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Posted by Charles Pullen on 04-21-2023 12:22 AM:

Tracking Power & Accuracy

You hear guys talking it at almost every club you go to nowadays. They say it’s gone ! Years ago never heard of a feeder bucket , lol . Silent dogs sure ought to be deadly . But I’m talking about the kind that opens on a track and trees coons in the north , south , west , east , dead in the winter cold night below freezing . Do they exist ? Let’s hear it this ought to be very interesting . 😂

Now if think they’re not please give your thoughts on why .

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Posted by nickhagerman on 04-21-2023 01:45 AM:

They do but there's sure not many...
The Jane female I have will run tracks and tree coon most dogs don't know exist and tree multiple coon in places dogs struggle in no time. By far fastest cold nose dog I've seen and deadly on those lay up coon.

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Posted by OLD TIMER on 04-21-2023 12:27 PM:

By the breed:

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Posted by DL NH on 04-21-2023 12:31 PM:

Yup. I knew this would happen way back when they went to 125 pts for first tree. Took a few years. Not many today know what a good track dog is cause they’ve never had opportunity to see what one really is!

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Posted by Bob Gleason on 04-21-2023 01:19 PM:

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Originally posted by DL NH
Yup. I knew this would happen way back when they went to 125 pts for first tree. Took a few years. Not many today know what a good track dog is cause they’ve never had opportunity to see what one really is!

AMEN !!!!!

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Posted by jawscardodger on 04-21-2023 03:19 PM:

I have a pup now that tracks like an old dog. Last night took a feeder track ran it in to a big swamp where he did get solwed down a bit.But got it out of there and had the coon. Ran about 1000 yards according to the garmin.

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Posted by Sonny Phipps on 04-22-2023 05:09 PM:

It is harder to find than it once was. A lot of dogs have been bred to not be powerful track dogs. Not saying that it wrong or dogs were better years ago, just the way it seems to be. Dogs that tack tracks as they come to them, put direction on the track and push it out are hard to find , but when you have one it will still compete with ambushing style.

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Posted by CONRAD FRYAR on 04-23-2023 12:18 PM:

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Posted by Gunnerwb on 04-23-2023 02:51 PM:

Track dog

I have a double skuna river female that just turned 9 She can run any type track and is as accurate as any out there layups feeder tracks hot weather cold weather does not change her. She has been hunted in many different states and is the same anywhere you cut her. I have raised two litters of pups out of her and the ones I know of can handle a track very well and are accurate. I love drawing the dogs that blow out of the country she usually trees coons behind them more times than not

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Posted by John Fults on 05-03-2023 10:53 PM:

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Originally posted by DL NH
Yup. I knew this would happen way back when they went to 125 pts for first tree. Took a few years. Not many today know what a good track dog is cause they’ve never had opportunity to see what one really is!

The Super Stakes drove guys to breeding a lot of tree power in these dogs to produce dogs treeing at a younger age. The 125 tree is a good thing, it puts a bigger point difference between the 1st tree dog and the me tooing junk, and believe me, the UKC hunts are full of those!

Posted by bowling on 05-04-2023 09:49 PM:

Yes they are out there I have a homer bred dog that has his coon regardless he can run to catch or tree them straight up and shut up on a bad one and put him on the outside don’t matter winter or summer and it don’t take him all night to,get it done. I had his papaw and have hunted this stock for many years. Double skuana river.

Posted by Coby Wright on 05-07-2023 05:23 AM:

Yes, I have two here.

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Posted by honalieh on 05-07-2023 06:15 AM:

Re: Tracking Power & Accuracy

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Originally posted by Charles Pullen
You hear guys talking it at almost every club you go to nowadays. They say it’s gone ! Years ago never heard of a feeder bucket , lol . Silent dogs sure ought to be deadly . But I’m talking about the kind that opens on a track and trees coons in the north , south , west , east , dead in the winter cold night below freezing . Do they exist ? Let’s hear it this ought to be very interesting . 😂

Now if think they’re not please give your thoughts on why .

(1) First, there never have been a ton of dogs like you are describing, but there certainly used to be more.
(2) Below freezing? Thats 32 degrees. Until it drops into the teens or single digits, the temperature is not a problem. 20 to 32 degrees is not bad at all! Dry and dusty is tougher.
(3) Loss of tracking ability (especially on tougher tracks). That's undeniable. I think it's more hunter related than dog related. Todays hunters want quicker and easier (not harder), and don't want to put in the work to develop these abilities. If you select the right bloodlines, that talent is still there. But, you must develop it.
(4) Yes, the type of dogs you are talking about are still out there. But, you have to look in the right places. A feeder bucket competition hunt IS NOT the right place to look.
(5) The sources of this caliber of dog are dwindling. But, they are not gone. At least not yet!!!

Posted by trsizemore on 05-07-2023 03:11 PM:

oregon to maryland

have hunted my dogs all over us and they tree coon every night no matter where you are at or what temp it is thanks for reading

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