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Posted by Bob Hennessey on 11-04-2013 11:20 PM:

Score card

Is this a properly filled out score card?

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Posted by Mark V. on 11-04-2013 11:26 PM:

did not add it up but yes if the math is right

Posted by jmart on 11-05-2013 01:55 AM:

There is no plus minus values in the right hand column, and no signatures by all cast members

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Posted by Robert Johnson on 11-05-2013 01:56 AM:

With no handlers signatures it is an invalid card and should have everyone scratched

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Posted by Bob Hennessey on 11-05-2013 02:21 AM:

It's just a hypothetical card. What I was looking for was, does the points in the plus,minus columns have to have the plus and minus signs too? I've had people tell me that the card is not complete without them. I am a MOH and never believed they had to have plus and minus signs also. Am I wrong?
I see Jmart says they do.

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Posted by jculler8 on 11-05-2013 02:26 AM:

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Originally posted by The Seeker
It's just a hypothetical card. What I was looking for was, does the points in the plus,minus columns have to have the plus and minus signs too? I've had people tell me that the card is not complete without them. I am a MOH and never believed they had to have plus and minus signs also. Am I wrong?
I see Jmart says they do.

I see your ? But it clearly says + - and circle at the top of the column. Since all scores are placed in the final columns correctly (many do this the wrong way), I do not see a problem with it! I wish more people would keep a running total on the far right so less time is wasted adding up scores!

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Posted by jmart on 11-05-2013 02:28 AM:

I can't say I remember who when or where I heard this from but it has always stuck with me and just something I always do

Posted by john Duemmer on 11-05-2013 02:34 AM:

That card looks fine, as far as the pluses and minuses on the right UKC has already done that for us by designating individual collums for each.

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Posted by Mark V. on 11-05-2013 02:52 AM:

I new where you were going with the card and yes I have handlers try to scatch me for that,The rules say in the strike and tree columns.

Posted by Bob Hennessey on 11-05-2013 03:01 AM:

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Originally posted by jmart
I can't say I remember who when or where I heard this from but it has always stuck with me and just something I always do

I know some MOH that say ALL scores must have plus or minus sign even the plus, minus columns, I don't believe they do but sometimes it's safer to just do it. I also know some MOH's that still believe you have to have the 120 min box filled out.

It's almost deer season and nobody will let you coon hunt, cause you'll SCARE ALL THE DEER AWAY so thought I'd post a question to give me something to do. LOL!

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Posted by Paul Frederick on 11-05-2013 01:19 PM:

Without the signatures, yes it is a complete scorecard. The MOH checklist says all values in the Strike and Tree columns must be scored with a plus, minus, circle, or delete. The "score" box on the far right-hand side does not need values to be considered a complete scorecard.

Here is the kicker, the scorecard could be complete but we can't know for sure without seeing the rest of it. If the judge was also the CW and signed it on the judge's line, then that is considered a completed card and should be accepted. Any handler that did not sign the scorecard would be scratched. For information on signatures, and which ones are required (and where) see pg. 96 (Rule 13 Chapter) of The Advisor.

Also, remember in Rule 13 states: "Any handler failing to sign the scorecard in the woods may have the opportunity to sign upon returning the scorecard to, and in view of, the MOH/HD." If this scorecard were brought to a MOH/HD the best thing they can do is to get the cast members to sign right there. If they have already left for whatever reason then the MOH/HD would have no choice but to scratch those particular dogs.

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Posted by Bob Hennessey on 11-05-2013 03:49 PM:

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Posted by JSteely on 11-05-2013 08:01 PM:

Seeker, that's a great post! I would put + or - on everything just to be safe. Thanks for making me put my thinking cap on, on my day off..

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