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Posted by Z Davis on 01-08-2013 12:55 AM:

Timothy's Deer Break!

Just wondering if this stuff works cuase I would like to get pups off deer without doing to much damage to them don't like the fact of shocking even though I have shocked my pups I don't wanna burn them up with the E- Collar. Has anyone ever used the deer break?


Posted by Cory Highfill on 01-08-2013 02:36 AM:

Nope, gimmick.

If it was a miracle cure, everyone would be using it.


Posted by POTOMAC on 01-08-2013 02:40 AM:

Jerry morehousse in defiance Ohio will break them in 2 hours for 15$ a break and will not schlock them and it does work!!!!


Posted by O. Shelby on 01-08-2013 04:03 AM:

I've had good luck with it. I've used deer and squirrel break. Just get a scent pad put it on dogs collar and soak it every day. Just follow the instructions and USE THE WHOLE BOTTLE. I kept it on mine while they were in the pen. While I was hunting. 24/7. I'm not saying it is Miracle but it does work on alot of dogs if used right. Plus it doesn't cost much so if it dnt work your not out much. Just don't ignore the instructions or use half of it and them say it didn't work


Posted by JUGHEAD11675 on 01-08-2013 12:15 PM:

No buy a shock collar it works great jmp

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Posted by Z Davis on 01-08-2013 12:26 PM:

Buy an shock collar

I got one but I don't wanna scare my pups cuase they get on more deer than coon and I don't wanna scare em before I get them one some more coons.


Posted by shawnfitzgerald on 01-08-2013 02:22 PM:

Two of my friends took two young dogs to Jerry to break broke one but set her back didnt break the other but messed it up bad as well. It has worked I don't know what he does but some pups can't take it


Posted by Ashley Pratt on 01-08-2013 02:36 PM:

if ya can't break em you're really not out much anyway I'd just shock em but make **** sure they're on a deer when you do.


Posted by JiM on 01-08-2013 02:37 PM:

Re: Buy an shock collar

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Originally posted by Z Davis
I got one but I don't wanna scare my pups cuase they get on more deer than coon and I don't wanna scare em before I get them one some more coons.


I'm not sure how to say this without being offensive so I'll just toss it out there.
The deer are the least of your problem. You are afraid to train. You sure aren't alone on that. A good number of pups go by the wayside because their owner were too concerned about ruining them or scaring them. Every good trainer made some mistakes along the way and truth be known, we prolly ruin a few before we make a few.
Next time they run a deer, screw'em into tha ground. And bust'em every time they do it. If they can't take training, they are wasting your time.

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Posted by darwin barber on 01-08-2013 03:13 PM:

drive around till u see deer turn dog lose soon as they make a sound,fire them up,usually about the second time, that prob. is done,,and dont say a word make them thank that deer just kicked his butt! but i let a pup be a pup,if they hav trouble runnning a hot deer track they sure dont need to run back in foward on a bad coon track,

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Posted by kayapellijed390 on 01-08-2013 03:35 PM:

You will accomplish more by lightly shocking a pup when they are in the presence of deer scent then you will for frying them after they decide to smoke one across the section. For example, I start a lot of young dogs by roading them along shelter belts, I have lightly shocked pups when the come across a roadkilled deer and you can see them start winding it. I have had deer cross the road way out in front of the pup and I just keep driving and roading them along whenI see (by their body language) that they smell the deer I lightly tap them. Another example, in the summer a buddy and hunt with a little flat bed toyota truck instead of messing with strapping a dog bix down we just chain the dogs to the headache rack if we are hunting close by. If we drive past a deer in the ditch or one crosses the road in front of the truck the puos get a light shock. It doesn't take very long and they avoid deer scent like the plague. When it reaches the point where if you free cast a pup and the first track they hit is a deer and they come back to you with their tail between there legs, they are pretty much broke off of deer. And don't worry about that coming back stuff a few weeks of hard coon hunting and crossing deer scent while trailing coon and they will just run right across that deer trail and look for a coon. In my opinion you will accomplish ten times more by punishing (lightly) a pup when he is thinking about doing wrong than you will by frying one when they have their adreneline pumping and they are smoking speed beef across the section.

