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Posted by Lawsreddog on 10-28-2016 07:08 PM:

Nitech Smith's red rowdy

Does anyone know of the hound, or can tell me something about him!!!

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Posted by oklared on 10-29-2016 06:03 PM:

Re: Nitech Smith's red rowdy

quote:
Originally posted by Lawsreddog
Does anyone know of the hound, or can tell me something about him!!!

CONTACT HARROLD HOFFMIESTER

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Posted by Lawsreddog on 10-29-2016 06:06 PM:

Harold

do you have contact info for Harold

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Posted by oklared on 10-30-2016 12:12 AM:

Re: Harold

quote:
Originally posted by Lawsreddog
do you have contact info for Harold

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Posted by Blacklabel on 10-30-2016 03:18 PM:

Harold is a walking book of knowledge and he usually don't beat around the bush

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 10-30-2016 07:55 PM:

Bomber's mother was out of Rowdy which makes him the great granddaddy of T-Top Raven and puts him in all of hers and Bomber's Red Wire's offspring. Mark Marshall is the Rowdy expert.

Posted by Lawsreddog on 10-31-2016 07:19 PM:

Rowdy

Richard, there are several Rowdy's! The one your talking about is hoffmiester bred, Harold and I spoke of him as well, the one i have in my pedigree is TChopper bred..

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Posted by RedScorpion on 10-31-2016 08:18 PM:

I always thought Smith's Red Rowdy was out of Fudge's Bone Chopper and Looper's Red Tuffie. Bone Chopper was out of the famous Ramblin Red Ace x Ramblin Red Kate cross. Tuffie was out of Huntin Hollow Major and Fearless Fly.

Sounds like you are talking about a different one.

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Posted by Lawsreddog on 10-31-2016 09:07 PM:

Redscorpian

i checked my papers and you are right, maybe I should have asked about sons of Ramblin ace cuz my female is loaded with Ace. how about Ramblin buck, grnitech smiths Cohay creek rambo, grnitech krafts Ramblin daniel, merchants red buck. Nitech huntin hollow wheeler.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 10-31-2016 10:37 PM:

Same Rowdy, aren't Bomber and Rusty actually Ace bred? And isn't Ace actually Timber Chopper bred? Maybe you would be better off talking to Mr Rob Farr, Terry Hayes or Danny Barrett.

......................Go Man Sam
.........Rusty Red
........................Mahogany Sweet Lulu
Bomber
.....................Smith's Red Rowdy
..........Hoffmeister's Lil Sis
......................Hoffmeister's Red Brandy

Posted by Lawsreddog on 10-31-2016 10:45 PM:

Richard

I dont like saying this but your right

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Posted by oklared on 11-01-2016 01:08 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Same Rowdy, aren't Bomber and Rusty actually Ace bred? And isn't Ace actually Timber Chopper bred? Maybe you would be better off talking to Mr Rob Farr, Terry Hayes or Danny Barrett.

......................Go Man Sam
.........Rusty Red
........................Mahogany Sweet Lulu
Bomber
.....................Smith's Red Rowdy
..........Hoffmeister's Lil Sis
...................
...Hoffmeister's Red Brandy

YOU MAY WANT TO ALSO TALK TO LARRY TURPIN

Posted by oklared on 11-01-2016 01:11 AM:

SMITHS RED ROWDY I BELIEVE WAS A REPLACEMENT DOG FOR HAROLD AFTER HIS KENNEL BURT AND SOME GOOD DOG WAS LOST IN FIRE

Posted by Danny McCleskey on 11-01-2016 01:14 AM:

..............................NiteCh Bakers Rip
....................GrNiteCh Hayes Ramblin Red Ace
..............................Maddoxs Daisy Mae
..........NiteCh Fudges Bone Chopper
..............................NiteCh Ch Hayes Ramblin Red Buck
....................GrCh Hayes Ramblin Red Kate
..............................Pecks Red Babe
NiteCh Ch Smiths Red Rowdy
..............................NiteCh Ch Timber Blazing Rowdy
....................NiteCh GrCh Huntin Hollow Major
..............................McDonalds Red Copper
..........Loopers Red Tuffie
..............................NiteCh Millers Valley Wood Pecker
....................Loftis Fearless Fly
..............................Loftis Red Julia

Harold Hoffmeister bought Rowdy from Dan Knight. Dan Knight bought Rowdy from Eather Smith & Travis Thomas. Rowdy had a lot of go in him. Harolds kennel burned and Rowdy died from burn injuries.

