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Posted by hillbilly 81 on 05-31-2011 01:22 PM:

Anyone have any tips on starting a pup in the summer?

Kill season is out so I cant knock a coon out to him. I just wandered if any body had any tips that may be helpful. Any input will be appreciated. Thks

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Posted by Kris Cisna on 05-31-2011 03:54 PM:

I drug roadkill coons and hung them. Get a cheap cap gun and "shoot" it out.

Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 05-31-2011 03:58 PM:

Re: Anyone have any tips on starting a pup in the summer?

quote:
Originally posted by hillbilly 81
Kill season is out so I cant knock a coon out to him. I just wandered if any body had any tips that may be helpful. Any input will be appreciated. Thks

Get on water and get in the crop fields along fence rows are the best place.

Posted by Christy on 05-31-2011 05:28 PM:

ALOT OF NITE HUNTS/FIELD TRIALS IN THE SUMMER AS WELL.

ALSO A GREAT TIME TO LET A YOUNG DOG SEE IT'S FIRST LIVE COON, AND LET IT WATCH N LEARN. LOL.

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Posted by on 05-31-2011 05:52 PM:

Teach him to load, lead, come when you call and shoot a gun around him. Take him for walks in the woods and Wait for fall. Summer is hard on a dog I wouldn't be expecting him to learn a lot when he is about to have a heat stroke. JMO

Posted by hillbilly 81 on 05-31-2011 06:23 PM:

thks for all the input

Posted by Houndhuntin on 05-31-2011 07:33 PM:

Hunt the heck out em, he will get use to the heat. Find a way to knock one or two out. Climb if you have to, or find some young buck that will !!

Posted by Virgil on 05-31-2011 07:39 PM:

Couple boxes of 22 CB's does the trick for me

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Posted by hopm on 05-31-2011 07:48 PM:

Ahhhh.....are we encouraging violation of the law on the www? That'll do alot to gain the respect of antis and all of the non hunting community.

Posted by Enigma on 05-31-2011 08:13 PM:

Encouraging the violation of laws? now who would do that?

Posted by CreekBottomHunt on 05-31-2011 08:16 PM:

couple boxes will take care of the antis also, lol. this is just a joke to go along with the above post

Posted by Ray&Luie on 05-31-2011 08:32 PM:

Tabo

quote:
Originally posted by Houndhuntin
Hunt the heck out em, he will get use to the heat. Find a way to knock one or two out. Climb if you have to, or find some young buck that will !!

Now you know tree climbins tabo on this board, it messes with a dogs head makes him wana hunt the track instead of Tree

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Posted by Ray&Luie on 05-31-2011 08:34 PM:

Respect

quote:
Originally posted by hopm
Ahhhh.....are we encouraging violation of the law on the www? That'll do alot to gain the respect of antis and all of the non hunting community.

What respect ?

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Posted by cripple creek on 05-31-2011 10:18 PM:

joey is on the right track

I use this time to do like he said and take them to hunts and tie them out so they get used to all th excitement and dog barking etc if you plan on showing it or hunting in hunts. but loading, taking walks in the woods early in morn or even at night with a light. You can flat burn them out if they are too young.
Fall will be here soon enough. I also check the weather and see if the weather changes and gets cool before rain and trap one and turn loose caged coons and let them tree them.
Patience is the key during the summer.

leading thru the woods, loading and all the other stuff like coming too you etc. I take them for rides to the store in the front seat of the truck getting them used to me and riding.
When fall comes, there are no new surprises and they are ready to learn what you want them to do and aren't trying to learn 5 new things all at once.

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Posted by hootchandjaws on 05-31-2011 10:18 PM:

Wont the DNR gives tags out for the none kill season.?? all you have to do is get the land owners permission and that tag from the dnr and it is legal.

Posted by hillbilly 81 on 05-31-2011 10:20 PM:

good advice cripple creek. I have been hunting for 22 yrs but am always looking to learn something new!!!

