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Posted by Randy Tallon on 03-11-2013 11:45 PM:

Explain this...

Obama is actually giving entitlements to illegals while he cuts my military benefits.... Somebody please tell me the sanity behind this.

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Posted by toejam on 03-12-2013 12:09 AM:

Cut military benefits,disban the military,disarm the nation,open the doors to illegals and give them more rights than citizens that have served their country with more than 20yrs of their life-LOOKS PRETTY D@$ CLEAR CUT TO ME !!!!!!!

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Posted by billy doyce on 03-12-2013 12:55 AM:

Re: Explain this...

quote:
Originally posted by Randy Tallon
Obama is actually giving entitlements to illegals while he cuts my military benefits.... Somebody please tell me the sanity behind this.

What is give to the poor of this country, both legal and illegal, which is a must, is only a drop in the bucket of the real ones that ripping off the gov. and it is not a must. Please take time to read this whole link and read it slow, let it sink in, give it a little thought and then reply.

http://socialistworker.org/2013/02/...rporate-welfare

Posted by Randy Tallon on 03-12-2013 01:25 AM:

Explain to me where that socialist mentality plays in with denying the men and women that keep this country free their promised benefits and giving entitlements to people NOT OF THIS COUNTRY.

Posted by Bob Hennessey on 03-12-2013 02:29 AM:

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Originally posted by billy doyce
What is give to the poor of this country, both legal and illegal, which is a must, is only a drop in the bucket of the real ones that ripping off the gov. and it is not a must. Please take time to read this whole link and read it slow, let it sink in, give it a little thought and then reply.

http://socialistworker.org/2013/02/...rporate-welfare

Have you always been a Socialist? The article is the usual Socialist line that the corporations are bad. Business is bad. The government is going to take of everyone. Yah right!

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Posted by STAGGCREEKFARM on 03-12-2013 03:34 PM:

Complaining about funding for agriculture is idiotic. I can see that by looking at the numbers in the article, the amount of funding could be alarming. The " 3.8% of "farmers" receive 75% of funding" is misleading. The article doesn't tell if those 3.8% of farmers produce 75% of agriculture. The term "corporation farming" is also unfair. Whether you farm 200 acres or 200,000 acres, your still farming. The cost of production and risk of failure is there for both types of farmers, but the ones farming 200,000 acres has a 1000 times more expense and risk. Why shouldn't they receive 1000 times more support?

A man that works a 40 hr a week public job knows that he will get paid and how much. A farmer puts his time and money into his work, not knowing his return. He's gambling with mother nature for his and his family's future. Some years the funding a farmer receives means he made a profit that year. Some years that funding helps him maybe break even. I will bet there aren't many atheist farmers either.

Most people see fuel as a necessity now a days and are having to budget their money to afford it. What if the food you survive on quadrupled in price? With out government funding, you could expect food prices to become unaffordable.

Did you know that one of the biggest "entitlement " programs is run through the US Department of Agriculture? FOOD STAMPS

Posted by E Hartenstein on 03-12-2013 04:15 PM:

Sanity

Randy, in my opinion you asked for the impossible. How can anyone in there right mind make sense of our Government spending!

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Posted by K. Singletary on 03-12-2013 07:29 PM:

Re: Re: Explain this...

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Originally posted by billy doyce
What is give to the poor of this country, both legal and illegal, which is a must, is only a drop in the bucket of the real ones that ripping off the gov. and it is not a must. Please take time to read this whole link and read it slow, let it sink in, give it a little thought and then reply.

http://socialistworker.org/2013/02/...rporate-welfare

If the corporations take their ball and go home, where are the tax payers going to come from that support the poor. Those corporations employ people with nice salaries, who pay federal taxes, state taxes, and sales taxes. Without those corporations, there are no tax payers and there is no America.

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Posted by robgregory on 03-12-2013 07:42 PM:

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Originally posted by K. Singletary
If the corporations take their ball and go home, where are the tax payers going to come from that support the poor. Those corporations employ people with nice salaries, who pay federal taxes, state taxes, and sales taxes. Without those corporations, there are no tax payers and there is no America.

