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Is there a way ?

To be able to show the younger hunters the same good unforgettable experiences that a lot of us older hunters have seen through the years. the memories I have a lot of the people have passed but they had a certain special way of doing things is it to fast paced for the younger generation to even be interested ? or does somtimes pride or peer pressure get in the way? We did not have all the brand new coonhunting conveniences they have today but was it ever fun.

Nope

Those days are gone.

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Bob Turnbow 931-212-0069

No they aren't just don't blow the young guys off! They really like learning fromold farts like you mr. Tar. Seems like every couple yrs I get the oopportunity to buddy up with a high school kid and show him what I know about our sport, it sure is fun seeing them getting into it!

Rob

I'm just thinking a lot of the experiences a lot of us older ones had don't exist anymore sad to say.

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Bob Turnbow 931-212-0069

I don't think it's impossible to get a youth interested, but keeping them interested is another story. The way kids are raised nowadays is a far cry from the way my father and grandfather were raised. Everything is handed to kids nowadays, and nobody feels like they have to work for success anymore. There are winners and losers in life and that's a fact, but children are protected from the sting of defeat so when they finally experience the real world they can't handle it. When failure comes their way they lose interest and run for the hills. Training a hound takes commitment and keeping one in top coon treeing shape is no different, but commitment, hard work, and perseverance are values that are fading fast in this country.
By the way, I'm only 22 years old and I have experienced this first hand. A few of my buddies are this way.
"that Ridge is too steep"
"How long is this going to take"
"I'd rather go to a party"
"This is too much work"
"Tonight? We've already hunted 2 nights this week"
All of them love to hear me talk about coonhunting and wanted to go until they saw how much time I put into this sport I love. Once they realized it all wasn't fun and games they were gone.
I will tell you this, I'm very thankful for the dedicated old timers who have shown me the ropes and put in the time with me so that maybe one day I can pass their wisdom on to a young man like myself.
If it weren't for these men I would still be lost trying to find my way through the world of coonhounds. Things they've shared and taught me are things i'll cherish and never forget. I just hope that I can do the same for someone else one day.

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Preston Chadwell
276-275-3615

Those things I remember we're not expensive if they would have been we would have been out of luck lol ! But can anybody remember getting to the hunt and the whole hunt grounds you could smell the food cooking and trying to hide the treeing contest coon the little kids leading their dogs around trying to find it lol!! The sound of dominos being shuffled sombody hollering 42 just simple things.

Re: Rob

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Originally posted by blue blue
I'm just thinking a lot of the experiences a lot of us older ones had don't exist anymore sad to say.

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Iraq Vet, 03-05, 05-07, 09-10

Phone number 270-820-5560

SO SAD.

I am In Canada but I don't think it's much different here. Being closer to 75 than 70 years old, I've seen a lot. I have watched this country turn into a Liberal Nanny State. Our sport has declined steadily since the early eighties when they stopped failing kids in school and just moved them on. (Nobody must fail as it would hurt their little egos.) But that was just the beginning. You all know to what extent it has gotten to. They no longer have Track and Field Day in our schools as it puts too much presser on the kids to preform. Our sport is a very competitive one and if you've been raised (by the system) to expect a trophy for losing, you won't last coon hunting. Those of you who enjoy this sport today and strive to get to the top, well I congratulate you and your parents for overcoming the system. I truly believe this is one of the main reasons the youth don't last in our sport. JMO

Vic McMillan

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“Two people can look at the exact same
Thing and see something totally different.”

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Was just saying kids today will never have our moments of trying to head off a dog running a deer before e collars and leaving your coat on the ground and returning next morning to see if that dog that got out of pocket came back. Those are the days that I meant are gone. I'm sure we can make new memories with them that will probably mean just as much but I still feel they're missing something.

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Bob Turnbow 931-212-0069

Then my question to my generation is have any of y'all ever bean hungry ? I mean we're you would eat anything to make your tummy quit hurting ? I have I was raised in a home were alcohol came first. If not for all those ruff old coonhunters that watched over me I don't know where I would be they did not want a pat on the back what they did they hardly even spoke of it all the sandwiches when they took me hunting the advice when I needed it the butt chewing a to. The school that my wife teaches at is 85% assisted lunches between the dope and the casinos these kids don't have a chance no they are not doing good at school because a lot of them that's the only place they feel safe enough to sleep. So my question is how much does it cost you for a little of your time and some sandwiches to make a life changing difference in a young persons life.

