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Posted by garminguru on 12-29-2014 09:31 PM:

My Hunt, Jordan Game land In Central N.C. Chatham County

Went to this location for the first time ever this past weekend. After many miles of driving, checking spots, scouting, asking questions, and knowing I was in a part of the state that supports an excellent coon population, I doubt I will go back.
Treed 2 coons Friday night and was satisfied I guess, but not any better than my spots much closer to home. Saturday we tried some spots North of Hwy 64 and that was a joke due to the traffic.
I suspect private land would be awesome down there but if you live a long way from this game land and want to try it for coonhunting but you already have spots you can tree 2-3 a night on average, I would recommend you not waste your time if you are driving far.
Does anyone who lives and hunts in that area agree or disagree? Maybe it was just a bad night but we covered many drops the first night to only tree 2 coons.
Much of that gameland is standing water and the spots where there is gameland joining a public road, the gameland only extends a short ways on each side of the creek feeding Jordan Lake and if you do not tree on the lake, or within 20 yards of each side of the creek, you are on private property.
I would be interested in hearing others opinions of this game land.


Posted by JoshWhitford on 12-30-2014 12:50 PM:

Talked to a guy 2 weeks ago that said that was the only place he had to hunt. He said that everyone thinks their are coons everywhere there. He said their used to be but not anymore.


Posted by garminguru on 12-30-2014 03:36 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JoshWhitford
Talked to a guy 2 weeks ago that said that was the only place he had to hunt. He said that everyone thinks their are coons everywhere there. He said their used to be but not anymore.


We were checked by a really nice warden the very first night. That warden talked like coons were very populated down there and from my driving around, and looking, I would think that would be correct.
I now believe his statements did not relate to the game lands, but most likely the larger patch woods areas and farms of Chatham county.


Posted by deschmidt27 on 12-31-2014 05:57 PM:

2 coons in one night, is better than I've been able to do in the Caswell Gameland!

It looks like it would be a nice place (big timber and large creek bottoms), and perhaps I haven't hit the right spots, but mostly what I've managed is some den trees deep into the timber! It seems like it's been picked over, but I've hunted there a dozen times and have yet to run into another hunter.

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Posted by garminguru on 12-31-2014 07:21 PM:

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Originally posted by deschmidt27
2 coons in one night, is better than I've been able to do in the Caswell Gameland!

It looks like it would be a nice place (big timber and large creek bottoms), and perhaps I haven't hit the right spots, but mostly what I've managed is some den trees deep into the timber! It seems like it's been picked over, but I've hunted there a dozen times and have yet to run into another hunter.



Picked over was what I figured about Jordan Game land but I ran into a squirrel hunter with a cur dog while I was scouting and he said hardly anyone coonhunted that game land that he knew of.
The warden actually eluded to the same message.
That place looked like it was rather pressured by the deer hunters though for sure.


Posted by deschmidt27 on 12-31-2014 07:41 PM:

Deer hunting pressure for sure, at Caswell, as well. Maybe they just got destroyed when fur prices were higher, and haven't recovered.

There's also not a lot of grain crops around, but I would have thought the big oak ridges, would have held some coon!

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Posted by garminguru on 01-01-2015 06:52 PM:

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Originally posted by deschmidt27
Deer hunting pressure for sure, at Caswell, as well. Maybe they just got destroyed when fur prices were higher, and haven't recovered.

There's also not a lot of grain crops around, but I would have thought the big oak ridges, would have held some coon!



I don't know about you, but I would be thoroughly disgusted coming from up north where the coons are plenty down here to where it is a joke.
I wonder how many guys hunting that tree 3-4 a night in a couple of hours and at home in the bed by 10pm would keep going if they went to treeing 3-4 a week and in bed at 1am.
Game land in NC is laughable for the most part except for giving a dog some exercise.
You are living in Burlington now so you definitely are in the right area of the state, maybe you can find you some private woods to hunt and have a little better experience. I can assure you, it will be nothing quite like you are used to.


Posted by CoondogUp on 01-01-2015 10:54 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by garminguru
I don't know about you, but I would be thoroughly disgusted coming from up north where the coons are plenty down here to where it is a joke.
I wonder how many guys hunting that tree 3-4 a night in a couple of hours and at home in the bed by 10pm would keep going if they went to treeing 3-4 a week and in bed at 1am.
Game land in NC is laughable for the most part except for giving a dog some exercise.
You are living in Burlington now so you definitely are in the right area of the state, maybe you can find you some private woods to hunt and have a little better experience. I can assure you, it will be nothing quite like you are used to.



You are correct it is tough... the normal guy would quit coon hunting all together. That has been my ONLY hunting areas for the last 8 years. But I still do it, wonder why most nights. But it is too difficult to get the coon hunting bug out of me

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Posted by deschmidt27 on 01-02-2015 12:01 AM:

It is good to hear that it's not entirely a lack of dog power! There have been a couple nights, where I thought my dogs had lost their minds.

And yes, I do miss the land of milk and honey... it used to be 5-6 a night during season, and still home by 10:00! But I have a neighbor that is kind enough to show me around and introduce me to some local folks that may provide for some private land to hunt! Caswell is about a 35 minute drive, and that sort of adds insult to injury!

We all need to get together... misery loves company!

