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Line breeding

Is it line breeding or inbreeding if you breed grand father to grand daughter?

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It would be inbreeding if it were mother to son, father daughter, direct siblings ( same sire & dam ) IMO anyway.

Line Breeding

Line Breeding and it works.

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Line breeding and it works when breeding the right dogs...

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Training dogs is not so much about quantity, it's more about timing, and the right situations...After that it's up to the dog....A hunting dog is born...

It's line breeding if it works.
Inbreeding if it doesn't.

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X2 on making sure the line breeding is based

On a strong balanced dominant DNA reproducing dog. Then and only then Line breed.
I can only name about ,5 or 6 breeders in the country that's doing it right. Generation after Generation.

Go look at John Monroe's "Style" dog who's kin to the 3m drifter dog I introduced on this board a few years ago. They get more pups to the litter doing it right than most any stud dog owner.
Dennis McDowells Drifter dog and Mr. Poor Boy kennel himself. Randy Singleton. He just made a cross from a semen dog called Sid that's a grandson to old Spring Creek Radar. My all time favorite stud.
Hobo and Mike Shannon are a couple more that have done it right. They are hunting decendents of crosses they made years and generations ago.

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Re: X2 on making sure the line breeding is based

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Originally posted by cripple creek
On a strong balanced dominant DNA reproducing dog. Then and only then Line breed.
I can only name about ,5 or 6 breeders in the country that's doing it right. Generation after Generation.

Go look at John Monroe's "Style" dog who's kin to the 3m drifter dog I introduced on this board a few years ago. They get more pups to the litter doing it right than most any stud dog owner.
Dennis McDowells Drifter dog and Mr. Poor Boy kennel himself. Randy Singleton. He just made a cross from a semen dog called Sid that's a grandson to old Spring Creek Radar. My all time favorite stud.
Hobo and Mike Shannon are a couple more that have done it right. They are hunting decendents of crosses they made years and generations ago.

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Training dogs is not so much about quantity, it's more about timing, and the right situations...After that it's up to the dog....A hunting dog is born...

Re: X2 on making sure the line breeding is based

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Originally posted by cripple creek
On a strong balanced dominant DNA reproducing dog. Then and only then Line breed.
I can only name about ,5 or 6 breeders in the country that's doing it right. Generation after Generation.

Go look at John Monroe's "Style" dog who's kin to the 3m drifter dog I introduced on this board a few years ago. They get more pups to the litter doing it right than most any stud dog owner.
Dennis McDowells Drifter dog and Mr. Poor Boy kennel himself. Randy Singleton. He just made a cross from a semen dog called Sid that's a grandson to old Spring Creek Radar. My all time favorite stud.
Hobo and Mike Shannon are a couple more that have done it right. They are hunting decendents of crosses they made years and generations ago.

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Training dogs is not so much about quantity, it's more about timing, and the right situations...After that it's up to the dog....A hunting dog is born...

Yes sir...you're right.

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2016 Miss. State Gr. Show CH.
Overall Miss. State Show CH.
Grand Champion Stevenson's "Johnny Jet,"

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Palms 18:39........You armed me with strength for battle; you made my adversaries bow at my feet!
Two questions sum up life....
Why am I here ? And Where am I headed.

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Can anyone explain how its NOT inbreeding please?
If Im reading it correctly a grandpa breeds his daughters daughter. Ive always seen it as Inbreeding.Just lookin for info not bashing anyone or tryin to stir $hit.

Thanks

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How do you know?

Mother to son, Father to daughter, Sister to Brother is inbreeding. UKC use to stamp the papers "INBRED" (Maybe they still do, I don't know). Couldn't miss it. It was a big stamp. Anything more distant related didn't get the stamp.

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Here's the top side of a perfect line bred hound

https://flic.kr/p/23bvX1A

This John Monroe's stud Style.
You can thank Randy Singleton and Dennis McDowell for breeding these hounds for over 20-30 years.
This is how you do it.

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Grand Champion Stevenson's "Little Bone Peep"
2016 Miss. State Gr. Show CH.
Overall Miss. State Show CH.
Grand Champion Stevenson's "Johnny Jet,"

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Palms 18:39........You armed me with strength for battle; you made my adversaries bow at my feet!
Two questions sum up life....
Why am I here ? And Where am I headed.

I'll post the bottom side tomorrow.

If you ever wanted a model to study as a breeder, then study this one.
I'll be adding some of this to my line in the spring.

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Grand Champion Stevenson's "Little Bone Peep"
2016 Miss. State Gr. Show CH.
Overall Miss. State Show CH.
Grand Champion Stevenson's "Johnny Jet,"

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Palms 18:39........You armed me with strength for battle; you made my adversaries bow at my feet!
Two questions sum up life....
Why am I here ? And Where am I headed.

B&t, Take the human side and thinking out completely.
You are dealing with animals and trying to keep a family line and family traits, of a certain line. The only way to do it is close breeding.
People who don't breed dogs allot think it is weird, but in all dog breeds it is just a tool to get your line where you want it.
Every time you breed outside blood you are changing the results of what you are getting, if you don't like what you have, then outcross may be the tool that a person needs to use.

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Striving to breed balanced Treeing Walkers.

"Life is short boys, Hunt an intelligent hound"

Born in sin, convicted by the Word, saved by Grace.

Cooner---

January 2018 page 79

Styles pedigree --- easy to read and study

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OLD TIMER

Bottom side

https://flic.kr/p/23d7cKS

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Grand Champion Stevenson's "Little Bone Peep"
2016 Miss. State Gr. Show CH.
Overall Miss. State Show CH.
Grand Champion Stevenson's "Johnny Jet,"

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Palms 18:39........You armed me with strength for battle; you made my adversaries bow at my feet!
Two questions sum up life....
Why am I here ? And Where am I headed.

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Originally posted by jrw
It's line breeding if it works.
Inbreeding if it doesn't.

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