Harold had bred his GrNiteCh Hoffmeisters Red Brandy to Rowdy once when Eather Smith owned him and twice while Dan Knight owned him and once while he owned him. After Rowdy died Harold bred Brandy to GrNiteCh Machine Gun Jack who was a son of Rowdy.

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Posted by mmarshall on 11-01-2016 03:55 AM:

Rowdy had a lot of go i was told he changed hands a lot because he would go to deep
At one time every dog on the reproducers list but one or two went back to rowdy most of them showed his daughters
The best two red dogs I ever seen was off off btk and his brother raddilin kid and rowdy daughters cookie and tonto
Robbie Turk collected tonto and we was going to use some on moonlight Kate but it was no good tonto and Kate was bred very similar
Rowdy was a reproducer of reproducers exspecially females

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Posted by Lawsreddog on 11-01-2016 11:18 AM:

History

I am amazed at the responses I have gotten off this hound!!! Rowdy is in my 6 and 7 th gen several times thanks for all the answers!! I also talked with Tim Figg last night to get a little more info on my female Reba, he said she is very heavy Ace bred. I bred her to Spencer Smith's grnitech grch Doser last year, and trying to cross on him again, getting great feedback on pups! Thanks again for all the info!! And Richard I hate it when I have to admit your right!!! lol

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 11-01-2016 02:44 PM:

Oh my goodness, Machine Gun Jack was directly out of Rowdy?

I was just repeating what Mr Marshall told me a long time ago. He is the expert on breeding these dogs.
"Reproducer of reproducers", he and I had that discussion a long time ago. Rusty Reds top reproducing (my opinion) son, Bomber was out of a Rowdy daughter. You have to look for sons and daughters of a reproducer of reproducers if you want to continue a "line". One hit wonders won't work.
That is one of the reasons that I liked Rabble Rouser. He was a reproducer of reproducers. So were Rusty Red and Bomber. Rusty Red and a Rowdy daughter produced Bomber. Bomber and a Rusty Red X Chief daughter produced Bell. Bomber X Bell produced Rabble. So Rabble was "predetermined" to be a reproducer, somebody did their homework.

Posted by oklared on 11-01-2016 03:32 PM:

SORRY I GOT MIXED UP , IT WAS ROWDY THAT WAS LOST, BOMBER (MY OPINION ) PRODUCED VERY GOOD FEMALES,

AND LARRY TURPIN MADE THE CROSS THAT PRODUCED HOFFMIESTER RUSTY

Posted by Richard Lambert on 11-02-2016 03:17 PM:

So, Mr Hoffmeister started his kennel with several good "foundation" females and then bought a couple of stud dogs?

Posted by Richard Lambert on 11-02-2016 03:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by oklared
.......SORRY I GOT MIXED UP...

I stay mixed up. Occasionaly I get something right.

Posted by oklared on 11-02-2016 04:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
So, Mr Hoffmeister started his kennel with several good "foundation" females and then bought a couple of stud dogs?

HE AND DAN KNIGHT WAS IN KAHOOTS I THINK

Posted by OLD TIMER on 11-02-2016 09:12 PM:

How many where in----

Rusty Reds litter???

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Posted by oklared on 11-03-2016 02:11 AM:

Re: How many where in----

quote:
Originally posted by OLD TIMER
Rusty Reds litter???

YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK LARRY TURPIN HE MADE THAT CROSS.

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