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Posted by John M. Horner on 12-16-2008 12:48 AM:

? on Lipper's Hardwood Gun

Anybody have a picture and his pedigree?What type of dog was he,track style,tree syle?

Posted by smokin-1-mo on 12-16-2008 04:37 AM:

JOHN

GUN WAS A VERY GOOD LOOKIN DOG .........REX SIMS COULD FIND YOU HIS PICTURE AND PEDIGREE........BRED GOOD THE BEST I CAN REMEMBER......NOT MUCH HELP....I REMEMBER MAC OWNED HIM FOR A LITTLE WHILE.........

Posted by coondog charlie on 12-16-2008 12:41 PM:

John; I was always told that he was a bawl mouth tree dog and he threw some bawl mouth tree dogs as well. I had a female out of him and that's the way she was. She was easy to start and had loud mouth. I never hunted with him, myself, so can't tell you for sure. Best of luck; Charlie Radtke

Posted by Tardawg on 12-16-2008 12:52 PM:

Hardwood Gun was out of Lipper and Gr. Nite Ch. Wells' Oklahoma Queen. He had a good Bawl mouth on track with a short Bawl to chop on the tree. He was a good looking dog. I have hunted with him several times. I do think that he was a better reproducer than he was a coon dog. He never was very impressive in the woods the times that I hunted with him. I do not want to sound negative towards the dog, but if you want the truth..........then here it is, and know that I have hunted with him possibly more than anyone. Alan Kalal

Posted by Christy on 12-16-2008 02:00 PM:

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---------------------NITECH CH KAW RIVER CHIEF
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---------------------'PR' TINSLEYS KANSAS TESS
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---------------------GRNITECH COX DEEP R BAWLING BOWSER
---------------NITECH 'PR' KENTUCKY JUDY
---------------------ALLMON'S SALLY
-----GRNITECH GRCH 'PR' HOUSE'S LIPPER
---------------------CH NITECH HOUSES CHIEF
---------------GRNITECH SHIVES GOLDHILL TOM
---------------------SHIVES GOLD HILL QUEEN
----------'PR' HOUSE'S QUEEN LOU
---------------------NITECH STAN'S SAILOR JUNIOR
---------------NITECH SHIVES GOLDHILL LOU
---------------------WRIGHT'S SUE
GRNITECH GRCH LIPPER'S HARDWOOD GUN
---------------------NITECH CH SPRING CREEK C.B
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---------------------WILLOW SLOUGH KATE
----------GRCH GRNITECH CLIFTON'S RIVER ROCK
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---------------KNOB CREEK ROSE
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-----CH GRNITECH WELL'S OKLAHOMA QUEEN
---------------------GRNITECH MASTERSONS KNOB CRK LEAD
'---------------PR' DRUMMOND KNOB CR. JACK
---------------------'PR' KNOB CREEK LADY CH
----------GRNITECH 'PR' GLADD'S LEADING LADY
---------------------GRNITECH GRCH 'PR' GOLD CREEK MUNDO
---------------'PR' WOOD'S GOLD CR. MOLLIE
---------------------HOWARD'S SPAVANO QUEEN

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Posted by John M. Horner on 12-16-2008 03:06 PM:

Thanks this has been very helpful oh Gun is in Cornell's bottom side of pedigree.Tardawg I had heard that before that he was a better reproducer than flashy coondog.I sure was glad to see that Spring Creek Rock too.I was always a fan of dogs out of him in the early eighties.Cornell tree's like ole Lipper crouching down real low on the tree.I didn't even realize where that style came from and till Ronnie Smith seen him tree.Genetics are a funy thing how they come out and show thereselves!!

Posted by Brandon Gudgeon on 12-16-2008 06:05 PM:

My two females go back to Gun. Could've been great except I got them when I was still in college so they're just now getting the time in the woods they needed a long time ago. Still great tree dogs, the one female is able to wind them really well. Like they almost have too good of noses for their own good.

