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Posted by Toad Hill on 09-05-2019 04:01 PM:

Just Curious / Serious Questions.... Breed Reps

Had a guy ask me yesterday , How many of the Breed Reps of all breeds combined still actively compete in the hunts ?
And where can one find a list of all the Reps ?

I had never really thought about this so im curious now also.

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Posted by tony.beals on 09-05-2019 04:45 PM:

Hunting Breed reps

I was a fill in for NPHA so I did not know everyone there however I did know about 80% and they all still hunt in the hunts. So the answer to your question is yes they do still comp hunt.

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Posted by Toad Hill on 09-05-2019 07:04 PM:

Good to know ! Thanks Tony.

What about a list of the reps , Does anyone know where to find the list ?

Posted by tony.beals on 09-05-2019 10:06 PM:

list

Probably on FBI's most wanted list after this meeting LOL or in witness protection program LOL

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Posted by Toad Hill on 09-06-2019 05:40 AM:

I guess it's a "Big Secret" ????

Posted by Todd K / UKC on 09-06-2019 01:23 PM:

It's no secret. There is no official "breed rep" position. They are not elected by breed associations or appointed by UKC. There is no list like you are asking for.

Typically it is based on who is going to be at Autumn Oaks and is willing to attend the meeting on behalf of the Association. Often times it will be Association Officers but not always. Always it is someone who is well versed on the rules and very familiar with the events.

You need to contact your personal breed Association if you have questions about who is representing on your behalf.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 09-06-2019 01:58 PM:

Oftentimes they "represent" themselves or their own personal opinions and likes/dislikes and not their breed's.

Posted by Grant Noeske on 09-06-2019 03:35 PM:

I was in the meeting. The TWBFA officers and directors held a conference call prior to Autumn Oaks to discus and decide on how we'd vote on all of the rule proposals. Each of us did our own homework to call & talk to hunters, read Allen Gingerich's explanations of all of the rules and read what you all had to say on the message boards.

The TWBFA didn't vote for everything that passed.

Some of you may think that the coonhunting world is now going to hell, but based on the feedback we are all seeing, you're in a small minority.

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Posted by Nathan Phenix on 09-06-2019 03:40 PM:

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Originally posted by Todd K / UKC
It's no secret. There is no official "breed rep" position. They are not elected by breed associations or appointed by UKC. There is no list like you are asking for.

Typically it is based on who is going to be at Autumn Oaks and is willing to attend the meeting on behalf of the Association. Often times it will be Association Officers but not always. Always it is someone who is well versed on the rules and very familiar with the events.

You need to contact your personal breed Association if you have questions about who is representing on your behalf.

So the breed reps isnt even elected by the breed? It's just decided by who is available and who (suppose) have knowledge of rules. How can someone who wasnt elected or agreed on by majority represent a group people. And the people know they are voicing the opinion of the breed. Also how does a breed rep know what the opinion of majority of people are? I see no where people that's representing the breeds asking people opinion. Hard voice opinion when dont even know who voice it to. Seem this should be a voted postion. Or even better have public vote on rule changes. I attend several hunts but not member of any breed or associated with any breeds but I am loyal steady customer of UKC night hunts. Where do I get my opinion heard. I dont complain about much but this system seams weak and sketchy at best.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 09-06-2019 03:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Grant Noeske
I was in the meeting. The TWBFA officers and directors held a conference call prior to Autumn Oaks to discus and decide on how we'd vote on all of the rule proposals. Each of us did our own homework to call & talk to hunters, read Allen Gingerich's explanations off all of the rules and read what you all had to say on the message boards.

The TWBFA didn't vote for everything that passed.
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So, after all of that consideration and talking to your members, y'all determined that they didn't want the rule changes that passed?

Posted by Grant Noeske on 09-06-2019 03:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
So, after all of that consideration and talking to your members, y'all determined that they didn't want the rule changes that passed?

Some yes and some no.

Next time we'll just call you and have you fill out the ballot.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 09-06-2019 04:38 PM:

I would have loved to have had a vote, but apparently it wouldn't have done any good. It sounds like I would have voted like y'all did.

Posted by Toad Hill on 09-06-2019 06:26 PM:

Todd - Appreciate the reply !

I just have never seen it mentioned or even knew how it took place.
I figured something of this importance a man/woman would at the very least be appointed by UKC , voted in , be a MOH , etc , etc ????

So I did honestly "assume" it was a big secret cause I have NEVER heard ANYONE say they was involved or knew anyone who was ever involved in the rule change "committee".

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