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Obedience Training? Good thing or Waste of time?

In my opinion, I believe if a hound can be trained to sit and lay down, then it shows that it will be worth training.

I also have had a man that I hunted with, that it's a waste of time and never to even pet your dogs, because they will get lazy.

What is your opinion?

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Of course it is not a waste.

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a well behaved dog is the best way to go. i work all my dogs as pups to sit, come, load, break to whistle, lead and have manners. no jumping up on people etc. you will have lots more fun hunting a dog that you have a handle on.

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i like em to walk out of the woods beside me .others on a lead being drug all over,, thats when it pays off jmo

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Lance White
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obedience

I've been thinking about my young pup and how I need to work with him on his leading and general obediance. I have hunted plenty of young dogs that had no manners and they are no fun to hunt. As a matter of fact it can be alot like work when a young dog is pulling and yanking you around. I guess I have failed at this in the past, but I don't intend to on this one. I'd like to give him a little lesson on leading everyday, practice loading, and make him learn that it's not okay to jump on people.

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and don't forget to come when called..........that is a big one for me. shockers will help that, but when they learn to come on their own with out having a electric jolt its priceless.

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I've trained my english pup to sit, come, lead (a little), and not jump on people.

I like to think he's smart considering he was only 10 weeks when I taught him sit and come.

He's pretty sharp. Hopefully he ability to learn will carry over into training.

Also, he doesn't bark around the house.

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Originally posted by amazingcursouth
and don't forget to come when called..........that is a big one for me. shockers will help that, but when they learn to come on their own with out having a electric jolt its priceless.

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can you call them off a bad track or when they close to a road. if my dogs can hear me they will come unless they are treed.

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Originally posted by EthanMorton
A dog has to like you to come to you. I just have to whistle at mine and they'll come.

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My dog can be called off a bad track, hot track, a tree he has just treed hot on, a tree he has been on for three hours, does not matter. If I can get to where he can hear me, and at times I may have to get a little aggressive with my hollering, he will come to me.
I do not lead him to the truck when leaving to go hunting and I do not lead him to the kennel when I return home. I do not care if I have a dog that trees every coon in the woods and does it right, if he does not listen and desire to please me, we are not going to get along real well.
Looking at coons my dog has treed is great fun but it is not half as important to me as how well he minds!
I hunt with a guy that when you have to drive around to his dog to get in ear shot of it, if he trys to call her out she goes exactly the way she come in there back to where she was dropped to begin with. Even though you may have only been a couple hundred yards from her. That comes from not working with the dog at home like you should be!

obedience training hell ya

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if you are suppose to handle your dog why not teach it
that way?i would say its a lot easier to throw the lead
on the ground and bump it and still never handle the dog.

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Aim small miss small

Any training wether obedience or hunting only adds to your hounds intelligence? An intelligent animal is better than having a dumb one anyday. The more you exercise his/her intellect the better dog you will have. Just my opinion but am like most have commented, I won't own a hound unless it exhibits intelligence.

JOSH EYE
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I do obedience before anything. My dog has to come when called. Why should hounds be any different from the bird dogs or retrieving dogs. Obedience comes before hunting in my book.

See I was raised with deerdogs. The best could be relied on to take a deertrack in the dirtroad and trail that deer from the night before because that is back when deer were kind of scarce.... It better be a big drive though or else those dogs might trail Clean across the whole drive before they jumped. These were generally the houndier looking dogs.
The next praised was the Jump Dogs. They could start to open as the track got better and the traildogs would boo around when the buck had jumped into a briar patch to bed down for the day. They could jump him up and take him for a ride.

The next type was RIP Dogs. Mostly mongrelized that were consssssidered Hot Nosed but would hang near the Driver while the others were gone out of hearing trailing. These kept the driver honest and working the thickets for a Driver wants to get a big Buck too. Rip dogs could be considered the ones that doo the winding of a bedded deer and charge in and jump him so quick he would jump out of bed ssssso high that the Driver could dash forth and put the whole oad in his neck on the way down and if he missed it would be the semisilent Rip dogs that brought most of the deer to the standers. with their heads up and clocking 30 miles an hour. Now for you deerhunters that want to play big game Naturalist Organic shoot a rat in the corncrib types , this ain't probably to your liking . But as a deer dog hunter that had shot alot of Doves and Ducks The old timers would take us kids aside and say" do Not lead them . They realy ai'nt going that fast , just shoot at the head.

Anyway, my point being about Obedience, These dogs did not know Comehyar from Sickem. None of them but they had their niche and it took a pack of the different kinds to realy have a successful hunt.

I remember watching a friend load dogs in the box to go deer hunting with. One guy would catch a dog and hand him off to another guy at the pen to stuff in the dog box that was hay wired together across the top of the truck bed. Directly the box started to swell out and the dog stuffer kept stuffing and the box kept expanding. Directictly I caught the dog stuffer trying to put another dog in the box and his thumb slid right up a dogs Rectum. He said" "hang on, I think we got enough". But I saw it anyway and he ain't lived it down 30 years later.

Coondogs on the otherhand around here have always been able to be talked to and comehyar and loadup and those kinds of things. That's why the very best deerdogs were worth 65 $ and a coondog was worth 2500$ back in those days.

it is a lot easier to get in and out of the woods with a dog that leads well. my english is taught to sit lie and crawl. the crawl commands works really well to get under fences. we have to go through the pastures to get to the woods so he is taught this. makes it a lot easier especially with eletric fence. for fun my daughter also taught him to play dead. he's good at that.
my walker/bluetick cross sits, lies and crawls. she'll also give you a hi five. out in the woods she's all business.
any smart dog can learn simple commands. and i think any animal will do better for you if you have a bond with it.

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DOG OBEDIENCE TRAINING

Of course it won't be a waste of time, every dog going trough the behavioral obedient classes such as dog obedience training NH will surely emerge as loyal and behaved man's best friend.