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Posted by coonhunter00 on 03-21-2015 03:53 PM:

Uncle/neice cross

How many uncle/neice crosses have any of you all made or know of with good result ? Or is it to close for comfort ? Debating on making a cross with my old dog out of screwey lewey x uchtmans polkie and my gyp that is out of jobe x uchtmans Magic next fall. Thanks for any input !

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Posted by Driftwoodblue on 03-21-2015 11:07 PM:

several done...

I have done that type several times over the years. for the most part, it is pretty good.. with the hounds behind Screwy Lewey. i see no reason why it would not work..
one thing sure you will never know unless you try.

Posted by Tom Jones on 03-23-2015 09:19 PM:

russ bellar of walker fame. look at his breedings and you will see he likes aunt to nephew crosses. he has probably lead more wrld champns then anybody

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Posted by BigContry on 03-23-2015 09:24 PM:

Never done it, but I would sure would like a puppy out of that cross. PM me if you make it please.

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Posted by John Carroll on 03-23-2015 11:50 PM:

I have hunted with a whole bunch of the dogs behind the two you are thinking of crossing.

It ought to work.

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Posted by rance56 on 03-24-2015 12:59 AM:

i think it matters more about the individual specimens than it does that that they are uncle niece

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Posted by John Carroll on 03-24-2015 01:14 PM:

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i think it matters more about the individual specimens than it does that that they are uncle niece

Absolutely.

But when you breed that close, it pays to know something about their background too.

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Posted by Vic Stoll on 03-24-2015 05:40 PM:

Re: Uncle/neice cross

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Originally posted by coonhunter00
How many uncle/neice crosses have any of you all made or know of with good result ? Or is it to close for comfort ? Debating on making a cross with my old dog out of screwey lewey x uchtmans polkie and my gyp that is out of jobe x uchtmans Magic next fall. Thanks for any input !

As has already been mentioned, all good & bad traits will be intensified.

Some negative I have seen & experienced with such crosses is quirkiness & medical/physical issues.

Example of Quirkiness: Dogs that are subject to sull up & not operate/hunt with other unfamiliar dogs/humans present.

Example of Medical Issues: Hypothyroidism & allergies.

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Posted by drummerblue on 03-24-2015 05:57 PM:

breeding

I wouldn't be scared of that cross at all I think if you wanted to do some pedigree study you will fiend that cross has Ben done with good result's in that bloodline

Posted by jason2579 on 03-30-2015 12:26 AM:

There is a bluetick breeder that has been doing this type of crosses for awhile. You can see his line of breeding always around the top or at the top of the winner circle often. For me personally it's always been 1 of my favorite crosses to make or get a pup out of. Good luck.

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Posted by coonhunter00 on 03-30-2015 01:49 AM:

Thanks for all input. Hopefully the cross gets made this fall. She will be little over 2 and he will be 10.

Posted by coonhunter00 on 04-04-2015 02:18 AM:

Picked up A new gyp today. "uchtmans blue rose" (zeb x Dixie)from Dale Adkins in Fort Gay, WV. Hopefully I get her bred to my old rock dog (screwey lewey x polkie) when she comes in heat. Would like to thank George Jeffers and Dale Adkins for making it possible for me to get her. Picked her up from Dales home this evening and he is a world class guy.

Posted by John Carroll on 04-04-2015 06:10 AM:

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Originally posted by coonhunter00
Picked up A new gyp today. "uchtmans blue rose" (zeb x Dixie)from Dale Adkins in Fort Gay, WV. Hopefully I get her bred to my old rock dog (screwey lewey x polkie) when she comes in heat. Would like to thank George Jeffers and Dale Adkins for making it possible for me to get her. Picked her up from Dales home this evening and he is a world class guy.

Rose is a nice female.

Congratulations.

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Posted by coonhunter00 on 04-04-2015 08:21 PM:

Pics of the hounds

Rock (screwey lewey x polkie)

Ally (jobe x magic)

Rose (zeb x Dixie)

Posted by Gary Napier II on 04-04-2015 11:25 PM:

Rock x Rose
Good luck with the cross. It should be good.

Posted by Wayne Valentino on 04-04-2015 11:35 PM:

Ya know

we all plan and hope on these crosses trying to line up the strong traits we want to intensify and strenthen. I think you have a made a wise choice. Good luck. I have researched a lot of successful uncle/ niece crosses. They all seem to show a common strong reproducing female through the pedigree that puts her stamp on them !!

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Posted by coonhunter00 on 04-05-2015 01:06 AM:

I'm hoping so. Rock has only been crossed 1 time. And I only know where 2 of the pups went to. Both will run and tree their own coon according to owners and are 1 year old. From what I have read Rose is a good reproducer and I look forward to trying to get them crossed. And Ally will not be bred to him til age 2 and it would be the uncle / niece cross. Maybe out of either cross I will find my Rock 2 hahaha.

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