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Males vs Females
I’m sure this has been debated on here over and over. But me and a buddy were talking the other day, and I’m just curious what everyone else’s opinion is on hunting males vs females. Which typically finishes to the better dog, starts easier, etc.
Like to hear others thoughts on the subject.
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From a very young age I have always liked females !
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In my experience females are usually a little more calm and played back compared to a male dog. So they're usually a little easier to handle, dont get me wrong I've had a couple female's that were just as high strong as a male but very few. Females also seem a little more eager to please.
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I've always preferred hunting females because they have no issues, if you are hunting with strange males, whether it be pleasure or competition. No peein on the weeds when you turn loose or aggresion at trees. But you do have heat cycles to contend with once or twice a year. Also, I can breed a good female to the stud dog of MY choice to raise a litter out of. Take care, Ron.
Females only come in twice a year .ales are in 365 days a year
I've almost always had better results starting male dogs. However, my females finished stronger and lasted longer. Needless to say, I'm a female guy.
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I perfer females but have had some nice males. If I had to deal with a male acting like it's in heat year around I sure wouldn't breed it and get pups that act that way.
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I like females but there can be frustrations with their heat cycles. Lot of disruptions to plans. I think it is even more of an issue today as their heat cycles overall don't seem to be as regular as they once were. As far as the finished quality of a male or female. Thats a personal thing and varies from owner to owner.
I know I have spent a lot of money on female dogs trying to schedule and plan for them to be at a certain hunt at a certain time. Then having a heat cycle put a hold on everything.
Had one a few years ago being hunted by a friend in KY. He was getting her ready for a large hunt. Day he is fixing to load her up and head that way. He calls and says she is starting in heat. Our first thought is we were not going to enter her and have her perhaps affect anyones male dog that they paid entry fees on and also had big dreams about. I sent a do hauler to get her and bring her back down here as I wanted to breed her to a male that me and another guy owned together. Dog hauler traveled 12 hours and hauled her to my buddies house 3 house south of me. Well when she got there she was coming in but not accepting the male, which was normal for being early in the cycle. But instead of coming in she completely went out of heat. So the next week I drove 3 hours down there to bring her home. I had her home a week and she came back in heat again. Lot of traveling and frustration for nothing.
Also just a couple years ago. I had a female being hunted by a friend in a northern state. He was successful in the hunts with her and won a spot for a truck hunt. I got her back down here about a month before the hunt. Had her in shape, made the reservations for travel, paid the entry. Bingo, she comes in heat a week before the hunt. So another failed attempt due to heat cycles. I know this story has been repeated over and over again all across this country. Just part of it. I love a good female hound for what they can bring to a breeding program. But I don't have one of those. I had a hunt program that heat cycles seem to mess up.
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Both are frustrating in their own ways haha! One thing I like about a male over a female, that hasn't been said and may just be my own bias, is I don't worry much when a male dog has to tree for a good while, (obviously depends on tree style), but I get anxious leaving a female treed 45 minutes to an hour.
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I'm in the same dilemma now. Have to go pick up a new pup in a couple weeks don't know if I want a male or female. It does appear males win most of the big hunts. Although a good female has its value in raising pups as well. Also if you were trying to keep bloodlines you would rather want a female. like somebody else said it's easier to go get your female bred than find a female to breed your male if you don't have one.
We like our females and since I have pups for sale right now and almost everyone wants a female, I have to believe most people like starting females.
I remember and I think older hunters would agree, you could hardly give a female pup away. I guess everyone was looking for the next stud dog, I have been blessed I have owned both,
Ive had better luck with male pups turning out
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I’ve had really good ones in both....but I like males for the size and strength on account I like my dogs physically stop a good sized boar...that is the goal
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I prefer females although I hunt males also. About 80% of the dogs I've owned long term were females.
My main dog right now is a Male but I have a younger female I have big plans for.
The main reason I prefer females is they just seem to be more about business. They don't need to smell every dog's butt in the cast and then pee on 3 or 4 trees before going hunting. They also seem to be a little more level headed. Also a mean Male dog will usually leave females alone at the tree so that's less to worry about.
Now, females have issues also. Mostly heat cycles. Man they can sure mess up some plans. My little female now comes in a month earlier than expected based on her birthday and thus will never be able to hunt in the Super Stakes or PKC World Hunt because she will be in heat. Also some females will act funny before and after heat cycles which can take away more time with them in the woods.
The number one reason I like females better has already been said, it's hard to find pups out of a nice female and a stud dog you like. My little female is a grand daughter to a stud dog we owned over 10 years ago. I can now keep the blood line going and take it in whatever direction I want.
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As you mentioned females are strictly business and can sure get it done...
Even in the human world...women in general get to there office and go to work while men get a few cups of coffee and talk about hunting or fishing before getting started...😁
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Training dogs is not so much about quantity, it's more about timing, and the right situations...After that it's up to the dog....A hunting dog is born...
Imho, females mature faster than males. I've had better luck with females being healthier. I've had some decent male dogs, but I prefer females.
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Dogs vs gyps
In 30+ yrs I’ve found In my experience that the males don’t hold a candle to the females on average. Gyps start easier with far less issues on average. My experience, I’ve had to cull 10 males dogs for every 1 gyp is probably an accurate statement. However the exception to the rule I’ve seen is when that one Exceptional male comes along, Most females can’t touch him. I’m not talking about common dogs. I’m talking real dogs. It’s been several years but I’m high on a male pup again. I have a semen pup sired by the old Moffets WC Deamon Dog that I turned loose on the farm. He has pretty much done it on his own. Started running fast game at just under four months old and has started treeing live raccoons in the last couple weeks. He’s a baby and won’t be 6 months old until 6/20/20. Very,Very Impressive male pup. But like I said upon average, I’ve had far greater success overall with gyps.
Red creek hunter you are correct n my opinioun. Best coon treer ever owned female. Cut it or climb it. Was fortunate enough to able to own one that were ever I went no matter the conditions always had a coon of course this was n the mid eighties. When hounds run a track before they treed of course. Sounds like u have bingo on ya extremely young pup doing so well. A deamon pup of 40 years down the road WOW! Bet you are excited. Hopefully I will get lucky as you
I have had good males and good females. Some pups start earlier than others and some dogs turn out better than others. I don't think that sex matters except that you can't hunt a female while she is in heat. It might knock you out of a big hunt occasionally.
Re: Dogs vs gyps
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Originally posted by RedCreek Hunter
In 30+ yrs I’ve found In my experience that the males don’t hold a candle to the females on average. Gyps start easier with far less issues on average. My experience, I’ve had to cull 10 males dogs for every 1 gyp is probably an accurate statement. However the exception to the rule I’ve seen is when that one Exceptional male comes along, Most females can’t touch him. I’m not talking about common dogs. I’m talking real dogs
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