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Posted by Gorfour on 11-28-2012 02:21 AM:

Coonhound/Plott mix rescue need advice

I adopted a redbone coonhound about three months ago, I think he is mixed with Plott because he has brindle in his coat. He's about a year old and we are having a hard time with him. He is extremely mouthy and shows fearful aggression when we are outdoors (not in the house). He chews everything in his path, except rawhides. My husbands about had it with him, but I adore the dog. We know nothing about coonhounds. I am home with him all day, he is an indoor dog with a fenced backyard, and I walk him 1-2miles a day. Help! Ideas? Advice?


Posted by LIL-E on 11-28-2012 02:24 AM:

Get a treadmill and cage it in or use car or atv to run the mess out of him. JMO


Posted by Gorfour on 11-28-2012 02:30 AM:

So you think he needs more exercise? I could do that. Maybe run him next to he bike? I have a backpack for him, it doesn't make a difference. He has a way of stopping dead in his tracks on a walk or just flat out lies down. I thought he was tired? Is he just being stubborn?


Posted by Gorfour on 11-28-2012 03:01 AM:

I have another question, how do I find out if this a trained coonhound that got lost? Can I take him to a hunt and see how he does? Lol. I don't know anything about the sport. Seems like he would love it though.


Posted by JustinH23 on 11-28-2012 04:46 PM:

Could be mixed with something besides a Plott. There are other dog breeds that are brindle. Sounds like you have a good pet if nothing else.

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Posted by curs12 on 11-28-2012 05:05 PM:

hounds are a little different than other dogs at times, i'd just really take charge and get on him some, maybe a shock collar, and i'd run the daylights out of him, i'd run him on the bike or next to the car whatever he'll get the idea etc..


Posted by ohiocooner2.2 on 11-28-2012 06:42 PM:

I apologize if I am wrong but
I would advise people on this board to be cautious of posts like this. This is a new forum member and this is the only post. Sounds to me like someone wanting one of us to give advice to Shoot this mut and then use it against houndsman and hunting with hounds.
This has got PETA wrote all over it
Who in their right mind would want to take a dog like this to a hunt?
Take questions like this to dog behavior forums not Coonhunting forums


Posted by JustinH23 on 11-28-2012 07:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ohiocooner2.2
I apologize if I am wrong but
I would advise people on this board to be cautious of posts like this. This is a new forum member and this is the only post. Sounds to me like someone wanting one of us to give advice to Shoot this mut and then use it against houndsman and hunting with hounds.
This has got PETA wrote all over it
Who in their right mind would want to take a dog like this to a hunt?
Take questions like this to dog behavior forums not Coonhunting forums



There is another similar post on the forum, something just seems strange about it.

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Posted by Gorfour on 11-28-2012 07:27 PM:

Sheesh! I was just trying to get some help. I thought this would be the place, to learn more about coonhounds and that maybe I was missing something. Yes I just signed up so I could ask yall what I should do with the dog because yall seem pretty experienced with coonhounds. I am no coon hunter I am a housewife who adopted a dog who was about to be put down.

Rusty is a great dog! Listen, I adopted this dog from an animal control in a town where a ton of people have and hunt coonhounds. I just thought, he might be trained? I don't know. You know how people take their labs to dock diving competitions just to see how they take to it? I thought coonhunting was maybe the same. Clearly I am wrong.

Rusty did awesome today, I ran him next to my bike and he has been a lot more manageable today. I definitely underestimated his energy, he ran a mile and half and didn't even break a sweat.

Thanks for the advice.


Posted by Gorfour on 11-28-2012 07:29 PM:

As a side note, I did not see any "behavior" forum. Please send me the link and I will take my questions there in the future.


Posted by Littletown on 11-28-2012 07:30 PM:

Advice for your rescue dog

I would like to see you post a good photo of this dog on here; could you do that ?

Do you know if rescue pulled him from a shelter as a "stray", or if he was an "owner surrender" ?

Your dog may have pitbull in him (due to the brindle), or greyhound, bullmastiff, boxer, etc. Or Plott hound, as you said.

It is possible that the dog was once owned by a hunter, & because of his bad habits (mouthy, fearful aggression, chewing everything, etc.), he may have been given away to someone who didn't keep him properly contained, he may have gotten lost during hunting, or stolen & dumped by someone, who knows...

What bothers me about your description of him is that he 'stops dead in his tracks on a walk - or just flat out lies down'. That is not normal for a dog to do (except for Basset Hounds, who often pull that one while you are trying to get them to cross a street !!). The last dog I had that showed what you have described as "exercise intolerance" turned out to have a major cardiac problem, & died suddenly at the age of just under 3 years. Does this dog have a recent test for heartworm ? If not, I would get him in to see a vet right away, before you invest any more time (and love) into him. If he tests negative for heartworm, I would definitely let the vet know about his frequent "laying down", & maybe have his cardiac status checked out.

A dog of this breed should not tire so suddenly and easily while walking. As for running him next to you while on your bike, what if he suddenly stops to lay down while you are expecting to continue forward; you could end up being injured because of him. (Yes, it happened to me while I was exercising the neighbor's show dog. I broke a few bones, & the dog got loose when I fell).