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Posted by deschmidt27 on 01-02-2015 12:15 AM:

I've told my wife about my hunting experience at Caswell, as well as the discussion on this thread, and she just said, "oh, so it's like a big dog park, where you take your dogs for exercise!"

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Posted by garminguru on 01-02-2015 02:47 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by deschmidt27
It is good to hear that it's not entirely a lack of dog power! There have been a couple nights, where I thought my dogs had lost their minds.

And yes, I do miss the land of milk and honey... it used to be 5-6 a night during season, and still home by 10:00! But I have a neighbor that is kind enough to show me around and introduce me to some local folks that may provide for some private land to hunt! Caswell is about a 35 minute drive, and that sort of adds insult to injury!

We all need to get together... misery loves company!



35 minutes........ I drive exactly 100 miles one way to get to my best spots and if I tree 3 a night I am on top of the world, and it usually takes 3hrs of hunting to achieve that.
I would imagine for guys like me that has only known what I know, it would just become a way of life but to come here from up north, I do not know if I could stand it or not.
If you want to drive west to exit 155 on I40 some time, we will hunt what I feel is some fairly decent hunting for NC but I did go last night and only made a den tree. I have actually treed 5 in my spots on two separate occasions over the last 5 years but those nights are rare and usually involve trees with more than one coon in them.


Posted by cctreeingwalker on 01-02-2015 04:04 PM:

I'm a short 45 min drive from Burlington down in Asheboro with a few great spots. Call me and bring a coon dog cause mine has been acting a fool lately. Lol. 336-465-3679 I also have a few places in Orange County north of Hillsborough (my home town)

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Posted by deschmidt27 on 01-02-2015 04:08 PM:

I definitely need to do that! I keep telling Jim and Courtney that I'll catch up with them too, but with the new job, moving and now a trip to China, I've barely made time to go to the "dog park" a few times!

But when I get back from China, I'll be reaching out to you guys to get to know you and the "neighborhood"!

Thanks so much!

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Posted by rockrivhuntr on 01-04-2015 05:58 PM:

Poor coon population

I hunt a lot of these same game lands that Courtney spoke of (Jordan Lake) and I can tell you I have hunted in some of the harder to get to spots around the lake, the type of spots that most will scratch off of their list of places to go to after a long,long,long night of walking to a dog because it's the only way to get in and out and I can assure you that the coon population there is weak at best!!! A lot of guys who hunt here with me on occasions tend to affectionately call it the "Dead Zone"! They come here to hunt with me when they want to measure the true ability of their dogs, or to have a "reality check" if you want to call it that, on just how good their dogs are. Here you have to have a dog that will run past multiple fresh deer tracks, past occasional opossum and coyote/fox tracks and then have a much much more better than average cold track moving ability-based sense of smell to strike a coon track and the ability to get those kind of tracks treed with a high success rate because these tracks can be few and far between. There is nothing more aggravating to me, and most coon hunters that I know, than to spend time walking into slick trees, especially those where you are forced to walk a long distance to get to or to deal with repetitive fast game tracks night after night because of the lack of a good coon population.. Don't even get me started on the difficulties of trying to start and break a young dog in this environment!!! I have sold several young dogs in the past couple of years which became fair to good, or at least owner-satisfying, coon dogs who because of whom, as what I perceived to be, were held back from their full potential due to the lack of coons. Everyone has their own opinion as to what makes up the determining factors to produce a good coon dog. I believe the make up consists of 80% breeding and 20% of predominantly situationally-beneficial training or hunting exposure. It's hard to offer that here with these conditions. If you continue to hunt young dogs where they are not exposed to the right conditions they are going to develop bad habits because of the drive or hunting desire that is bred into them and once these bad habits develop they are sometimes near impossible to correct or cure if you will without the running the chance of possibly ruining a young dog! There are some places around Jordan Lake game lands where the population seems to be better but they are on predominantly privately owned tracks that tend to but up against some of the higher end, or "posh and ritzy" for lack of a better term, residential housing areas where hunting is more often than not viewed as barbaric or as an activity more suited to "common" people. Taking a chance of your dog straying into these areas will open you up to the possibility of a confrontation or worse to the possibility of injury to you and or your dogs. Some I am sure will comment that my problem is due to lack of dog power and they may be right but i am not the only one who can attest to the poor coon population condition here so if your asking for my opinion don't bother making a long drive to come here to hunt because the "grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence"!!!!! Don't get me wrong I have not given up on coon hunting. Like Courtney said it's in your blood and hard to shake if it is what you enjoy but I am looking at things differently now and I am have to be more realistic in my approach unless I am willing and or able to drive or pay to get in a club or lease where conditions are better. I do not have the financial means to fill and keep feeders going plus I am now working a third shift job that includes most weekends so my hunting time is extremely limited but i haven't thrown in the towel just yet!! JMOP! Thanks for reading my rant!

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Posted by deschmidt27 on 02-09-2015 08:11 PM:

Some of you guys are hiding them!!!

Courtney and I drew out together on Friday night, out of Stoney Creek. Went to some private property, the location to remain a secret, and we scored on 6 and saw 8!!!

Hunted again on Saturday night, out of the Piedmont club, at another undisclosed location, and scored 5 and saw 6.

On chilly nights with a moon out... not to shabby in any part of the country!

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