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Posted by coon dawg on 08-22-2007 11:15 AM:

another question poll...........

.....how many think the rules should be changed, and Night Champion/Grand Night dogs NOT be scratched for off game???...........as per PKC ???

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Posted by Loren Simpson on 08-22-2007 11:41 AM:

Yep scratch em!!!

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Posted by roughcreek on 08-22-2007 04:00 PM:

i think pkc should scratch um !! i think registered should be scratched too !!


Posted by coon dawg on 08-22-2007 04:04 PM:

..........

quote:
Originally posted by roughcreek
i think pkc should scratch um !! i think registered should be scratched too !!
.......yeah, me too........

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Posted by Christy on 08-22-2007 04:31 PM:

HERE'S WHAT I THINK.

FOR ALL CATEGORIES OF THE HUT---ANY OFF GAME WHETHER IT'S RAN, TREED, BROUGHT BACK TO YOU (UNLESS I'VE OBVIOUSLY BEEN DEAD FOR A WHILE) OR BOOGER BARKED AT---SCRATCH

OBVIOUS SLICK TREE---MINUS ON FIRST OFFENSE, SCRATCH ON 2ND (ANY DOG CAN MESS UP, AND THIS WILL GIVE THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO THE DOG FOR SLICK TREE #1)


IN MY OPINION THIS WILL PRODUCE A BETTER QUAITY NTCH OR GRNTCH.

BECAUSE THOSE THAT HAVE SLICK TREEING IDIOTS WILL GET TIRED OF PAYING $15-$30 ENTRY FEES JUST TO GET SCRATCHED.

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Posted by MRC on 08-22-2007 04:47 PM:

In my opinion, there should only be plus points and minus points. No circle points. This would help with limiting the slick treeing idiots that are in some of the hunts.


Posted by ky_walker_man_x on 08-22-2007 05:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by roughcreek
i think pkc should scratch um !! i think registered should be scratched too !!


well put if the dogs are not broke why would you put them in a hunt anyway scratchem all

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Posted by ItsOlMander on 08-22-2007 05:51 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Christy
HERE'S WHAT I THINK.

FOR ALL CATEGORIES OF THE HUT---ANY OFF GAME WHETHER IT'S RAN, TREED, BROUGHT BACK TO YOU (UNLESS I'VE OBVIOUSLY BEEN DEAD FOR A WHILE) OR BOOGER BARKED AT---SCRATCH

OBVIOUS SLICK TREE---MINUS ON FIRST OFFENSE, SCRATCH ON 2ND (ANY DOG CAN MESS UP, AND THIS WILL GIVE THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO THE DOG FOR SLICK TREE #1)


IN MY OPINION THIS WILL PRODUCE A BETTER QUAITY NTCH OR GRNTCH.

BECAUSE THOSE THAT HAVE SLICK TREEING IDIOTS WILL GET TIRED OF PAYING $15-$30 ENTRY FEES JUST TO GET SCRATCHED.




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Posted by K. Singletary on 08-22-2007 06:13 PM:

I believe if my dog can draw minus for treeing off game and still have more points than a dog that did not, my dog should win the cast.

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Posted by brian gilley on 08-22-2007 06:54 PM:

I agree with Mr. Singeltary, Jeremiah Glaze


Posted by GA DAWG on 08-22-2007 06:56 PM:

What needs changed in ukc is if at anytime during a hunt dogs bark up at a possum it needs sent home. Titled dogs and none titled dogs... Should not be any loopholes in the rules to save a possum treeing dog..


Posted by itchy_chiggar on 08-22-2007 08:17 PM:

TRASH

I think that reg dogs should also be scratched!!!!!We all go to comp COON HUNTS, NOT COMP TRASH HUNTS !!! Why hunt trashy dogs any way!!

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Posted by L. Harper on 08-22-2007 08:20 PM:

I THINK NTCH, GRNTCH, AND REGISTERED DOGS SHOULD ALL BE SCRATCHED FOR OFF GAME. START SCRATCHING REGISTERED DOG AND PEOPLE WOULD STOP BRINGING AN PUP THAT JUST STARTED TREEING TO HUNTS. THE LAST REGISTER CAST I WAS IN WAS A JOKE. AND PEOPLE ARE BREEDING TO AND FOR SOME OF THIS CRAP. WHAT A JOKE!


Posted by Va cooner on 08-22-2007 09:16 PM:

scratch titled dogs should be broke dogs.

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Posted by roughcreek on 08-22-2007 09:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by L. Harper
I THINK NTCH, GRNTCH, AND REGISTERED DOGS SHOULD ALL BE SCRATCHED FOR OFF GAME. START SCRATCHING REGISTERED DOG AND PEOPLE WOULD STOP BRINGING AN PUP THAT JUST STARTED TREEING TO HUNTS. THE LAST REGISTER CAST I WAS IN WAS A JOKE. AND PEOPLE ARE BREEDING TO AND FOR SOME OF THIS CRAP. WHAT A JOKE!



did you win your cast !!


