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Posted by JiM on 02-26-2018 09:07 PM:

How do they stay in business?

How do these magazines stay in business today. I get all three coon mags and wouldn't give them up for nothing but there are barely any stud ads anymore. I remember when every other page was a stud ad. Just got my new Cooner and I don't think there are a dozen ads. I guess few can justify the expense when the Internet is everywhere for free. I guess the Web has changed a lot of things.

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Posted by yadkintar on 02-26-2018 09:12 PM:

Jim the guys figured out they can make more $$$ hunting than setting at home waiting on a stud fee if he is a winner he will breed those females at the hunt.



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Posted by DocAcumen on 02-27-2018 01:48 AM:

Re: How do they stay in business?

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
How do these magazines stay in business today. I get all three coon mags and wouldn't give them up for nothing but there are barely any stud ads anymore. I remember when every other page was a stud ad. Just got my new Cooner and I don't think there are a dozen ads. I guess few can justify the expense when the Internet is everywhere for free. I guess the Web has changed a lot of things.


They DON'T JiM!!!
I once worked at a place the Put out , Hearst , and The TIME Magazines!

Among many more!!!!!! Even Catalog stuff!!! That was high circulation!!!!

Print today , is just in the ADD kind of thing! The what most would cal , Junk mail? Adds yo get form Wally World , mass stuff
that is like insurance , TV providers , ECT......
As far as magazines, not really and thing in it!!!

So, no reason to advertise in a MAG, If it is not in a flyer?
You ain't missing much!!!
IT has been a thing of the past for many years!!!

Sad to SAY!!!! as it has cost me , and many I have known !
A way of life!!!!


Posted by high ridge on 02-27-2018 02:07 AM:

I picked up a cooner a while back at my buddies. I thought they must have messed up and put cooner name on prohound because it was so thin. Nope, it was the cooner. I couldn’t believe it.

I guess I part of issue. 30 years ago I would run to the mailbox to get cooner and full cry. Now, I just go to the website

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 02-27-2018 01:35 PM:

Maybe Bloodlines mag could learn a lesson from Trump's tax cut. Drop the price of the ads way down and get more of them and they will increase revenue. And then with more adds, they will increase circulation.


Posted by Prime Time 29 on 02-27-2018 04:17 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Maybe Bloodlines mag could learn a lesson from Trump's tax cut. Drop the price of the ads way down and get more of them and they will increase revenue. And then with more adds, they will increase circulation.


Exactly! Didn’t the Atlanta Falcons cut concession cost by half or so, and the sale of food was the highest ever? I wish more would follow!

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Posted by joey on 02-27-2018 05:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Maybe Bloodlines mag could learn a lesson from Trump's tax cut. Drop the price of the ads way down and get more of them and they will increase revenue. And then with more adds, they will increase circulation.


No they will not they might pick some up a few but not near enough. The days of the mag are coming to an end. They will not be around in 5 to 10 years. I can pay Facebook $35 or can pay the mag $400. That $400 reaches a very small fraction of the people that the $35 reaches. Simple math.

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Posted by Chuck Allen on 02-28-2018 01:05 PM:

I have a cousin that had to switch careers after 20 years in advertising. One reason Internet.

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Posted by deadeye ruck on 02-28-2018 03:54 PM:

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Originally posted by joey
No they will not they might pick some up a few but not near enough. The days of the mag are coming to an end. They will not be around in 5 to 10 years. I can pay Facebook $35 or can pay the mag $400. That $400 reaches a very small fraction of the people that the $35 reaches. Simple math.


I'm 33 and I agree with much of what you say. I have ran several ads in the magazines and have picked up breedings from them. I have also picked up a couple of breedings mainly through Facebook and this forum.

There is a very clear divide between the new generation and old generation of coon hunters. The older guys stick to the magazines. They are typically more accomplished breeders and when they call are usually serious about breeding.

The younger generation is wishy washy. They might follow through with their intentions but 4 out of 5 times usually they don't.

One thing remains true. If you are serious, make the CALL.


In 10 more years I think the magazines will still be here but I think the way we see advertising continue in the trend towards digital media platforms.

I do agree with you, $400 for a single month ad is very high when I can reach considerably more by using an entirely free service.

I would be interested to know information like the total number of paid subscriptions there are on average to the magazine like Bloodlines.

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Posted by JiM on 02-28-2018 04:27 PM:

The light builders and supply stores seem to be footing most of the advertising load anymore.

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Posted by dean jamerson on 02-28-2018 09:49 PM:

Well lets think about this, what sold me on the last pups i bought? Was everytime i went to fb i was seeing video after video of these good looking pups treeing, and then other people sharing videos of there pups treeing coons in the wild. You can see and hear them. Big difference looking at add in book. I always wanted to win something big jist so i could make the cover of one of the magazines, just so everyone would have to look at my ugly mug, but the magazines going to be obsolete before i get my picture took!

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Posted by John B.Dalton on 02-28-2018 09:55 PM:

Well lets think about this, what sold me on the last pups i bought? Was everytime i went to fb i was seeing video after video of these good looking pups treeing, and then other people sharing videos of there pups treeing coons in the wild. You can see and hear them. Big difference looking at add in book. I always wanted to win something big jist so i could make the cover of one of the magazines, just so everyone would have to look at my ugly mug, but the magazines going to be obsolete before i get my picture took!..Deam Jamerson
You still got time Mr.Dean..Chkc world is next month,walker days is coming up,black and tan days usually makes a cover also Get out there and give them a fit!!

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Posted by dean jamerson on 03-01-2018 06:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by John B.Dalton
Well lets think about this, what sold me on the last pups i bought? Was everytime i went to fb i was seeing video after video of these good looking pups treeing, and then other people sharing videos of there pups treeing coons in the wild. You can see and hear them. Big difference looking at add in book. I always wanted to win something big jist so i could make the cover of one of the magazines, just so everyone would have to look at my ugly mug, but the magazines going to be obsolete before i get my picture took!..Deam Jamerson
You still got time Mr.Dean..Chkc world is next month,walker days is coming up,black and tan days usually makes a cover also Get out there and give them a fit!!



Got to have something besides a pup!

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Posted by dean jamerson on 03-01-2018 06:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by John B.Dalton
Well lets think about this, what sold me on the last pups i bought? Was everytime i went to fb i was seeing video after video of these good looking pups treeing, and then other people sharing videos of there pups treeing coons in the wild. You can see and hear them. Big difference looking at add in book. I always wanted to win something big jist so i could make the cover of one of the magazines, just so everyone would have to look at my ugly mug, but the magazines going to be obsolete before i get my picture took!..Deam Jamerson
You still got time Mr.Dean..Chkc world is next month,walker days is coming up,black and tan days usually makes a cover also Get out there and give them a fit!!



Got to have something besides a pup!

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Posted by Jon Hadden on 03-02-2018 12:01 PM:

We have ran Stud Dog ads. Put the pencil to it. It is not worth it. When Buzz was breeding Rat. Sure he could. The stud dogs are so broken up there is not enough money to be made to put them ads in the book. Face Book is a lot cheaper. Just like Walmart is cheaper than the old General Stores. That is what has happen to the whole world. The prohound is almost black and white. The cover pages is the only color ones. Its about 1/8th inch thick.

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