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Posted by l.lyle on 09-30-2011 01:58 AM:

coon / deer ratio

On a big tract like two sections or 1,000 acres with good woods and streams and crops what do you think the ratio of coons to deer would be? I'm inclined to think maybe two coons to one deer. The deer hunters around here think there are ten times more coons because of what they see at feeders. I only kill about 120 coons a year where I hunt and I'm sure there are plenty left but those deer hunters kill about 120 deer off the same place. So 1:1 might be more accurate. What do you think?


Posted by l.lyle on 09-30-2011 03:39 AM:

Re: coon / deer ratio

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Originally posted by l.lyle
On a big tract like two sections or 1,000 acres with good woods and streams and crops what do you think the ratio of coons to deer would be? I'm inclined to think maybe two coons to one deer. The deer hunters around here think there are ten times more coons because of what they see at feeders. I only kill about 120 coons a year where I hunt and I'm sure there are plenty left but those deer hunters kill about 120 deer off the same place. So 1:1 might be more accurate. What do you think?


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Posted by Eric D. Doyle on 09-30-2011 03:52 AM:

Maybe 3:1 doubt it....has there every been a deer population count done? Doubtful but I believe they would be about even.

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Posted by Bob Hennessey on 09-30-2011 04:12 AM:

I don't really know, but last winter there was around 100 acres of harvested corn ground around my place and I counted 82 deer feeding during the day time. I know for a fact there aren't 82 coon in 1000 acres around me. How do I know because nobody kills every deer they see around here but every Tom,Dick, and Harry kills every coon they see plus a lot of them use poison for those they don't see. DNR will hunt you down if you kill a deer but look the other way on coon. It's a wonder we have as many coon as we do.

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Posted by GA DAWG on 09-30-2011 07:10 AM:

Prolly 30 deer to one coon round here. All I know in a week as of today. I had 400 game cam pics. 4 coon 2 bobcats and rest was deer. Sucks!

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Posted by l.lyle on 09-30-2011 07:36 AM:

That's what I don't get. See, good biomass translates to meat Per acre . A one hundred pound deer equals 10 ten pound coons around here but probably only 5 twenty pound big coons up ya'lls way. So deer are more efficient if I was a cattle farmer than the predators , if you can consider a coon in the predator class. Anyway , Beats me. But bottom line is I would think off the top of my head if I got seven deer I can see every night on my little 70 acres which I can only see about 10 acres of pasture in. Then it ought to be 700 pounds of coons or 70 coons back in the woods . Which ain't nowhere close. There might be a mamma and a few kits at the start of the season and I don't even hunt here cause the dogs would get gone, and by March , I am lucky to see a track. There just might be more numbers of deer dis regardeing the weight.


Posted by Bluedogman on 09-30-2011 01:13 PM:

I don't know the numbers but I would say deer outnumber coon by a wide margin here in our area.

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Posted by ahinsch on 09-30-2011 01:29 PM:

I've hunted some trashy pups that at times it seemed 1000:1 deer to coon!


Posted by K. Singletary on 09-30-2011 01:30 PM:

I have 2 game cameras set up over two corn piles in one of the best coon hunting sections on our club. One camera consistently has 7 different deer and 4 different coons the other has 15 different deer and 3 coons. This is in about a 75 acre section. I delete most of the pictures but here are a few I kept.



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Posted by Virgil on 09-30-2011 01:31 PM:

Fish and Wildlife claim there are around 6 deer per acre in the county I live. I would imagine there are more coon than that but not many more.

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Posted by Bluedogman on 09-30-2011 01:34 PM:

6 coon per acre? Sounds pretty thick to me.

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Posted by Virgil on 09-30-2011 01:51 PM:

quote:
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6 coon per acre? Sounds pretty thick to me.


That is their estimate. I am basing my figure on the fact that there seems to be more coon than deer. Their number could be way off.

All I know is you are doing good around here if you can average 1 coon a night for the year. Trust me, it's nothing like hunting Ohio or Michigan.

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Posted by GA DAWG on 09-30-2011 05:05 PM:

Id crap my pants if I had 6 coon per ac. Dang!

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Posted by l.lyle on 09-30-2011 05:26 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by K. Singletary
I have 2 game cameras set up over two corn piles in one of the best coon hunting sections on our club. One camera consistently has 7 different deer and 4 different coons the other has 15 different deer and 3 coons. This is in about a 75 acre section. I delete most of the pictures but here are a few I kept.






Those are some great pictures. We live pretty close and thats about what I would expect within the 300 acre block behind where I live. We have 70 acres mostly oaks and pine . There's another 60 acres about the same. The rest is pasture and hayland. I don't coon hunt here. My kids kill a couple or three deer most years and I don't think the neighbors hunt. I'm confident deer way outnumber coon.


Posted by Majestic Tree H on 09-30-2011 07:40 PM:

Here at our Place its about 20 to 1 !!!! No Joke at all .. at least 20 deer to each coon.....

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Posted by l.lyle on 10-06-2011 06:26 AM:

I was just searching for raccoon densities and that is what I found for Wisconsin. I did not find anything for SC or GA. But they say from one coon per acre to One coon per 150 acres. Heck , that's the way it seems to be around here about January. If I get back in the woods on the tract I hunt it might be one per 150 acres . As long as I stay by the marsh edge it might be 1 per acre till I thin them down.


Posted by Jason Baldwin on 10-06-2011 06:48 AM:

quote:
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Id crap my pants if I had 6 coon per ac. Dang!


Yep, me too ! Some folks just have absolutly no clue how good they got it.


Posted by Clint Welsh on 10-07-2011 03:36 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Virgil
Fish and Wildlife claim there are around 6 deer per acre in the county I live. I would imagine there are more coon than that but not many more.


Seems pretty high, are you sure it wasn't per square mile? An acre couldn't support that many deer for very long. Just curious, I don't know where you live.

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Posted by l.lyle on 10-07-2011 04:50 AM:

I just found that my county is supposed to have 30 to 45 deer per square mile (640 acres) in 2000. That's the latest from DNR. Also found out we got 3 coyotes per square mile and 4 hogs, but nothing about coons.


Posted by CWT on 10-07-2011 09:10 AM:

we have waaaaaaaaaaaay more coons then deer. Around here you cant drive a mile without seeing one or two coons dead on the side of the road


Posted by l.lyle on 10-11-2011 01:43 AM:

I just talked to two soaking wet deer hunters been up there in the drizzlle and wind all day and did not see a deer. Wonder why? But both saw between 5 and ten coons. I said i would take care of the coons and they were happy but did not want me to hunt till after deer season scared the dogs would scare off any deer (that they don't think they have) from thinking about coming to their wilderness rows of planted pines.LOL


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