Posted by brian gilley on 08-22-2007 09:50 PM:

I think if a dog trees a possum he should be minused. All dogs make mistakes. If he is enough dog to come back and tree several coons and still win the cast then he has proven himself in my book although none of mine will, I think a dog ought to be able to redeem himself. Dont we make mistakes? That like saying if a golfer takes a bad swing and hits a ball in the lake he is out of the tournament. No on the next hole he comes bake and par a hole and and he is right back in the game. Sure he has played for years and should have been better than to hit it in the lake but people make mistakes just like dogs. If a dog trees a possum first drop on a registered cast and comes back and trees the only two coons seen is he not the best dog of the hours??? What is the diference in a NITE CHAMPION??? Sometimes the only differnce in a registered dog and a NITE CH is one weekend!!!!! Minus him and if he is good enough he will come back and win. If anything reduce the amount of minus a NIte ch can get before he is minused out.... to 300 or 250 or 225 that way he is allowed to screw up because everybody knows they and we all do, but he wont be able to screw up too much. Jeremiah Glaze


Posted by RedBones4me on 08-22-2007 09:59 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Christy
HERE'S WHAT I THINK.

FOR ALL CATEGORIES OF THE HUT---ANY OFF GAME WHETHER IT'S RAN, TREED, BROUGHT BACK TO YOU (UNLESS I'VE OBVIOUSLY BEEN DEAD FOR A WHILE) OR BOOGER BARKED AT---SCRATCH

OBVIOUS SLICK TREE---MINUS ON FIRST OFFENSE, SCRATCH ON 2ND (ANY DOG CAN MESS UP, AND THIS WILL GIVE THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO THE DOG FOR SLICK TREE #1)


IN MY OPINION THIS WILL PRODUCE A BETTER QUAITY NTCH OR GRNTCH.

BECAUSE THOSE THAT HAVE SLICK TREEING IDIOTS WILL GET TIRED OF PAYING $15-$30 ENTRY FEES JUST TO GET SCRATCHED.




I agree 100%

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Posted by jimmie legrand on 08-23-2007 03:11 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by roughcreek
i think pkc should scratch um !! i think registered should be scratched too !!

ditto
registered nitch and grnite scratch them all on a comp hunt it is about treein coon not oppossum deer or any other animal just coon i know hounds make mistakes but on those comp night is not the night to screw up you are bein judged on that night so you better bring yer a game

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Posted by ringtail on 08-23-2007 04:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by coon dawg
.....NOT be scratched for off game???...........as per PKC ???
i think PKC should change their rule.....

leave it like it is........ i don't think reg dogs should be scratched, say you have a young hunter with a young dog just starting to comp hunt... the kid is fired up over the new experience the young dog is fired up over the new experience and his (young) dog in his 1st hunt on his 1st drop, dog makes a mistake (bangs a grinner)- "GO HOME you little turd & take old trash w/ you".. the kid may go home and not come back......

i can see & agree w/ the point that U shouldn't bring a dog to the hunts before it is 100% broke...

i think there is more deer runners than there are possum dogs being put in the hunts.... i have a freind that has won a chunk of $ in PKC w/ a dog that will burn a deer but as soon as he crosses a hot coon track he'll put it up a tree... and he runs a coon track just as hard & wide open as he does a deer...i can't tell the difference but jeremy knows when he switches... the only way you'll catch him at it is if he runs a deer over top the cast......

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Posted by Mike Fisher on 08-23-2007 04:42 AM:

Here is what I think.If you dont like the way a rule is in a certain kennel club dont hunt in it.All I see on this site is either UKC is better or PKC is better .SO WHAT!!!!! I hunt both and enjoy both......I personally think a Dog should only be minused for off game....I can think of other important things a dog should be scratched for.....Like ( Failure to hunt , Babbling , Fighting)It just gets old the downgrading of PKC on this site.We all are in the same sport and we need to learn to work together instead of working against each other.....................If people want to hunt Trashy Hounds let em ....shouldnt that make it easier for the rest of us to win?

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Posted by L. Harper on 08-23-2007 06:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by roughcreek
did you win your cast !!


YES 575+ 0-. NEXT CLOSEST DOG TO ME HAD 50+ AND THE OTHER 2, 1 WAS SCRATCHED FOR NOT MAKING AN ATTEMPT TO HUNT, AND THE OTHER MINUSED OUT TREEING AND LEAVING.


Posted by Blue Ice on 08-23-2007 06:13 PM:

Re: TRASH

quote:
Originally posted by itchy_chiggar
I think that reg dogs should also be scratched!!!!!We all go to comp COON HUNTS, NOT COMP TRASH HUNTS !!! Why hunt trashy dogs any way!!


OMG the pot calling the kettle Black LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by blutickluver on 08-23-2007 06:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Christy
HERE'S WHAT I THINK.

FOR ALL CATEGORIES OF THE HUT---ANY OFF GAME WHETHER IT'S RAN, TREED, BROUGHT BACK TO YOU (UNLESS I'VE OBVIOUSLY BEEN DEAD FOR A WHILE) OR BOOGER BARKED AT---SCRATCH

OBVIOUS SLICK TREE---MINUS ON FIRST OFFENSE, SCRATCH ON 2ND (ANY DOG CAN MESS UP, AND THIS WILL GIVE THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO THE DOG FOR SLICK TREE #1)


IN MY OPINION THIS WILL PRODUCE A BETTER QUAITY NTCH OR GRNTCH.

BECAUSE THOSE THAT HAVE SLICK TREEING IDIOTS WILL GET TIRED OF PAYING $15-$30 ENTRY FEES JUST TO GET SCRATCHED.



i am in 100% agreement with this statement i think this is an excellent idea and should be looked into by ukc

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