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Posted by mike199 on 03-06-2013 02:08 AM:

male / female "traits"

I have a ? for you guys, do think pups take more after thier father or the mother, what traits do you think favors the pups, father or mother ?


Posted by big m.d. on 03-06-2013 02:26 AM:

Ive noticed sometimes the males will take trates from the mother and the females will take after the father

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Posted by POTOMAC on 03-06-2013 02:34 AM:

What I have experienced in my few breedings is some females reproduce themselves and some females reproduce mode of the traits of what they are bred to!!!!this has been my experience with top reproducing females!


Posted by LIL-E on 03-06-2013 02:46 AM:

Female does not matter. Just bred to a cracker jack all Grand stud then your good.


Posted by mike199 on 03-06-2013 02:53 AM:

Female does not matter. Just bred to a cracker jack all Grand stud then your good.

wow, dont believe this for a minute, but then again thats probaly the reason there is so many culls


Posted by GA DAWG on 03-06-2013 03:02 AM:

Its like playing the lottery. Never know what your gonna get BUT. If you can afford it. Try and get a pup from a top reproducing female. No matter what she's bred to.

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Posted by MUSKINGUM RIVER on 03-06-2013 04:52 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by GA DAWG
Its like playing the lottery. Never know what your gonna get BUT. If you can afford it. Try and get a pup from a top reproducing female. No matter what she's bred to.


X2

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Posted by BawlinBlues on 03-06-2013 05:27 AM:

i wouldnt breed dogs that didnt have traits that i want.breed nice hounds and get good results.not all the time but u have a better chance of getn some nice prospects by breedn good females togood males.a man once told me never breed dogs that have holes.which i took it as only breed wat u would be happy to own,and dont breed dogs that have bad traits.no dog is perfect but theres lil problems and then theres problems i couldnt look past.

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Posted by VaBirdDog on 03-06-2013 06:53 AM:

I really think that the mindset of just breeding any old brood bitch that just sits in a kennel to some blown up stud dog is what holds some of the coon hound breeds back. Yeah every once in a while you might luck out and get something worthwhile but there is gonna be plenty more junk in between. And when you do luck out like that i would bet that if the "brood bitch" had been given a chance she could have at least done ok.The only thing that can prove a dogs worth is being put in the woods. You are taking two sets of genes and mixing them so the more desirable traits you can throw in the mix the better off you will be. Some of these studs get promoted so hard that you would be led to believe that they are so great that their genetics are so great that they will just overpower whatever they are bred to and throw top notch pups even crossed on a line of culls! Common sense just says that its better to cross good genitics with good genitics but to say exactly which traits pup will get from a cross is impossible some even skip generations. So that makes it even that much more important to look back as far as you can.


Posted by slobbermouth21 on 03-06-2013 07:01 AM:

Got to have both that will nick when cross but both also have to be proven to reproduce as good if not better then themselfs..but I like to breed track power over tree power I like my females to be on the tree power side and my males to be on the track side just seems to produce well.balenced hounds but everyone's veiws are different.

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Posted by marpal on 03-06-2013 01:41 PM:

Re: male / female "traits"

quote:
Originally posted by mike199
I have a ? for you guys, do think pups take more after thier father or the mother, what traits do you think favors the pups, father or mother ?
To put it in perspective, look at your own family three generations back and work forward.


Posted by Larry Atherton on 03-06-2013 03:24 PM:

Most of the time you will see a mix of traits between both parents, and potential traits similar to aunts, uncles, or grandparents.

On a general bases I don't believe any traits favor one parent over another. If you do have a true dominant reproducer, than you may expect certain traits to favor that parent. Fact of the matter is there are very few dominant reproducers.

Nine times out of ten if either parent has a trait that drives you nuts, count on it showing up in the offspring.

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Posted by mike199 on 03-06-2013 11:44 PM:

ttt


Posted by LIL-E on 03-07-2013 12:17 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Billy Beckham
Please explain yourself....

If I had to choose between
Super Stud x Brood Bitch
or
Coondog x Coondog


Im taking choice number two everytime

I agree coon dog x coon dog for me. I guess that's why I only hunt females.


Posted by Cynthia on 03-07-2013 01:23 PM:

I bred my Bonnie female (double Rambo bred) and my Bandit male (Jet, Levi, Vaughn) last year. At a year old, here is what I see. All of them have the temperament of the mom - sweet, laid back, calm, couch potatoes....until they see a coon! then its on!!! there is one that has not shown any interest yet, but dad was almost 2 before that happened with him. in the looks dept, the girls look more like mom, the boys more like dad. they are built like dad, they have feet like mom. for THIS litter, I think they got the majority of everything from mom with just enough from dad to "know who their daddy is". VERY happy with this litter. will make this cross again. two of these pups were at SETWD Fri/Sat. can go to http://www.southernflamekennel.com/pedigrees.html to see peds

the previous litter from Bandit, it was a toss up from what I saw. most of them were coon crazy, looked like dad, not sure about temperament. the one I kept has his dad's attitude and his mom's looks (poor guy).

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Posted by mike199 on 03-07-2013 09:43 PM:

ttt


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