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Nipping issue at tree

First I want to make it clear this dog is not mean in any way shape or form but I have a issue with him when I pull him off the tree and want to know how to break him from it he acts like he gets overly excited at the tree and when you collar him to tie him back at the tree if your not careful he will nip you any opinions how to fix this he also Knaws at the tree

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When he nips at you make him wish he hadn't. Let him know that you are the boss and that you will not tolerate his nipping at you.

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Originally posted by Bill(Chew)
When he nips at you make him wish he hadn't. Let him know that you are the boss and that you will not tolerate his nipping at you.

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A hound can be trained to come to you with a tone or vibrate. I prefer vibrate. Get him to handle . Call him to you at the tree. Don't allow him to get back up on the tree. Either lead him out or show him the coon, No petting.

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Originally posted by blueticker
A hound can be trained to come to you with a tone or vibrate. I prefer vibrate. Get him to handle . Call him to you at the tree. Don't allow him to get back up on the tree. Either lead him out or show him the coon, No petting.

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Originally posted by Vic Stoll
I pretty closely follow this advice, I don't call the dog right off, but will speak the dogs name loudly several times to let he/she know I'm there. Then once I see the dog has acknowledged my presence by their body language, I will tell them "here" and handle them.

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That will keep you from getting nipped but will it stop the nipping? Stick your hand up next to their head and if they attempt to nip you then pop them. Progress to patting them on the head and shoulder. You don't want them to nip the dog next to them when they get too close. That is how a lot of fights get started. Order that book on tree agression.

A lot of this is caused by the Hunter. A dog that is an intense tree dog doesn't need someone to start rubbing and petting them up on the tree. Making them more excited and causing this issue. If the dog is as you say just overly excited when I went to handle him I would just let him know I was there and grab him by the collar and tie him back.

Ive seen plenty of them and its not something that is easy to break. Just smacking him on the head doesn't normally do anything. When an intense tree dog is treed they are so amped up that they are not going to notice any mild pain from you popping them on the head.

There are two different kinds that act like this. One is the one that is just excited to see you because he know the coon is about to come out. Walk up to the tree without saying a word and reach for his head. If he snaps at you the dog is not excited to see you. He is being defensive and will do the same thing to a dog. If he only does it while you are pulling him back or tie him then you can break him by calming him down as you are handling him. Take him by the collar and hold him still while you talk to him on the side of the tree. Make sure he has calmed down and then tie him. I have seen it work more than once. Once you get him to that point stop a few feet from him and make him come to you and keep him calm. None of this happens over night, it will take some work.

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Joey he only does this when you’re ready to pull him off the tree I do not pet him up at the tree although he is young he just gets amped up worst even calling his name as I’m going to put him on the lead he just gets more intense and doesn’t want me to pull him off I plan to put him in some hunts but I have to get this issue fixed before I do thanks for all the replies

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Sometimes that smacking him on the head can cause the problem you're talking about.

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Originally posted by dustin84
Joey he only does this when you’re ready to pull him off the tree I do not pet him up at the tree although he is young he just gets amped up worst even calling his name as I’m going to put him on the lead he just gets more intense and doesn’t want me to pull him off I plan to put him in some hunts but I have to get this issue fixed before I do thanks for all the replies

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Re: Nipping issue at tree

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Originally posted by dustin84
.... he also Knaws at the tree....

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yep

People when ya hunt dogs they need to know who the ALPHA of the pack is at all times !! the way they are handled makes all the difference !!

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Never Bite the hand that feeds you !! good old saying !! some allready knows !!

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I hunted a buddy's dog back in January to get him tuned up for a big hunt. That dog is an intense tree dog. You can't just walk up and grab him. If you do you'll be getting bit. What I did was stand directly behind the dog. Called his name until you see him look at you. Once he'd see you, you were fine to do whatever you wanted. Sometimes it took a few minutes for him to calm down some depending on how long he was treed for. Some dogs are worse than others. But if you work on calling his name. And having him come to you. Your chances dramatically decrease for the nipping or worse.

I have a male that was exactly like this and still has the potential to be if not handled right. As a few of you mentioned, I talk to him to get his attention before I handle him and also again before I go to unleash from the tree. He used to even get in front of me and grab at my Garmin or whatever I had hanging on me once we started to leave the tree if he was 100% confident that he had the coon- acting like he didn't want me to leave the tree. I started bumping him with the Alpha ( not saying a word) when he would do that and after a few times, he quit doing that. He actually handles good now at the tree but I continue to get his attention anyway because he a very radical tree dog and it probably wouldn't take much for him to go back the other way.

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I'm not sure everyone recognizes the difference in a dog that is jumping and nipping at you out of excitement and one that will nail another dog. One doing it out of excitement knows full well its you and is going to nip you while you are pulling him back if you call his name or not. One that after he knows its you and no longer nips isn't doing it out of excitement. He thinks he is defending himself and will do the same thing to a dog if it gets close.

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if smacking a dog didn't work it's probably cause you didn't smack him hard enough😉

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There are plenty of ways to deal with this without smacking the dog in the head. The dog is not being aggressive and trying too attack. There is a big difference between the two and how there handled. You can wade thru the post and use the information as you seem fit and good luck. It is something that is fairly common and easy enough to correct.