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Posted by Night Shift on 04-23-2012 06:29 AM:

This Question Was Asked (UKC HELP)

Dogs A,B,C and D are declared treed dog D is not at tree when cast arrives is minused tree points. Dogs A,B and C are handled start shinning tree dog D comes in to tree coon is seen is dog D minused strike or is it considered it was drawn into tree.


Posted by l.lyle on 04-23-2012 06:35 AM:

Re: This Question Was Asked (UKC HELP)

quote:
Originally posted by Night Shift
Dogs A,B,C and D are declared treed dog D is not at tree when cast arrives is minused tree points. Dogs A,B and C are handled start shinning tree dog D comes in to tree coon is seen is dog D minused strike or is it considered it was drawn into tree.
Who cares? My dog D is a pup that don't tree much yet. When that coon jumps out my pup D would have been on it like stink. Who reallly cares other than yall?


Posted by k-9 on 04-23-2012 06:43 AM:

rule 5 b explains this very clearly. No dog to receive minus points for coming into tree after the judge arrives UNLESS THE COON IS SEEN AND DOGS TREEING ARE AWARDED PLUS POINTS.


Posted by l.lyle on 04-23-2012 06:45 AM:

For ya'll that want to think that there is a mean badassone on a cast . I bet there are a dozen more 4 dawgs treeing HIGH FIVING each other saying" We shall agree to agree", That's my Story and I'm Stickin To It. If Maussah looks at you cockeyed , just tree harder--- HIGH FIVE !!! Chop chop chop like somebody pulling down the throttle on a POP POP John Deere. LOL Crank it up!!!


Posted by l.lyle on 04-23-2012 07:07 AM:

Drawn in? I draw mine in by squalling , shooting or clapping my hands to imitate a 22 , then by stomping my foot to imitate a coon hitting the ground. AND I will say, Should I have a dog so smart as to Not ketch on to what I did , then he bee's too smart for me to train and Bees gone from hyar. Let him play with the other lying dogs in that cast for I am sure he has no more knowledge of 25 points than 125 points LOL
The main trouble to me as a trainer but which might blow your frock up as a buyer is WHHOOOIE !!! Boogety Boogety that dog sho can Yap treed. LOL Said by the Buyer; --not by me, the seller. Of course , Like I tell some ladies . "I like it for you to get excited. Excited is a good thing. We only got so much of it headed our way in our life's anyway. Anti Up is what I reckon if you want to play. Might even do some mo tradin. less you decide to denegrate me. LOL I stand aside and wonder if your sex will believe you any way , yapping about getting the short end and who can you trust? LOL


Posted by GA DAWG on 04-23-2012 11:30 AM:

Dangit!

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Posted by nccoonhunter197 on 04-23-2012 12:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by k-9
rule 5 b explains this very clearly. No dog to receive minus points for coming into tree after the judge arrives UNLESS THE COON IS SEEN AND DOGS TREEING ARE AWARDED PLUS POINTS.


Correct......dog D would get minuse for leaving tree abd minus strike if it came into tree after judge arrived but before tree was scored.

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Posted by nccoonhunter197 on 04-23-2012 12:15 PM:

What does being drawn into tree have to do with anything?

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Posted by Allen / UKC on 04-23-2012 02:10 PM:

Re: This Question Was Asked (UKC HELP)

quote:
Originally posted by Night Shift
Dogs A,B,C and D are declared treed dog D is not at tree when cast arrives is minused tree points. Dogs A,B and C are handled start shinning tree dog D comes in to tree coon is seen is dog D minused strike or is it considered it was drawn into tree.



Rule 5(b) applies to any and all dogs that come into tree after judge arrives. Your answer lies, very specifically, within that rule on how to score Dog D. Might be a good idea for you to personally read the rule to get your answer.


Posted by TBO kennels on 04-23-2012 02:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by l.lyle
Drawn in? I draw mine in by squalling , shooting or clapping my hands to imitate a 22 , then by stomping my foot to imitate a coon hitting the ground. AND I will say, Should I have a dog so smart as to Not ketch on to what I did , then he bee's too smart for me to train and Bees gone from hyar. Let him play with the other lying dogs in that cast for I am sure he has no more knowledge of 25 points than 125 points LOL
The main trouble to me as a trainer but which might blow your frock up as a buyer is WHHOOOIE !!! Boogety Boogety that dog sho can Yap treed. LOL Said by the Buyer; --not by me, the seller. Of course , Like I tell some ladies . "I like it for you to get excited. Excited is a good thing. We only got so much of it headed our way in our life's anyway. Anti Up is what I reckon if you want to play. Might even do some mo tradin. less you decide to denegrate me. LOL I stand aside and wonder if your sex will believe you any way , yapping about getting the short end and who can you trust? LOL



Does anyone else have any idea what the heck this guy is talking about? Hes got to be drunk or just crazy....

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Posted by riproarinkennel on 04-23-2012 02:26 PM:

RULES

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Posted by price griffin on 04-23-2012 02:32 PM:

Ive looked at other pages where he comes in and bashes on people for no reason. People like that is why I dont get on here that much and alot of the younger crowd is coming to the face book page. I know he wouldnt last two days on the face book page doing that and he would be gone!

