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Posted by Casey Bigelow on 08-27-2003 05:04 PM:

over curled tail Question

In the past, I have had 3 dogs (1 plott and two blues -all unrelated) that had an over active tail curve. Instead of being saber-like, they were more curled, to the point where they touched their back and curled to the side. All three were" PR" dogs with supposedly great blood (not going to get into specifics). Does anyone know what causes this?? I figure it is probably genetic- I would never breed a dog like this and am not much of a show person anyway. If the dog didn't make a great meat dog- cull time. Anyone else had this problem?

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Posted by lauraroeder on 08-27-2003 05:13 PM:

hereditary...

in all coonhound breeds. just one of them things you might not care for. rofl!

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Posted by John Carroll on 08-27-2003 05:22 PM:

It's sure one of the things I don't care for.

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Posted by on 08-27-2003 05:22 PM:

I had a blue dog.....

that had that curled tail.....I have had a few old timers tell me that if the tail is curled like a 'teacup' handle, they will end up bein mean....lol, dont know the validity of this claim, but his tail curled totally around to his back, and to the side, as yall were sayin....I dont know what causes this, some heriditary trait from somewhere....

Posted by pepper on 08-27-2003 05:45 PM:

Re: I had a blue dog.....

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Originally posted by Blue Style
that had that curled tail.....I have had a few old timers tell me that if the tail is curled like a 'teacup' handle, they will end up bein mean....lol, dont know the validity of this claim, but his tail curled totally around to his back, and to the side, as yall were sayin....I dont know what causes this, some heriditary trait from somewhere....

Perhaps the dog would get all mean cause the other dogs would tease him about his Curved Tail...LOL .....

Hey didn't Clinton have that very same problem with his tail .....No Wait that wasn't his tail... OHHH Never Mind !!! LOL { ;

Posted by Grubbs on 08-27-2003 06:42 PM:

Biggest problem is; Sometimes the tail is curled so tight that back feet are raised up and dog has no traction.

Posted by Doug Robinson on 08-27-2003 07:41 PM:

Curled Tail

Casey,
I agree with Laura, it is genetic. Don't see that it hurts anything other than whether you mind it or not. I believe in the breed standards it is considered a fault if benching dog.

I've yet to see a dog that doesn't have some faults, if the dog performs the way you like who cares. I've known people to give away good dogs because they don't like their looks, you are the one feeding it so it's up to you. Good luck!

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Posted by Whistle Pig on 08-27-2003 07:42 PM:

Curled tails

Do you mean curled tails like this i love them i have two sisters with curled tails but their not litter mates.

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Posted by blueticker on 08-27-2003 08:28 PM:

curled tail

Your buddy pulls up just before dark ready for a hunt. He starts telling you about his new power house tree dog he just purchased. Your buddy jumps the dog out of the truck, the dogs' tail is twisted straight over his back (almost deformed it's so tight), I would say that most folks wouldn't take their 10 month old pup who has just started treeing good with the dog.

I don't like a razor tailed, dirt slinging hound. One night on a hunt I drew three males that had the high tail diesease. After the three finished expressing their manhood, the gravel, dirt, leaves and grass appeared to have been tilled with a Kubota. Man it sure was fun to strike and tree my hound while this was going on.

The ol hound that lies around all day with his eyelids toughing each other and his tail drooped down between his legs will be my pick.

Posted by Jim Harris on 08-27-2003 08:31 PM:

Re: curled tail

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The ol hound that lies around all day with his eyelids toughing each other and his tail drooped down between his legs will be my pick.

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Dang blueticker, you just described my ol' hounds to a "T". That'd be my pick too.

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Posted by Rob Ellett on 08-29-2003 11:51 PM:

Casey that curly tail wouldnt happen to be on a

blue dog wold it? If so it doesnt happen to have Lock-Tite in it's ped does it?
I have seen this curley tail thing before,one of them it looked like a kot on it's back it was so twisted,LOL.
Did you have any problems getting rid of the Hornet dogs? Have you hunted that gyp yet?

