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I have a 17 month who is treeing, hunted mostly alone. He barks 70-80 a minute on most trees. However on colder trees he is spending more time jumping, not on the tree but up and down and only barking 30-40 barks. I've leashed him and pulled him down and it helps, but I need it fixed. Help is appreciated, I want to thank you now before trying to answer every response. Thank you!

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Originally posted by erlandcooner
I have a 17 month who is treeing, hunted mostly alone. He barks 70-80 a minute on most trees. However on colder trees he is spending more time jumping, not on the tree but up and down and only barking 30-40 barks. I've leashed him and pulled him down and it helps, but I need it fixed. Help is appreciated, I want to thank you now before trying to answer every response. Thank you!

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I always wait 5minutes, if I'm with other people I'll score him last. Average 15-20 minutes. Sometimes longer, I'm getting him ready for comp. Hunts. But even in his kennel he is always jumping, I've had him from 8 weeks old. His Mom did the same thing and got out of it. He is usually by himself, but if not I know that can cause problems.

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Originally posted by erlandcooner
I always wait 5minutes, if I'm with other people I'll score him last. Average 15-20 minutes. Sometimes longer, I'm getting him ready for comp. Hunts. But even in his kennel he is always jumping, I've had him from 8 weeks old. His Mom did the same thing and got out of it. He is usually by himself, but if not I know that can cause problems.

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Ive never tried this, but I’ve heard folks talk about clipping a short chain with a padlock on the end of it to their collar. Dog gets to jumping and that padlock gets to slinging around and knocking them in the head, they quit jumping. Makes sense to me. It would be worth a try.

so when he trees a hot track he doesnt jump? an one that hes not quite sure about he jumps but not on the tree? sounds like a confidence thing to me, i would pet him up an see if he will tree like he does on hot tracks, he is still a young dog trying to figure things out, now if hes jacking the tree an you want to comp hunt better get a game plan on how to stop it, ive only had 1 tree jacker in my life she finished to grand but she almost got alot of dogs scrached, she would back off the tree once she fell on another dog an caused a rucus, by the time we got there she would be sitting down 5 feet away, that being said ill not try to hunt another jacker causes to many problems even if the jacker doesnt have a mean bone.

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Thanks to everyone, I'm gonna try the padlock thing, I'm concerned about it getting hung on a fence. Yes Jake it is on mostly trees he isn't sure about. And it is always just up in the air not on the tree.

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Thanks to everyone, I'm gonna try the padlock thing, I'm concerned about it getting hung on a fence. Yes Jake it is on mostly trees he isn't sure about. And it is always just up in the air not on the tree.

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I wouldn't do the padlock.

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First off.....Don't do the Padlock thing, it can do more harm than good in regards to hurting him.
On the Colder tree's.....does he have a Coon ?
All you can do is start putting a short lead strap on him at the tree to keep him from Jumping....but give him room to stand on the tree.
Keep us updated.
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The padlock I'm not doing, I didn't put not in the earlier message. The chain or rope could cause problems with getting caught up. Also many of you warned against it. I'll probably spend more time at tree and correct there. Thanks

Jacking may be a genetic thing, and it may be inadvertently encouraged by hanging game just out of reach or messing with a caged coon with pups. I think the padlock thing is supposed to be applied when you get to the tree, not when you turn them loose. And some guys work on this with a caged coon, so they control the situation. But I still wouldn’t recommend it. I actually had pretty good luck with just tying a dog low and short every time he made a tree, and letting him tree for awhile. He’d still jack some, but not nearly as bad. Consistency is key here.

You ever watch a dog come onto a tree where scent is difficult, a lot will try and stretch as high as possible, I wonder if that's what he's trying to accomplish?

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treeing style is genetic , too hard to change , get use to it or get a different dog

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I appreciate all of the information so far. The trees he does the jumping on , I usually don't find anything, or they are den trees. Update I hunted him alone last night. He made 3 trees, all had Raccoons in them he was 80-90 barks, I tied him short and petted him while on tree, spent way more than usual time at the tree. He did try to jump some but very little. One tree I had to stand on his lead very short just enough to tree on the tree. To answer one reply, yes his Mother acted the same way, even in the kennel, and as she got 2 years of age she settled into a nice tree dog and stopped jumping. Thanks all I'll keep updates, he'll be hunting tonight.

im sure there are some that will disagree, but a dog that jumps on to the tree, i dont consider jacking, imo a dog that jacks a tree jumps so high that another dog can move an get hit when the dog comes down, the jacker i had could jump so high her head would be over her pen, which was 6 ft, ive had lots of dogs that feet would leave the ground but never high enough to cause any issues. dont know where yours fall into this category, guess what im trying to say is i wouldnt make an issue out of it if he is only clearing the ground 6 inches, if that causes trouble you got a dog looking for it.

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