I'd get your dog's health checked out, first - before I did anything more active with him. The rescue may have made sure he was up to date on vaccines, & most likely neutered him - but not all rescues test for heartworm, & I know of no all-breed rescues that do routine cardiac status testing, or OFA-style hip xrays. Dogs in pain will also stop often to lay down; his problem could be a (hip) pain issue, & not cardiac. Best to get him checked out.

One thing you could do (for FUN) is to take him to a local Coonhound meet & ask them if they are going to have a treeing contest, preferably with a live coon in the cage. You would find out right away if he is at all interested in the coon, or if he is afraid of it, or just not interested.

While you are at the meet, enjoy the bench show, field trial, & water races; you will meet lots of nice people, & who knows - you may find a brand new sport to enjoy on a regular basis


Posted by Gorfour on 11-28-2012 07:41 PM:

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Posted by Gorfour on 11-28-2012 07:42 PM:

Littletown, I can't figure out how to upload a photo?


Posted by jabrown on 11-28-2012 08:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Gorfour
Littletown, I can't figure out how to upload a photo?


http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthrea...eadid=928282322

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Posted by Gorfour on 11-28-2012 08:04 PM:

[img] http://s1282.beta.photobucket.com/u...033202947309018[/img]

Thanks - this goes to photobucket where I uploaded Rusty's photo.

Thanks for the advice, Littletown. Rusty sure has a lot of potential as a great pet and he is definitely my buddy. He has a deep, loud (bawl?) and he trees just about anything that comes into our yard. Neat dog and I can't wait to get him a little more settled and trusting.

He is HW negative, from what I can tell on the walks is that he just stops when he's had enough of being on the leash and wants to do what he wants to do (sniff around). I will mention it to my vet though, he is due to go in soon for a booster and I will make sure to ask about that.

Thanks again
Janie


Posted by Littletown on 11-28-2012 08:06 PM:

Advice for your dog

When I posted my previous reply to this thread, Gorfor's last 2 posts were not visible to me on the message board, so I did not see the part where she ran him next to her bike for "a mile and a half"....

Obviously, that sounds like a different situation than what she described in her first post, where the dog kept stopping in his tracks, lying down, and she wondered if he is "tired" or just stubborn.

The dog that I had with "exercise intolerance" was truly tired, & would persistently lay down while I was trying to walk him. I would let him rest for a few minutes, then we would begin our walk again, & within a short while, he would flop down again & need to rest. Even on cold days when heat was not an issue, this dog would only walk perhaps half the length of a football field, & then he would need to stop & lay down. It was even more obvious on a warm day; he had to stop more often, & rest longer. This was when he was only about 1 year old. NOT normal for a Smooth Fox Terrier.

Interestingly enough, when our dog club held practice sessions for terrier racing, he could run with the best of them, & his fatigue didn't seem to bother him then. It may have been the adrenaline rush from the event that got him through those sessions. At the races, he was unbeaten for nearly 2 years - until one day, at a large dog show, he finished his first race, & collapsed at the very end of it. We ran over to get him, & his gums & tongue were quite BLUE. He was alive, but exhausted. I crated him for the rest of the day, keeping a close watch on him. The next week I took him in to the vet, & testing showed us the problem (cardiac). He was getting steadily worse each day, and I had him humanely put down shortly thereafter.


Posted by jabrown on 11-28-2012 08:17 PM:

Copy the img code.

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Posted by Littletown on 11-28-2012 08:22 PM:

Hi, Janie -

I just went & saw the photo of your dog; he sure has a Coondog face, & I see what you mean about the brindle - though it just barely shows through on the face.

Thank you for posting his photo; he is very pretty !

Also - Thank you, jabrown, for posting the thread regarding photo uploading...


Posted by crossbblues on 11-28-2012 10:52 PM:

It could possibly be a red brindle plott...fearful aggression is a plott trait..they are generaly a one person dog...being passed around makes them. Do this..love...affection..time and plenty excercise..

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Posted by JustinH23 on 11-29-2012 01:10 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Gorfour
Sheesh! I was just trying to get some help. I thought this would be the place, to learn more about coonhounds and that maybe I was missing something. Yes I just signed up so I could ask yall what I should do with the dog because yall seem pretty experienced with coonhounds. I am no coon hunter I am a housewife who adopted a dog who was about to be put down.

Rusty is a great dog! Listen, I adopted this dog from an animal control in a town where a ton of people have and hunt coonhounds. I just thought, he might be trained? I don't know. You know how people take their labs to dock diving competitions just to see how they take to it? I thought coonhunting was maybe the same. Clearly I am wrong.

Rusty did awesome today, I ran him next to my bike and he has been a lot more manageable today. I definitely underestimated his energy, he ran a mile and half and didn't even break a sweat.

Thanks for the advice.



It's nothing personal. We just don't want to be used against ourselves. Good luck with your hound.

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Posted by sam kirkland on 11-29-2012 02:03 PM:

That looks like a young dog so chances are its probably not been trained for hunting.It does look like a full blooded hound. Maybe RedbonexPlott cross. He looks healthy and shiny tho.Good luck with him.

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