Very well said.And also makes perfect sense.It has worked for this country from it's conception.So why do these Liberals wanna throw a monkey wrench into a system that has worked well for 235 years?Makes no frickin' sense to me.
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Posted by headless01 on 03-12-2013 08:21 PM:

REVENGE,they want to divide and conquer, thats how they are going to gain control. samething brought down the roman empire only this time it is being done intentionally for that purpose.

Posted by SoShadow on 03-12-2013 08:39 PM:

read saul alinsky's 'rules for radicals', game plan for progressives to tear down the capitalist system in america.

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Posted by billy doyce on 03-12-2013 10:38 PM:

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by K. Singletary
If the corporations take their ball and go home, where are the tax payers going to come from that support the poor. Those corporations employ people with nice salaries, who pay federal taxes, state taxes, and sales taxes. Without those corporations, there are no tax payers and there is no America. [/QUOTE

Come on now. Do you really believe that if ExMo had to pay their fair share of taxes on billions of dollars a quarter that they would close doors. This brings to mind of some old timers like J. C. Penny and R. G. LeTourneau that paid all their dues and still made millions. Course that might have been the time before all these tax loop holes that Obama wants to close. Oh did you know that Rommney ran on the idea of closing the loops holes for the rich and now the Repubs are against it.

Posted by Wingman66 on 03-13-2013 12:30 AM:

quote:
Complaining about funding for agriculture is idiotic. I can see that by looking at the numbers in the article, the amount of funding could be alarming. The " 3.8% of "farmers" receive 75% of funding" is misleading. The article doesn't tell if those 3.8% of farmers produce 75% of agriculture. The term "corporation farming" is also unfair. Whether you farm 200 acres or 200,000 acres, your still farming. The cost of production and risk of failure is there for both types of farmers, but the ones farming 200,000 acres has a 1000 times more expense and risk. Why shouldn't they receive 1000 times more support?

A man that works a 40 hr a week public job knows that he will get paid and how much. A farmer puts his time and money into his work, not knowing his return. He's gambling with mother nature for his and his family's future. Some years the funding a farmer receives means he made a profit that year. Some years that funding helps him maybe break even. I will bet there aren't many atheist farmers either.

Most people see fuel as a necessity now a days and are having to budget their money to afford it. What if the food you survive on quadrupled in price? With out government funding, you could expect food prices to become unaffordable.

Did you know that one of the biggest "entitlement " programs is run through the US Department of Agriculture? FOOD STAMPS

I'm gonna step out on a limb and say you are probably a farmer lol.

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Posted by Randy Tallon on 03-13-2013 01:11 AM:

You libbies that have healthcare now better check the new Obamacare package. Spouses are NOT considered dependents in the new reform. You may also be asked to pay 9% for your benefits. How do you like that socialist now? The federal law that goes into play in January of 2014 supercedes any collective bargaing agreement. How do you like him now!!!!!!!

Posted by T.Beyer on 03-13-2013 01:45 AM:

Yay more unmarried families. One more reason for a man not to step up and take responsibility for his family.

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Posted by Diggerman on 03-13-2013 02:01 AM:

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Originally posted by billy doyce
[QUOTE]Originally posted by K. Singletary
If the corporations take their ball and go home, where are the tax payers going to come from that support the poor. Those corporations employ people with nice salaries, who pay federal taxes, state taxes, and sales taxes. Without those corporations, there are no tax payers and there is no America. [/QUOTE

Come on now. Do you really believe that if ExMo had to pay their fair share of taxes on billions of dollars a quarter that they would close doors. This brings to mind of some old timers like J. C. Penny and R. G. LeTourneau that paid all their dues and still made millions. Course that might have been the time before all these tax loop holes that Obama wants to close. Oh did you know that Rommney ran on the idea of closing the loops holes for the rich and now the Repubs are against it.

Dude, no income goes untaxed.Taxing corporations is just a smoke screen.Profits from corporations go to its investors,those investors pay the income tax.Its really simple unless you need a common enemy to rally your bleeding heart liberals around.Think of it like this,regular IRA or Roth IRA.

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Posted by JustinH23 on 03-15-2013 07:00 PM:

Are you talking about cutting tuition assistance for military, while tuition assistance is now better for illegal immigrants?

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Posted by Randy Tallon on 03-15-2013 07:53 PM:

He's made major cuts in the medical benefits.

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