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Old Semen and the modern day female

Thought provoking and just wondering some opinions:

The quest to get that top bred coondog is always out front like the carrot on a stick. I have some old semen from several hounds and really like making certain crosses with it. I feel I have higher quality females, but tonight I was thinking.....using the semen from the dogs of past on modern day females may be some of the problems. We all have said the female holds more in regards to the outcome of the pup....well, there isn’t any more

Lockdown Lassies
Night Heat Dixie
Stylish Anna
Stylish Abby
Rock River Lady
Queen

And so on.....has the females of today changed? I had someone ask me about Arkansas River Crank tonight...LIPPER x Spring Creek Rock bred on the bottom and it got me to thinking.....Do we really have those good females today to even give that old semen a chance. It just seems that may be something we are overlooking. Obviously we can’t go back and get the old females, but maybe we can breed better today.

Just a thought provoking post

Thanks

Tim

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Tim Green
Retired Air Force 24+ years
Disabled Veteran

Those famous females have granddaughters it will still work. But a true reproducing male does not have to have select females bred to him. Sackett junior had 4000 pups. On a 10 pup average I am sure those 400 females were not all top reproducers. But he left his mark with the best.



Tar

The hardest thing in breeding coon hounds is finding top notch females that are balanced, we started 4 years ago breeding for just that, and are now sitting in a pretty good place to have females to breed to our males that we are proud of.
You can collect the male studs to last for years, but the female is a different story, you have to breed, raise,train and keep those girls around to keep a line going.

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Striving to breed balanced Treeing Walkers.

"Life is short boys, Hunt an intelligent hound"

Born in sin, convicted by the Word, saved by Grace.

Conrad

Thank you for all the work you are doing for the Walker Breed. It takes a Breeder like yourself to keep the Walker Breed on top, I think to many Walker folks have become complacent in their breeding efforts. I love a TOP coon dog, but Walkers are my favorite breed. Dave

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Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses

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Originally posted by yadkintar
Those famous females have granddaughters it will still work. But a true reproducing male does not have to have select females bred to him. Sackett junior had 4000 pups. On a 10 pup average I am sure those 400 females were not all top reproducers. But he left his mark with the best.



Tar

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Tim Green
Retired Air Force 24+ years
Disabled Veteran

ANOTHER REPRODUCER

GRNTCH SCH REDNECK MAFIA

......."For a dog with only 139 pups he has as of today (01/23/2020) 41 titled offspring of NITECH, GRNITECH and a NGRNCH for a production of titled offspring of 29.496% when we quit breeding him he was UKC's #1 reproducer on the current list with the highest of any breed at just over 20% he also produced multiple State Champions, $ State leaders and $ State Champions, and placers in just about every major hunt in various kennel clubs. His mark on the Walker breed as a backyard coondog that was never advertised will continue on through his offspring and theirs.".......

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CORNERSTONE TREEING WALKERS
Greg & Marcia Harring
Syracuse, Nebraska
402-209-5053

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Originally posted by Tim Green
I get it....and like Conrad, I have collected a nice stable of foundation females to support what I’m doing.

BTW: SACKETT Jr #’s are.

2,072 produced
1,806 registered
410 GRNTCHs/NTCHs
19.79%


Pretty impressive to say the least.

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Rat Attack sure "left his mark on the breed".

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Rat Attack sure "left his mark on the breed".

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If I’m building a racing coonhound that competes on the big track, I’ll probably go with this formula

1.Nailor for the body and classy looks
2. Lipper for the loud mouth
3. Gonna put a Harry engine under the hood to give’ em another gear and go hard
4. Rat Attack to put the brakes on them to make them stop and look up

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Tim Green
Retired Air Force 24+ years
Disabled Veteran

Tim you must have never hunted with Nailor he would defiantly take you hunting and could flat run a deer so no harry needed

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Originally posted by Fireballs
Tim you must have never hunted with Nailor he would defiantly take you hunting and could flat run a deer so no harry needed

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Tim Green
Retired Air Force 24+ years
Disabled Veteran

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Originally posted by Tim Green
If I’m building a racing coonhound that competes on the big track, I’ll probably go with this formula

1.Nailor for the body and classy looks
2. Lipper for the loud mouth
3. Gonna put a Harry engine under the hood to give’ em another gear and go hard
4. Rat Attack to put the brakes on them to make them stop and look up

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Originally posted by GES
Better hire a professional driver....and make sure they have on a fire suit when you hit the wall.....when you hit, not IF. Drive it like you stole it!

Best of luck,
GES

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Tim Green
Retired Air Force 24+ years
Disabled Veteran

Tim Green

I love what you are doing with your youth hunter. Getting our youth involved is the future of our sport, watching her progress and seeing her win hunts has to be just as much fun as doing it yourself. You are helping to create memories that will last for her lifetime, you can not put a price on that. Good luck. Dave

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Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses

Tim, Good job with the youth 👍🏼
And good luck on the breeding endeavor, that will be interesting.

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Striving to breed balanced Treeing Walkers.

"Life is short boys, Hunt an intelligent hound"

Born in sin, convicted by the Word, saved by Grace.