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Posted by Bob Hennessey on 04-23-2012 03:17 PM:

i.lyle doesn't bash anybody. If you can't understand a little redneck humor I really wonder if you are really a coonhunter? I guess you YOUNGER CROWD will have to stay on face book and leave the UKC board to us OLD REDNECKS. Okay?

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Posted by blueticker on 04-23-2012 04:02 PM:

I am amazed at the folks that have participated in UKC night hunts for many years and still have issues comprehending rules over situations frequently encountered.

Had a situation where dog #1 was struck, then 2 & 3 struck and treed on a previously scored tree. Dog # 4 had never opened at this point. After leading off the tree and casting 2 & 3 toward dog 1 that was opending, dog 4 opened. These two hunters argued when dog 4 opened for a 75 strike points. They were ready to argue that he only got 25 points. Next situation, they were certain that just getting the card back on time wouldn't count. They knew the dog winning the cast needed to be there also.

Had a cast this week where dogs went back to a possible scored tree. I told them if the cast agreed they were on a scored tree that dogs wouldn't need to be declared treed to be handled. The judge was sure they needed to be declared treed and wouldn't allow it. No wounder there is so many problems on cast.

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Posted by Paints-n-cows on 04-24-2012 12:44 AM:

Blueticker,

I had a judge that wasn't going to let a handler turn his dog loose after a tree was scored and when the dog that was out on trail opened up. He demanded that the dog be lead away from the tree for one minute. And he got mad when we pointed out the rule 11.

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Posted by Maniac on 04-24-2012 01:10 AM:

hmmmmmm STEAK SUPPER.............

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Posted by ysudep2 on 04-24-2012 01:56 AM:

Ummm no?

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Correct......dog D would get minuse for leaving tree abd minus strike if it came into tree after judge arrived but before tree was scored.

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Posted by nccoonhunter197 on 04-24-2012 02:21 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ysudep2
Ummm no?


What would you do with dog D's strike points? It was minused tree points and is still holding strike points. It is on a closed tree when the judge arrives and a coon is seen.

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Posted by ysudep2 on 04-24-2012 02:37 AM:

You said before tree was scored. You can't minus him before you see the coon. After the coon was seen minus away.

quote:
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What would you do with dog D's strike points? It was minused tree points and is still holding strike points. It is on a closed tree when the judge arrives and a coon is seen.

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Posted by nccoonhunter197 on 04-24-2012 04:27 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by nccoonhunter197
Correct......dog D would get minuse for leaving tree abd minus strike if it came into tree after judge arrived but before tree was scored.



Ysudep2, if dog D gets there after tree is scored then he can't be minused. That is what I was trying to say. I reread it and it does sound weird. Sorry for the confusion.I also should have put and a coon seen.

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Posted by Raven Creek on 04-24-2012 05:07 AM:

Ukc says that tree is not considered scored until dogs are lead away from the tree. I think it is in the advisor somewhere


Posted by l.lyle on 04-24-2012 08:06 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by price griffin
Ive looked at other pages where he comes in and bashes on people for no reason. People like that is why I dont get on here that much and alot of the younger crowd is coming to the face book page. I know he wouldnt last two days on the face book page doing that and he would be gone!

Some how I don't believe it either. I have lasted two years on kiddy facebook. LOL I don't get on there much because of all them Friends BS . also too many girfrinds hang out there . Plus, the fact last week I got caught and ordered , stomped a foot at and said "BE GONE " from hyar, like my great grandaddy "used to" do , With Bumbs, Vagrants, Carpet Baggers and curdogs come around. Something about a pogog but ny hearing is not too good.LOL,That is what my Yankee girl did to me Saturday Mornin gone . and she had every right too. Exactly what is it I said? That had YOU reprimanding me?? Jumping in on your exclusive whisdom, post (17 I think so far) We'll end up ok, anyway. Cutting fool with each other. Lest you got an off the wall underlieing religion. LOL. I figured "North" carolina was Yankee land tillI was 6 and learnt geometry. LOL

I Wonder what pup will chase this rabbit? Will be one for sure. Non sensicle to a few. Can't make it much more simple minded and still of interest to those endowed with a brain to figure things out with.


Posted by ysudep2 on 04-24-2012 09:35 AM:

I gotcha now!

quote:
Originally posted by nccoonhunter197
Ysudep2, if dog D gets there after tree is scored then he can't be minused. That is what I was trying to say. I reread it and it does sound weird. Sorry for the confusion.I also should have put and a coon seen.

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Posted by Doug Adams on 04-25-2012 03:12 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by l.lyle
Some how I don't believe it either. I have lasted two years on kiddy facebook. LOL I don't get on there much because of all them Friends BS . also too many girfrinds hang out there . Plus, the fact last week I got caught and ordered , stomped a foot at and said "BE GONE " from hyar, like my great grandaddy "used to" do , With Bumbs, Vagrants, Carpet Baggers and curdogs come around. Something about a pogog but ny hearing is not too good.LOL,That is what my Yankee girl did to me Saturday Mornin gone . and she had every right too. Exactly what is it I said? That had YOU reprimanding me?? Jumping in on your exclusive whisdom, post (17 I think so far) We'll end up ok, anyway. Cutting fool with each other. Lest you got an off the wall underlieing religion. LOL. I figured "North" carolina was Yankee land tillI was 6 and learnt geometry. LOL



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