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Posted by Dgillihan on 04-08-2012 07:56 PM:

65 days and no pups

How can we help her have pups quicker?


Posted by Nat Thomas on 04-08-2012 07:58 PM:

Take a nap so you don't watch the clock! That will make it seem quicker.


Posted by chuck west on 04-08-2012 08:24 PM:

Re: 65 days and no pups

quote:
Originally posted by Dgillihan
How can we help her have pups quicker?
If it were my female she would be at the vets office now,,,might need to take the pups.


Posted by RED REBELS on 04-08-2012 09:30 PM:

Re: Re: 65 days and no pups

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Originally posted by chuck west
If it were my female she would be at the vets office now,,,might need to take the pups.

agree'd she could have one that is breached and so she cant deliver pups

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Posted by Cynthia on 04-08-2012 09:37 PM:

is she in labor?

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Posted by JORDAN LINGLE on 04-08-2012 09:58 PM:

Serious Problems:

If the mother fails to go into labor within twenty-four hours after her body temperature drops to below 100F you should take the dog to a veterinarian. Do this also if you have calculated that more than 69 days have passed since the dog was bred.

Some dogs will suffer milk failure or insufficient milk before their puppies are weaned. This occurs in older dogs as well as dogs that have another concurrent health problem such as eclampsia, mastitis or systemic disease. These dogs need to be taken directly to a veterinarian and the puppies should be supplemented or raised by hand. Signs that milk is inadequate are thin or lean puppies that cry consistently suck objects around them (or each other) and do not sleep.

It is normal for the mother to run a low fever during the two days after giving birth. I become concerned if the fever is over 102.8, if the dog is drinking excessive water or if she is depressed. These may all be signs of a retained placenta (or puppy) or a uterine infection.

It is normal for the dog to have a vaginal discharge following birthing. This discharge normally has rusty reddish or greenish brown appearance. I become concerned when the discharge is pus-like or has a strong odor. This can also be a sign of retained placenta and uterine infection (metritis). Normal cleansing of the uterus can last as long as eight weeks.

Normal mother dogs are bright, alert and attentive to their puppies. She should have a ravenous appetite as she converts metabolites to milk. I become concerned if the mother shows any signs of listlessness or depression. She also needs to visit a veterinarian if she is not attentive to her puppies.

Check the mother’s milk flow. It should flow with only the slightest of finger pressure.


Mastitis or Breast Infection:

The normal canine breasts of mother dogs are soft, warm and enlarged. They should never be red, hot, painful and hard. Hard painful breasts are signs of infection. Dogs with this condition are reluctant to let the puppies nurse and when they do little milk is produced. As soon as I identify a dog with this condition I remove the puppies and hand feed them. Hot packs on the affected breasts help draw down the infection. I place the mother dog on antibiotics and limit her water supply to dry up her milk as quickly as possible.

Eclampsia or Milk Fever:

Eclampsia is actually a glandular problem in which the parathyroid gland does not secrete sufficient calcium-releasing hormone. When it does occur, this problem happens just before or within 3-4 weeks after whelping. Milk fever is an acute, life-threatening condition. It is most common in small breeds with large litters. Mother dogs become disoriented, stiff, nervous and restless. They lose interest in her puppies. In severe cases they will have muscle spasms, seizures and be unable to walk. The mother may run a fever and have a rapid heart rate. . This problem results from low blood calcium as the mother’s body prepares to produce calcium-rich milk. I treat it by administering intravenous 10% calcium gluconate at 0.25-0.75ml/pound/hour. Affected dogs return to normal in fifteen minutes or less. Then I either wean the puppies or place the mother on a calcium supplement for the remainder of their lactation. Giving calcium supplements during pregnancy is not helpful and may actually cause the problem to reoccur during future pregnancies.

Hypoglycemia or Low Blood Sugar:

This condition is easily confused with eclampsia. It is primarily a problem in small breeds. The signs are disorientation, weakness, subnormal temperature and low blood sugar analysis. I treat it by administering intravenous dextrose solution. Recovery is very rapid. I often give some dextrose at the same time I treat with intravenous calcium for eclampsia since the two problems often occur together.

