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Posted by Allen / UKC on 09-26-2011 05:09 PM:

World Championship Entry Listing

http://www.ukcdogs.com/WebSite.nsf/...9262011115058AM

Good luck to each of those hunting in this weekends hunting Beagle World Championship!

Posted by browntrout on 09-26-2011 08:05 PM:

did this for someone else.... figure I'd share with the board.

50 dogs from WV
25 dogs from NC
16 dogs from OH
14 dogs from VA
8 dogs from IN
5 dogs from MO
4 dogs from MI
4 dogs from KY
4 dogs from SC
3 dogs from TN
2 dogs from IA
1 dog from PA
1 dog from OK
1 dog from GA

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Posted by VICKY B on 09-26-2011 08:33 PM:

Wow a lot of states with minimal entries.

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Posted by jimmy leach on 09-26-2011 10:33 PM:

WOW

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Posted by Brian Collins on 09-26-2011 11:53 PM:

Vicky there is a lot of states with minimal or no entries. That is because over here in the northeast we have NO WQE. I think the closest one is a 6 hour drive. So you won't see any dogs from Maryland, New York, Delaware, and very few or any from eastern PA. It is very sad that UKC has limited there focus on WV and Ohio.

Posted by djvgny on 09-27-2011 12:40 AM:

Just wondering if PA, GA, and OK will be losing there WQE next year like we did due to low numbers at the World Hunt.

Posted by Jack Eddy on 09-27-2011 12:50 AM:

wqe

I see that Pa.,Ok.Ga, have one dog each going to the World hunt. That is that very reason that we lost our WQE at the Towanda BC,and also Unidilla in NYState lost theirs. I wonder will these clubs lose theirs. Probably not because they don't have some phony after them as we did us. I am very disappointed in the brass at UKC. This BS. Jack Eddy(Pres. of the Towanda BC)

Posted by mitch gould on 09-27-2011 01:39 AM:

lookin at the list its evident the economy is killing trials that ppl have to drive over 4-5 hrs to. makes me think maybe the zones wasnt such a bad idea

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Posted by Emmerson on 09-27-2011 03:11 AM:

Dont know bout the rest but dog from ok was in mo all year. Reg owner lives in ok . Eastern tennesee is 800 plus miles from mo thats a real pain . Itll end up 1000 bucks just to hunt . Thats the only reason theirs not a bunch from mo just tooooo far . Will be an interesting trip look fwd to good running and seeing great dogs .

Posted by nw mo beagler on 09-27-2011 04:41 AM:

Hey Chad - Right there with you on that thousand dollar bill and 800 miles. If your like me I am sure you will be bringing back some new blood for the kennel to stimulate the economy.lol Have a safe trip and we will see you there. Anthony

Posted by VICKY B on 09-27-2011 12:52 PM:

Economy and terrain. Lots of beaglers are a little older and like myself have some health issues thats why they went from coon dogs to beagles. Mountains dont make it easy to run for lines and handle dogs,people can't compete in those cases.
The entries show it.
I am not bashing any clubs, its just a fact. I understand wanting to move it around but you exclude so many people who normally supoort these big hunts.
I think its a shame The World Hunt, which should be one of the biggest hunts we hold has dwindled to this size, many other hunts now have larger entries. I wonder how many owners are entered, in other words how many people have more than one dog entered?
I attended the coon hound world last week, it was over flowing with people, spectators and dogs.. The economy is bad for them to.. Mayb we should take a look why they are so supported whats different and use those ideas to strengthen our beagle program
Just some ideas to think about, it seems like our beagle hunts and select sire programs are failing. The ARHA Grand Nationals are expecting 300 dogs this weekend and its not a world hunt. Lets figure out why and use it...

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Posted by akso235 on 09-27-2011 03:31 PM:

if you want to go bad enough people will find a way to pay for it. as far as moving it around, there are several people in the south that travel north for all the bigger hunts and regular hunts also. as far as getting around i have had two back surgerys and been out of work for a week now for my hip but all you have to do is see woody crowder going to these hunts and getting around with braces on his knees and walking with a cane and you relize you are blessed to be able to go hunt. yes there are mountains here but there is easy walking and the guys dont try to make it hard on anyone. i personally have spent 100 dollars in deisel fuel this week having paths bushhogged so you can score rabbits and i doubt you will have to walk over a hundred yards on my cast and run steady. the coonhunts are larger because of the money you can sell a coon hound for compared to a beagle. thanks for everyone that is supporting the hunt this year.

Posted by butcher boys on 09-27-2011 03:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by akso235
if you want to go bad enough people will find a way to pay for it. as far as moving it around, there are several people in the south that travel north for all the bigger hunts and regular hunts also. as far as getting around i have had two back surgerys and been out of work for a week now for my hip but all you have to do is see woody crowder going to these hunts and getting around with braces on his knees and walking with a cane and you relize you are blessed to be able to go hunt. yes there are mountains here but there is easy walking and the guys dont try to make it hard on anyone. i personally have spent 100 dollars in deisel fuel this week having paths bushhogged so you can score rabbits and i doubt you will have to walk over a hundred yards on my cast and run steady. the coonhunts are larger because of the money you can sell a coon hound for compared to a beagle. thanks for everyone that is supporting the hunt this year.