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Originally posted by Preston Chadwell
I don't think it's impossible to get a youth interested, but keeping them interested is another story. The way kids are raised nowadays is a far cry from the way my father and grandfather were raised. Everything is handed to kids nowadays, and nobody feels like they have to work for success anymore. There are winners and losers in life and that's a fact, but children are protected from the sting of defeat so when they finally experience the real world they can't handle it. When failure comes their way they lose interest and run for the hills. Training a hound takes commitment and keeping one in top coon treeing shape is no different, but commitment, hard work, and perseverance are values that are fading fast in this country.
By the way, I'm only 22 years old and I have experienced this first hand. A few of my buddies are this way.
"that Ridge is too steep"
"How long is this going to take"
"I'd rather go to a party"
"This is too much work"
"Tonight? We've already hunted 2 nights this week"
All of them love to hear me talk about coonhunting and wanted to go until they saw how much time I put into this sport I love. Once they realized it all wasn't fun and games they were gone.
I will tell you this, I'm very thankful for the dedicated old timers who have shown me the ropes and put in the time with me so that maybe one day I can pass their wisdom on to a young man like myself.
If it weren't for these men I would still be lost trying to find my way through the world of coonhounds. Things they've shared and taught me are things i'll cherish and never forget. I just hope that I can do the same for someone else one day.

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( White Light What A Night )

Yea good luck with that. I refuse to take a kid hunting or fishing if they take their phone. Makes me mad to try to teach a kid to enjoy the outdoors while they talk' text or play games on their phone. If you ask them to leave their phone you will be going by yourself. Guess I'm just getting old and contrary but i've learned to enjoy the peace and quiet of going alone and I win all the arguments.

Robert Hitt

Good post. Alcohol, gambling, are deffinatley not a good combination for home, especially if addiction is in the mix. That is when a mentor and God are needed.

Yadkinriver, them being on their phone is all a lot of them know. Meet that child on there level and bring them up to yours. Or just give up on them.

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Iraq Vet, 03-05, 05-07, 09-10

Phone number 270-820-5560

Preston Chadwell

Excellent post. I personally know this young man ( Preston) and folks Preston is the real deal. We need more young men like Preston . Preston is a no excuses get the job done kind of guy that sure makes me proud to be around. High moral values, great work ethic and super personality. Winner Winner ! Dave

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Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses

I sure appreciate the kind words Dave, it means alot.

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Preston Chadwell
276-275-3615

Preston Chadwell

You have earned these compliments my friend! You are certainly welcome. Dave

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Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses

You would have to find someone willing to hunt the way we used to...

- you'd have to turn today's lights on low, because that's as bright as our lights ever got!
- you'd have to leave the electronics at home! Can you imagine only knowing what your dog was doing, based on what you can hear???
- you would have to carry a spare coat with you, to leave out, when the night was over and you had no idea where your dog was! Remember the old coat, that your dog would be laying on, when you came back the next morning?
- you would also leave your running shoes at home, because it wasn't a race to the tree back then! Today's dogs are harder, stay-put tree dogs, than we had back then, but everyone seems to be in a hurry to get to that tree nowadays!

IF we took a young people hunting like this, without all the pressure and stress of having to know what our dogs are up to every second, and whether 10 minutes have passed and we haven't treed 2-3 coon, maybe we would have more kids getting into the sport. If I was an outsider observing how we hunt today, I think it would stress me out just watching!

I think the younger generation is more "fast pace" oriented, but so are many coon hunters, the way they act. Maybe if we took the old approach, we would have better luck. I personally look to coon hunting as an escape from the hustle and bustle, maybe others would too...

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David Schmidt
219-614-0654

Some kids are turned on by the sound of hounds running and treeing. Some are not. I had friends in high school that were raised just like me and they would run dogs with me sometimes but didnt care much for it. Hunting hounds isnt what keeps kids from drugs and things believe me i loved hunting as much as anyone, i was raised in a God fearing home but i still was caught up in all the peer pressure. If you want to really help a kid just spend time with them whether hunting or whatever.

all good replys just hope they want to go and show some intrest i take my neighbor teens they love it .my sons friends come.up to the cabin we cut the dogs out they film on phones make me vids send to there face book im not that advanced dont care to lol but there friends think its a crazy nite out of.big fun i enjoy the company also .JP.

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Ghettohounds..teamamish

all good replys just hope they want to go and show some intrest i take my neighbor teens they love it .my sons friends come.up to the cabin we cut the dogs out they film on phones make me vids send to there face book im not that advanced dont care to lol but there friends think its a crazy nite out of.big fun i enjoy the company also .JP.

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Ghettohounds..teamamish

all good replys just hope they want to go and show some intrest i take my neighbor teens they love it .my sons friends come.up to the cabin we cut the dogs out they film on phones make me vids send to there face book im not that advanced dont care to lol but there friends think its a crazy nite out of.big fun i enjoy the company also .JP.

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Ghettohounds..teamamish

I hauled several around for a couple years to different hunts. Let them hunt dogs show dogs and whatever they wanted. Now they have there license and some are out of school, I do not hear from them. I still would not change a single thing and if they called me today I would pick them up tonight and take them with me. From what I have witnessed and have seen is that there still is the mindset with too many people young and old that when a new person is brought into a hunt that this is there easy win instead of lets make sure win or lose we make sure the new person has a good time. I have seen too many young ones pushed and argued with from other hunters so they could get a win.
It is very tough to compete with the "wild times" as youth have to learn there way but always be available if they need something.

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