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Posted by J.Hall on 12-14-2004 03:30 AM:

Maybe this is a dumb question........?

Well, I always see and here everybody talk about a gyp or brood female or a bitch. What the heck is the difference. I know they are different terms that mean different things, But I have no idea what they mean. I am fairly new in coonhunting and have not owned a female untill about 3 days ago when I got a female pup. I was just wondering? Thanks in advance!

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Posted by Craig Edwards on 12-14-2004 03:47 AM:

J Hall

All of these terms refer to female dogs. I think when people use the term brood female, they are referring to a dog used primarily for breeding purposes. A dog that is activley hunted is referred to as a hunting dog, and if the dog is not being hunted, only bred, it is called a brood female. They are all females, some hunted(possibly bred), others used for raising pups. Hopes this does not confuse you. You won't know if you don't ask.

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Posted by Blacklabel on 12-14-2004 03:51 AM:

i call a young or unbred female a gyp and a bred female or one thqat has had pups a bitch dog, but thats just me i might be wrong

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Posted by warrior on 12-14-2004 03:59 AM:

I myself,

generally use the term gyp to refer to a young female that has not been bred yet. The term bitch usually refers to a female that has been bred at least once. If it is precceding by brood then she is most likely a puppy machine and not in the woods on a regular basis.
I like hunting and handling females so I am liable to call any of them bitch at any given moment, of course it usually has nothing to do with their gender though. LOL

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Posted by J.Hall on 12-14-2004 03:59 AM:

that makes some sense. I knew that they all associated females just not sure what it all meant. Thanks again.

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Posted by ronald schultz on 12-14-2004 04:15 AM:

jordan

if she doesnt turn out then she was a gyp, if she makes you mad then shes a bitch, if she kills your neighbors young turkeys this spring then shes a brood bitch


Posted by honalieh on 12-14-2004 04:55 AM:

Terms

A gyp is a female dog. A bitch is a female that pisses you off while hunting. A brood bitch is a female that pissed you off too many times while hunting, but she has good breeding, so you decide that surely you'll have better luck with pups out of her than you've had with her. That's my take.

I'd stick to the male and female terminology. "Bitch" is an offensive term. The uncouth often preceed it with another offensive term. Stick to male and female.


Posted by jackbob42 on 12-14-2004 05:08 AM:

Re: Terms

quote:
Originally posted by honalieh
"Bitch" is an offensive term.


I agree.
My females will always be " females ".

Might be my " old female " or my " young female " , but they will be female.

I haven't cared for that term since I was a kid. Must be my dad didn't like it either , cause his females were " females " also.

jmo.

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Posted by warrior on 12-14-2004 05:10 AM:

Uncouth?

Not me.

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Posted by ringtail on 12-14-2004 06:40 AM:

just me....

i refer to young unbred female as gyp.....
i refer to mature or bred females as bitch.....
i refer to females used for breeding (only) as brood bitch.....

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Posted by ringtail on 12-14-2004 07:00 AM:

offensive????????

quote:
..... "Bitch" is an offensive term. Stick to male and female.
what is offensive about it? a "bitch" is what it is... look it up in the dictionary........... the animal rights nutcakes reference a female dog as "bitch" ...... what does your vet call females? if bitch is offensive, does the same hold true for gyp (is it also offensive)??????

sure if someone calls you a son of a bitch then yes that is OFFENSIVE.... common since will tell you if somebody is using it offensively or just talking about a female dog what she is....

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Posted by skyblu on 12-14-2004 12:56 PM:

Bitch is a perfectly acceptable term

and if someone calls ME a bitch -
I just say, "Thank you."

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Posted by Craig Edwards on 12-14-2004 01:49 PM:

For me

I never refer to my females as bitch. I know that it is a correct term for a female dog, but the word has been taken out of context, and has been used as adjectives, or nouns, and verbs, to describe so many other things. When rappers, and actors say it, they are not referring to "Bugle Ann." The word is used in connection to a prostitute, a "Slutty woman," a complaining woman, or a woman with an attitude. I never used these terms, especially around children, because, simply put, they do not know the difference. If I used that word, my kids (which are grown) would think I am curssing.It is just as easy to say female, or gyp, or brood female. I don't like to use words that I did not want my kids to use. There are probably very few people in the world that know what the word really means, and if they hear you say it, they will think you said...well........you get the point. The word "bitch" is just poor taste. You can say something else, mean the same thing, and eliminate the problem. If you do use it, don't be suprised if you hear your kids use it in connection with something else, other than a female dog.

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Posted by nealglen37 on 12-15-2004 05:41 PM:

Re: jordan

quote:
Originally posted by ronald schultz
if she doesnt turn out then she was a gyp, if she makes you mad then shes a bitch, if she kills your neighbors young turkeys this spring then shes a brood bitch


Posted by nealglen37 on 12-15-2004 05:46 PM:

Gyp

I think Schultz is on target. I just lost a walker gyp and she took A good english male with her. I turned out 9 am for exercise/while i was getting coat from front of p u they headed for road ,I went after them vanished.I have been gyped.Neal


Posted by TomMN on 12-15-2004 05:58 PM:

offensive?

Some people find "In God we trust" offensive. Some people even find "Merry Christmas" offensive. Myself, I find anyone that tells me what I can or can't say or think offensive.

Merry Christmas!


Posted by newhunter on 12-15-2004 08:59 PM:

I agree 100% with Mr. Edwards. My boys are old enough to know what it means, and they do. But I still don't use the word because of the context that society has put it in. My wife can't stand that word, I tell her all the time it is the proper turn for a female dog, but as Mr. Edwards states, society has turned it around so in people's minds it doesn't mean what the dictionary says. It oesn't matter to her though; because in her mind it is still a cuss word. I would venture to say the majority of people in the USA would agree with my wife if asked about it.


Posted by ronald schultz on 04-09-2010 04:17 AM:

jordan

whats up?


Posted by barryg35 on 04-09-2010 04:24 AM:

Re: Bitch is a perfectly acceptable term

quote:
Originally posted by skyblu
and if someone calls ME a bitch -
I just say, "Thank you."



haha was wondering what the females were going to say about this.

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Posted by Bluedogman on 04-09-2010 08:57 AM:

If the term fits you gotta accept it I guess!

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Posted by capt_agricultur on 04-09-2010 12:20 PM:

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Posted by john Duemmer on 04-09-2010 12:56 PM:

Well il be ( coonhunter political correctness) we shouldnt call a female hound a bitch LOL. Personally im much more offended when i hear dogs dogs refered to like they are children (little girl or little boy). This world is definatley passing me by.

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