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Posted by Redtick on 08-30-2003 12:29 AM:

Curled Tails

It is a genetic problem that may come from not having an all hound backround (regardless of what the pedigree says). But it is a minor flaw. I recently had a very good coonhound female I called Curly for 8 years. I probably looked at 1000 coon she treed. She was an excellent reproducer. I sure didn't like the curled tail and she did put in in some of her pups, but I loved the way she treed coon and reproduced and would take another one like her anytime I can get one. By the way, she has produced several Bench Champions and Grand Bench Champions and there is a bear dog out of her that is the best looking English I ever saw, bar none. Ask the Lemmones in Oklahoma about their Twist dog out of Curly, he is just 1 of the Grand Bench Champions out of her. And, more important, she reproduced coon and bear dogs!

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Posted by Casey Bigelow on 08-30-2003 12:36 AM:

no, no lockite. yeah i been hunting the momma dog for the last week. i AM VERY IMPRESSED she has no nonsense about her. hard tree dog. she'll be 2 next month i think. sold all i amgonna sell- gonna keep the rest. sorry for the poor typing, i just cut about 1/2 inch off my thumb, leaving now to get it sewed up ( wife works for surgeons office and is making calls-only reason i'm on computer)

Posted by blacksheep on 08-30-2003 12:46 AM:

overcurled tail.................. FOXHOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lets use a little common sense here and look at some pictures folks, huh?????

Posted by stylish on 08-30-2003 01:15 AM:

curl tail

crowding billy dogs have this trait and it didn,t keep them from making excellent coonhounds . track & treedog deluxe!its what ever you can stand

Posted by Justin Smith on 08-30-2003 01:46 AM:

Blacksheep is right , it comes from foxhound blood whether honestly or not.

Posted by perry on 08-30-2003 01:53 AM:

could it be cur blood? oh my!

Posted by Justin Smith on 08-30-2003 02:23 AM:

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Originally posted by perry
could it be cur blood? oh my!

Only if the curl tail hound in question won't go hunting and can't smell his own butt ....then it might be cur blood.

Posted by Whistle Pig on 08-30-2003 05:23 PM:

Re: Curled tails

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Originally posted by Whistle Pig

Do you mean curled tails like this i love them i have two sisters with curled tails but their not litter mates.

Better get you some cur blood i like it i thought all dogs came from fox stock except plotts

Posted by vrichard on 09-01-2003 06:58 PM:

over curl tail(screw-tail)

screw tail is a hereditary trait found in many dogs. I had a black and tan that had a tail that would almost make a complete circle when he "strutted" it is an undesireable trait for showing dogs but don't hurt the performance any. My dog was out of a litter of 10 I believe and was the only one with a screw tail. If you breed a dog with a screw tail all the pups may have it, or one , two, or none may have it. You just can't tell. My dog was out of two straight tailed dogs.

Posted by Bruce Ordway on 09-01-2003 07:18 PM:

>FOXHOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<
I think if you go back far enough in the pedigree, they're all foxhounds anyway aren't they?

Anyway my friend had an old male with a curved over tail that died several years ago. (He wasn't mean.) He had a female out of him, and she just a had a 1 puppy litter. It's a 5 week old male with a curved over tail, just like grandpa. He's really excited about this pup.

I still like a nice sabre tail.

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Posted by Whistle Pig on 09-02-2003 08:37 PM:

Cropped all the wool off

Bruce i'm with you some guy's will never learn if it's a coon dog i don't care if it's tail has been cropped off like they do wool on a sheep.

Posted by John Nesmith on 09-04-2003 01:37 AM:

hahahaha

Seriously, I like my dogs like I like my woman, with a good tight curled tail! lol lol lol ouch my wife just hit me!

Posted by Whistle Pig on 09-04-2003 02:15 AM:

i say women

John you better be quiet or you want be able to hunt lol.

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