Posted by hillbilly 81 on 05-31-2011 10:24 PM:

I have 2200 acres to hunt right here at my house and I have seen 3 game wardens here in my life... I could very easily knock a coon out to this pup but I wont do that . Thats why I have plenty of coon when everyone around me struggles. I just wanted different ideas on training with out killing a coon.

Posted by Majestic Tree H on 05-31-2011 10:30 PM:

Check for Fokes that need coon ran out of their Veggie Gardens !!

When the Sweet Corn starts comming in The Coon will be their !!

I have started some very young pups in very small backyard Gardens ..

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Posted by wildbill on 05-31-2011 11:16 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by hillbilly 81
I have 2200 acres to hunt right here at my house and I have seen 3 game wardens here in my life... I could very easily knock a coon out to this pup but I wont do that . Thats why I have plenty of coon when everyone around me struggles. I just wanted different ideas on training with out killing a coon.

if you still have some coon in the freezer from hunting season

(game warden told me i could keep them in the freezer for however many yrs i wanted to as long as i got them in legal season)

flesh one out and salt cure it and get one of them small stirefoam boat floats about appr.8-10 " diam and sew the hide around the float so pup has something not real hard to chew on ,so as not to hurt its teeth and tie a rope onto it and use it as a drag and drop it out to the pup to chew on after it gets treed,,

that would be the legal way to use a coon in the summer..(stuffed hide)
for no more than what they are worth,you could stuff one full of plastic packing peanuts ,sew it up tight and stuff that one inside another hide and sew it shut and would last awhile if you didnt get a pup with razer sharp teeth to cutting it open...

back in the day the old farmers used to catch and use woodchucks to train pups with in the summer,
they said after a good kill season on coon ,the pups would forget about the woodchucks since most would be chased into the ground
and after they figured out they wouldnt get to chew on them when it went into the ground ,
they would tree only what they knew they would get to chew on..

but with they way better than half of pups are bred these days ,they might not be smart enought to figure that out anymore..

good luck..

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Posted by David Stevensni on 05-31-2011 11:51 PM:

my pup is 10 months old, wiil run and tree coon and has split treed. the only coon she ever saw was two coon tails at 4 months old and one she pulled out the trunk of my car in kill season. just keep the hunts short in the hot weather and make it fun for the pup. to many coon knocked down to her/him wont help. they do it because its bred in them. the killing is for the owners not the dog

Posted by greg stull on 06-01-2011 12:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Joey
Teach him to load, lead, come when you call and shoot a gun around him. Take him for walks in the woods and Wait for fall. Summer is hard on a dog I wouldn't be expecting him to learn a lot when he is about to have a heat stroke. JMO

THIS IS A GOOD ANSWER BUT IN MISSISSIPPI YOU CAN SHOOT THEM IN ONE MONTH JULY 1. I WOULD NEVER START ONE IN THE SUMMER THOUGH JMO.

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Posted by wibeagle8813 on 06-01-2011 01:19 AM:

if you do go out during the summer only make 1 or 2 trees. keep it short and easy also it helps hunting early morning with dew on the ground

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Posted by l.lyle on 06-01-2011 02:48 AM:

I got home from Memorial Holiday and found one coon had eaten two rows of sweetcorn. and opened and knocked down what it didn't eat. I don't start dogs in summer cause I got better things to do but I got a started dog in the truck right now waiting on midnight and if he not there I'll try again at daybreak. I got plenty of corn coming on but that was my early corn I was going to take to a family reunion this weekend. That's pretty sorry for a coonhunter to let a coon eat his corn up. I don't hunt around here because in season the dogs would be off this place before I could strap on my light. The dog pen is about a quarter mile from the garden at the other end of the place.

Posted by wildbill on 06-01-2011 03:03 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by techno
I drug roadkill coons and hung them. Get a cheap cap gun and "shoot" it out.

i did that once but thought about it after i did it,,

i wondered if that roadkill was sick with something why it got run over or just overpopulated looking for food or both..

i didnt do it again..

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