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Posted by buckshot britt on 11-10-2011 01:57 AM:

best way to train a pup??

i got a young female redbone almost 4 months old. what would be the best way to start training her? i got her on coon hides right now.


Posted by Caleb Wilson on 11-10-2011 02:09 AM:

ive always had good luck with pups............. I just take them hunting with a good dog. Alot of people like messing em with hides and drags ive never done that. I will sometimes turn coons loose to them if they have trouble starting but id rather not even do that. The best pups i ever started i just took huntin with an old dog then when they started runnin and treein broke them off by themselves and they did great. JMO this is how ive done it and its worked for me dogs are like people they can only process so much info at a time so i like to keep how i start pups simple. GO HUNTIN learn by experience on real live coons. Ever one is different im sure there will be plenty of people that disagree or have different methods

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Posted by buckshot britt on 11-10-2011 02:13 AM:

thank you, when you cut a pup loose do you have a garmin or anything on them or do they just run and stay with the other dogs?


Posted by Caleb Wilson on 11-10-2011 02:34 AM:

at first i don't put one on mine but when they start staying gone all the time then i do i might anyway if i got an extra laying around

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Posted by buckshot britt on 11-10-2011 02:38 AM:

thanks for the help!


Posted by PokeHart on 11-16-2011 02:34 AM:

My opinion is to just take her with you everytime you go and take her with an older dog that is experienced.

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 11-16-2011 02:46 AM:

i dont like taking a naked pup to the woods its 1 thing
to catch it in the back yard another hunting

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Posted by PokeHart on 11-16-2011 04:33 AM:

@ LEE Ok than how else do you expect to train her you cant train her sitting in your recliner no offence but you have to take them out.

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Posted by toe cutter on 11-16-2011 04:37 AM:

if it aint worth the price of a garmin collar to keep track of it - to me its not worth training. and i do it just like the guy above (caleb). first coon my pups see is the first one shot out the first night it goes with the older dog. i dont even try and start pups till they are between 10 and 12 months old.
and by older dog i dont mean an old slow dog. a 2 yr old or 3 yr old dog that is a real coondog can be my pup trainer anyday.
in my eyes the only thing a dog has to be is a real coondog and not ill to be my puppy trainer. the better it can run and tree a coon,the more coon my pup will be exposed to and the better it is for training my pup. which actually - you dont and the older dog dont - train it how to track and tree. you train it "what" to track and tree by exposing it to coon with the other dog. once the pup is wanting to get after a coon i hunt them alone...too many people wait too long to try and hunt them alone.
at 4 months old i would only socialize and raise and handle the dog. mainly only teach it what come here and no means.i have found it dont matter how well i teach them to lead ,they become untrained when i get them coon crazy in the woods.. so i do that in the woods too,the first night.

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Posted by old ben on 11-16-2011 09:30 PM:

i would work on basic commands teaching to lead ,,let it have some time to mature imo most pups not treeing there own coon at 4 months and some never will at 4 yrs old .i just enjoy watching pups figure things out good luck

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Posted by hillbilly56 on 11-16-2011 11:19 PM:

pup

every one has thier own way i always put a young dog on a leash and lead it in to the tree and tie it up at the tree and not pay any atteion and shoot the coon out to the old dog till it starts showing interst in treeing usally within 2 wks it knows when the old dog is treed when it starts wanting to go to the old dog i turn it loose let it go to tree


Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 11-16-2011 11:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PokeHart
@ LEE Ok than how else do you expect to train her you cant train her sitting in your recliner no offence but you have to take them out.


none taken what has that got to do with catching a pup
that has followed you around all night.then when you get back
to the truck you cant catch it.i usually dont hunt 1 with another
dog cause 1 is all i own.

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Posted by hillbilly56 on 11-17-2011 01:23 AM:

pup

i just looked at your post again you say you have been working her on hides does she trail the hide to the tree and show interst in the tree where you put the hide if she does you need to take her where you know coon travel through see what she does but rember she is a pup may not do nothing till shes 6 or 8 mons old have seen some not start till thier a year old or maybe older some that start slow still makes a top hound you cant make a pup start before thier ready jmo


Posted by II Chance on 11-17-2011 03:53 AM:

I really like your thinking, Red Eagle - Finley River MAN

quote:
Originally posted by toe cutter
if it aint worth the price of a garmin collar to keep track of it - to me its not worth training. and i do it just like the guy above (caleb). first coon my pups see is the first one shot out the first night it goes with the older dog. i dont even try and start pups till they are between 10 and 12 months old.
and by older dog i dont mean an old slow dog. a 2 yr old or 3 yr old dog that is a real coondog can be my pup trainer anyday.
in my eyes the only thing a dog has to be is a real coondog and not ill to be my puppy trainer. the better it can run and tree a coon,the more coon my pup will be exposed to and the better it is for training my pup. which actually - you dont and the older dog dont - train it how to track and tree. you train it "what" to track and tree by exposing it to coon with the other dog. once the pup is wanting to get after a coon i hunt them alone...too many people wait too long to try and hunt them alone.
at 4 months old i would only socialize and raise and handle the dog. mainly only teach it what come here and no means.i have found it dont matter how well i teach them to lead ,they become untrained when i get them coon crazy in the woods.. so i do that in the woods too,the first night.


Posted by buckshot britt on 11-17-2011 06:02 PM:

hillbilly56
yeah she trails it to the tree. and thanks thats a good idea!


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