Well Put. I agree 100%

Andy

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Posted by browntrout on 09-27-2011 04:26 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by akso235
if you want to go bad enough people will find a way to pay for it. as far as moving it around, there are several people in the south that travel north for all the bigger hunts and regular hunts also. as far as getting around i have had two back surgerys and been out of work for a week now for my hip but all you have to do is see woody crowder going to these hunts and getting around with braces on his knees and walking with a cane and you relize you are blessed to be able to go hunt. yes there are mountains here but there is easy walking and the guys dont try to make it hard on anyone. i personally have spent 100 dollars in deisel fuel this week having paths bushhogged so you can score rabbits and i doubt you will have to walk over a hundred yards on my cast and run steady. the coonhunts are larger because of the money you can sell a coon hound for compared to a beagle. thanks for everyone that is supporting the hunt this year.

double amen.

it all comes down to convenience... and this hunt isn't convenient enough for folks to travel to - so they take the opportunity to lobby for a different venue that is more convenient for them.
distance certainly didn't keep a LOAD of folks from WV going to the World Hunt in 2009 (in Largrange, IN - an 8 hour trip).

as far as folks losing WQE's because of the winners not going to the world - it seems pretty valid to me. why have a WQE in a location if folks aren't going to participate in the world after winning?

Posted by Albert Fulton on 09-27-2011 04:31 PM:

Question for UKC. How many dogs qualified to go to World Hunt ?

Posted by mitch gould on 09-27-2011 04:32 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by VICKY B
Economy and terrain. Lots of beaglers are a little older and like myself have some health issues thats why they went from coon dogs to beagles. Mountains dont make it easy to run for lines and handle dogs,people can't compete in those cases.
The entries show it.
I am not bashing any clubs, its just a fact. I understand wanting to move it around but you exclude so many people who normally supoort these big hunts.
I think its a shame The World Hunt, which should be one of the biggest hunts we hold has dwindled to this size, many other hunts now have larger entries. I wonder how many owners are entered, in other words how many people have more than one dog entered?
I attended the coon hound world last week, it was over flowing with people, spectators and dogs.. The economy is bad for them to.. Mayb we should take a look why they are so supported whats different and use those ideas to strengthen our beagle program
Just some ideas to think about, it seems like our beagle hunts and select sire programs are failing. The ARHA Grand Nationals are expecting 300 dogs this weekend and its not a world hunt. Lets figure out why and use it...

i can see where u are coming from, but I dont think that the terrain turned a hundred qualified dogs owners away from the world hunt. I guess 1 solution is all NON hunting judges every round then u wouldnt have to run around. You would have to implement the zones again in order to get the world hunt itself under a hundred entires to find enough judges. UKC would have to pay the judges and you would prob need it doen in series just becasue prob not gona have 25 judges

U make a great point about the ARHA hunts ,huge numbers, of course that is a little decieving because one person may have entered 10 dogs BUT there is no doubt the numbers are impressive despite that.

Id like to see MO get world hunt next year, those ppl have faithfully supported UKC for 20 years and they have huge draws and tons of bunnies.

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Posted by browntrout on 09-27-2011 04:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mitch gould

U make a great point about the ARHA hunts ,huge numbers, of course that is a little decieving because one person may have entered 10 dogs BUT there is no doubt the numbers are impressive despite that.

the reason the ARHA numbers are so high is because all you have to do to qualify for their world hunt it to be a cast winner sometime thoughout the year... they don't do WQE's... win a cast, and you are in - simple as that. if the UKC "opened it up" like the ARHA, there would be more entries.

I think the WQE system eliminates a lot of the dogs that just ruin casts (we've all been out with at least one of these types of dogs) - I'd never want to see the UKC "open it up" - since that would be a direct result.

Posted by Mandi Schafer on 09-27-2011 05:12 PM:

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[i]Id like to see MO get world hunt next year, those ppl have faithfully supported UKC for 20 years and they have huge draws and tons of bunnies. [/B]

:O) I Double Agree on that!

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Posted by mitch gould on 09-27-2011 05:36 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by browntrout
the reason the ARHA numbers are so high is because all you have to do to qualify for their world hunt it to be a cast winner sometime thoughout the year... they don't do WQE's... win a cast, and you are in - simple as that. if the UKC "opened it up" like the ARHA, there would be more entries.

I think the WQE system eliminates a lot of the dogs that just ruin casts (we've all been out with at least one of these types of dogs) - I'd never want to see the UKC "open it up" - since that would be a direct result.

we are not talking about arha world, grand national ,little world etc...

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Posted by JLW on 09-27-2011 06:11 PM:

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[i]Id like to see MO get world hunt next year, those ppl have faithfully supported UKC for 20 years and they have huge draws and tons of bunnies. [/B]

Right on Mitch!

The clubs are turning out big numbers at the local hunts with huge scores, surley the big shots at UKC are taking notice right? I seen casts come in with a 1000+ pts in a August hunt this year! Need I say more

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Posted by ohlinger on 09-28-2011 05:36 AM:

See everybody there!!! It's gonna be a good time!!! I'm sure this club is ready for the big weekend. Thanks for hosting!!

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Posted by jimmy leach on 09-29-2011 01:53 AM:

Good Luck Everyone

I would like to wish everyone good luck and have a safe trip there and back hope you all have a great hunt . Someday i hope to go too a world hunt . Good luck everyone . Thanks Jimmy Leach

Posted by mt.man77 on 09-29-2011 02:18 AM:

There was 1 wqe in Illinois none of the peop that came to the hunt had plans of goin to world hunt except for me and another guy and we were in the same cast. I wasnt able to hit many trials this year but if i had a dog qualified id be there.

Posted by nw mo beagler on 09-30-2011 12:35 AM:

World Hunt day before

Went out and run this morning and it was tough. JMO-If runnin is the same tomorrow (Friday) morning it will be a good day for a track dog. It is supposed to be 41 in the morning with a high of 60 on Friday morning. Thanks Elwood for the 4 wheelin adventure and letting us join you to run! My truck is clean again.lol Anthony

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