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Posted by john Duemmer on 04-08-2012 10:05 PM:

I wouldnt be rushing off to the vets. office to spend a bunch of money. I have had bitches that regularly went 67 or even 68 days. If she seems in distress for several hours it might be time for a vet, but if there are no signs of labor just relax and wait for nature to take its course.

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Posted by buffaloriver on 04-09-2012 01:08 AM:

I had a dog that always went to day 67 or 68 the main thing to watch is
1 is she still eating if so she is prob ok even if it is less than usual
2 temp has her temp dropped below 99 if so you will see pups soon
3 is she in distress panting pushing circling without any result for more than an hour or two
4 temp again is her temp over 102 if so she may have dead puppy in there and be getting an infection or she may be developing mastitis
I have welped well over 20 litters of pups for myself and other ppl also these are the main things I watch but sometimes you just know something just aint right the vet can try giving her oxytosin and large doses of calcium to get her contractions going if they feel it is time


Posted by Dgillihan on 04-09-2012 01:34 AM:

Last time I checkd she was just Laying around being lazy


Posted by EnglishBabe on 04-09-2012 03:02 AM:

If she is in no obvious distress, let her go. I have a dog that only ever whelped on her 63rd day 1 time out of 4 litters, the rest she ran anywhere from 65-70 days after first breeding. All healthy pups. I had a Rott that went 70 days from the 1 and only breeding and whelped 9 healthy pups. Taking her temp is the single biggest and easiest way to know where she is at. 99 degrees or below, should see pups within 12 hrs. temp. over 102 degrees, get to vet, most likely a pup has died and set up infection and you could lose her and the whole litter. If she is just laying around all sad eyed and droopy, she uncomfortable and wishes that it was over just as much as you. Put a leash on her and walk her for a bit, might get things moving.

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Posted by 8hawg on 04-09-2012 03:24 AM:

You could take her to the vet tomorrow. They can check with ultrasound to see if puppies heart beats are good. They can tell if they are in distress with the heart beats and make recommendations to you from there. I would highly recommend this.

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Posted by sidneyjames on 04-09-2012 04:24 AM:

if shes not in distress jus chill out my ol lilly dog went 66 days and and her and the pups are just fine.66days i know its makes you crazy but mother nature will get her done

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Posted by buffaloriver on 04-09-2012 12:00 PM:

carefull going to the vet this close to delivery unless you have to I took one of my girls there when her temp spiked at the time to have pups she was running 103 was worried about mastitis they first did an x ray to look at pups position then put her in a kennel waiting to do an ultrasound and some bloodwork told me to go to lunch came back we went in to check on her she had had two pups i got into that stall and sit with her delivered the other 9 babies vet was concerned these babies have no immunity until they ingest collostrum and no matter how well they clean the kennels in a vets office have a lot of diff. bacteria virus and protozoan . We took em home and watched em close thank goodness there was no ill effects . When we have had to do
C -section they want those pups home asap and out of the vets office for that exact same reason. this is why I don't rush up there unless I am sure it is the right thing to do for Mom and babies. (the Mamma dog was in early stages of mistitis we gave her some antibiotics and some remadyle pups drained her and she was fine within a day)


Posted by chuck west on 04-11-2012 10:08 PM:

BTT

Did you get your pups yet ??


Posted by sidneyjames on 04-12-2012 12:59 AM:

pups????????????????????????

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Posted by bluetick250 on 04-12-2012 01:51 AM:

take her to a vet i had one act normal and she did not dialate not good for her or the pups to be over to many days

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Posted by Dgillihan on 04-12-2012 04:51 PM:

She finally had 8 and man do they look good


Posted by BlueTickNC on 04-12-2012 05:05 PM:

I SHOULD BECOME A VET I SEE EVERYBODY WAS READY TO TAKE YOUR DOG TO THE VET LOL CONGRATS ON THE PUPS AND GOODLUCK

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Posted by Trey M on 04-12-2012 05:34 PM:

lets see some pictures!!!!!

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Posted by skeets on 04-13-2012 09:19 AM:

the ought to be treeing by now.lol


Posted by l.lyle on 04-13-2012 09:23 AM:

quote:
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the ought to be treeing by now.lol
Skeets!!??LOL


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