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Posted by Brandon Gudgeon on 12-16-2008 06:07 PM:

if you wanna see Gun's pedigree go to www.worldclassbreeder.com. It's an outstanding website.

Posted by Jeff M. on 12-16-2008 10:38 PM:

If I'm not mistaken Alan had something to do with this cross. Or maybe he was just a delivery man. I was sure it was him that I got Gun and a littermate female from at Autumn Oaks as little pups for Shane Maxey. Anyway I hunted with Gun when he treed his first coon, hunted him in some Nite Ch casts and just coonhunted him until Shane sold him to Elden Grizzle as a 2 yr. old
And I would agree with Alans description he had a good mouth, could tree a coon, beautiful dog, but could stand on his head and wallow a track with the best off them. Here's a picture of me and Gun and a couple other hounds after a hunt a long time ago. He was just around a yr. old then.

Hardwood Gun, Lippers Toby, Bandit, Jan. 1990,
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Posted by Jill on 12-16-2008 10:53 PM:

We had a nice dual grand male out of Gun.

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Posted by Tardawg on 12-16-2008 10:53 PM:

Jeff M......you are 100% right, I was not the delivery man, I was the person that made the cross between Lipper and Oklahoma Queen when I owned her. Shane did buy two of the pups, Gun was nothing flashy at all, but I have seen better young dogs out of him then I have seen Gun himself do in the woods. Again, I am not trying to be on the negative side, heck like I said I was the breeder, just answering Mr. Horner's question. Jeff, I am glad you have seen the same out of him that I have, I knew it could not of been all bad nights, lol......Alan Kalal

Posted by jay brademeyer on 12-17-2008 04:36 AM:

we had a littermate sister to gun. i made her a ntch . but she was about as comon as she could be. she rased a nice bunch of pups off kicker. one made grnt

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Posted by John M. Horner on 12-17-2008 04:46 AM:

It sounds like they all reproduced better than they were.Kind of like Rat Attack!!

Posted by smokin-1-mo on 12-17-2008 06:16 AM:

WHAT EVER HAPPEN TO SHANE MAXEY............

Posted by Jeff M. on 12-18-2008 03:53 AM:

Smokin'
Shane got on at the local GM plant sold his last dog Outlaw Billy the Kid (redbone) to a man in missouri and hasn't set foot in the woods ever since probably 10 plus years now. I stop by and see him about once a year. Always says he's gonna bring his son and go huntin' but I never get the call. He was the best pup trainer I've ever seen. Besides some no-name local talent he also raised from pups and finished out Hardwood Gun, Wild Thunder ( Wild Clyde's daddy) Outlaw Timber Girl, Outlaw Billy the Kid in about a 6 year span. And also handled and studded many others, Logans Wild Quick, Wessels Wild Casey, Keys Outlaw Jessie to name a few.

Posted by Hoosier Outlaw on 06-10-2010 11:35 PM:

Hey Jeff, Im still around. Wouldn't you know that I find this site and one of the first things I see on here is you braggin on me...lol

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Posted by ~MIKE WRIGHT~ on 10-16-2010 05:26 AM:

''''''' SHANE MAXEY were have you been my old friend... I still have the Mitey Max you gave me in 1994....

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Posted by Hoosier Outlaw on 11-14-2010 08:03 PM:

Hey Mike, glad to see that old squaller is still working for you. I haven't had a dog or been to the woods since a had to sell Billy the Kid and Timber girl. My old hunting buddy and training partner Jeff Minniear got to talking about old times and now I'm starting to get the itch again...so who knows, but I might see you around in the future. I perfected a couple new squaller designs right before I quit hunting, but they never went into production. Maybe I will have to dig out some of those prototypes and crank a few out! If I do I'll make sure you get one of the first ones. With squallers around the necks of guys like you....who needs to advertize! I still got some semen from Billy that I had collected when he was almost 2 yrs old so you may just see me leading BTK-2 someday if I can find the right female and can get a good pup from the cross. Take it easy Mike, and keep on winning with those red dogs!....Shane Maxey

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