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Posted by JUGHEAD11675 on 01-08-2013 04:07 PM:

Amen I agree don't shock the pi$$ out of just a little an make them think the deer done it jmo

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Posted by slobbermouth21 on 01-08-2013 04:54 PM:

I've never really broke dogs off deer I just get them to were I know they will runand tree a coon by themselves and they usely end up after some hard hunting breaking themselves around two years old and start fallen treed geuss they get tired of the fast game and now want to run and tree coons I messed a good hound dog up about seven or eight years ago with a e collar because it was one of these chop mouth track dogs so in my mind he was running deer because I was always used to a dog bawlen on coon bawl/chop on trash took about three months of Layen him up and completely starten the training over agien to get him to treeing coons.

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Posted by darwin barber on 01-09-2013 03:52 PM:

lol turn them lose on deer and fire them up! it works on armadillas to!

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Posted by vernonsdream on 01-09-2013 04:11 PM:

the whole point is to scare the hair off them when they run a deer. So not sure why youre worried about that. I finally got sick of my dog running a deer every once in a while and now she thinks she could die if he ran one again. Thats fine by me


Posted by darwin barber on 01-10-2013 02:51 PM:

yup just thank when their running off game they could be running coon,but i do thank the dogs now are easier to break than they was twenty years ago,

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Posted by max destruction on 01-10-2013 09:41 PM:

It works,but like anything some things will work with some dogs something's won't!

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Posted by jculler8 on 01-10-2013 10:41 PM:

If you spend time with your pups and young dogs you are training on a DAILY basis, doing all of the little things, you will have them broke before they even know how to run a deer and you won't have to bother with any e collars or any other gimmicks. Jmo, I have found this out on my own.

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Posted by walkerdog1 on 01-10-2013 11:06 PM:

Re: Re: Buy an shock collar

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
I'm not sure how to say this without being offensive so I'll just toss it out there.
The deer are the least of your problem. You are afraid to train. You sure aren't alone on that. A good number of pups go by the wayside because their owner were too concerned about ruining them or scaring them. Every good trainer made some mistakes along the way and truth be known, we prolly ruin a few before we make a few.
Next time they run a deer, screw'em into tha ground. And bust'em every time they do it. If they can't take training, they are wasting your time.

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Posted by Bobby Reynolds on 01-10-2013 11:08 PM:

Re: Re: Buy an shock collar

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
I'm not sure how to say this without being offensive so I'll just toss it out there.
The deer are the least of your problem. You are afraid to train. You sure aren't alone on that. A good number of pups go by the wayside because their owner were too concerned about ruining them or scaring them. Every good trainer made some mistakes along the way and truth be known, we prolly ruin a few before we make a few.
Next time they run a deer, screw'em into tha ground. And bust'em every time they do it. If they can't take training, they are wasting your time.



Took the words right out of my mouth Jim. If you use the shock collar properly, you won't scare them as bad as you might think.


Posted by EFranks on 01-11-2013 12:46 AM:

Deer

The way I see it.... If they're pups, a deer is only gonna teach them how to run a track.... You have plenty of time to break them only after you have praised them for gettin after mr coon


Posted by hillbilly56 on 01-11-2013 03:09 AM:

Re: Buy an shock collar

quote:
Originally posted by Z Davis
I got one but I don't wanna scare my pups cuase they get on more deer than coon and I don't wanna scare em before I get them one some more coons.
if you use it right your not going to mess your pups up how old is your pups and do they know what a coon is ive broke alot of young dogs off trash with a shock collar never mess them up jmo


Posted by hi-po hounds on 01-11-2013 03:13 AM:

deer breaking

back before e collar we built a stand for a 55 gal drum with a crank on it. toss in dog an rag with scent on it roll bbl. no stand, push down hill. dont know about deer, dog hated barrel! this one worked for me, get billey goat pour on deer scent fasten to dog with double coulper, about 2 weeks in pen. works! do not shock dog thinking he ran deer. know for sure

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