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Posted by austinsimmerman on 09-24-2012 09:29 PM:

Allen Todd anyone? Answer this

Could you tell me what rule in the rule book it is under that says in sudden death that you quit at sunrise thank you .

Posted by Rough Northern on 09-24-2012 09:31 PM:

Why do you care? Get to your point. It didnt take until sunrise.

btw this post isnt meant to sound harsh.

Posted by Hey Preacher!!! on 09-24-2012 09:35 PM:

I believe that is to comply with state game laws concerning coon hunting, not specifically a U.K.C. rule.

Posted by Allen / UKC on 09-24-2012 09:38 PM:

Austin, there is no mention of it in the rulebook. Common sense suggests you should probably quit before 11 am. I don't know without checking LA but some states have certian times of the day that you may or may not hunt. Just to have an official time in place to where one hour interval hunts must be exhausted it makes sense to have our policy be the official time of sunrise, unless otherwise determined by state law. Those involved in the Final Cast were informed of that policy as it is written and was available at the Zones and Finals. Hope this clarifies your question.

Posted by austinsimmerman on 09-24-2012 10:11 PM:

I am talking about at a local hunt final four not just the world

Posted by Lovis Burns on 09-24-2012 10:53 PM:

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I am talking about at a local hunt final four not just the world

? What local hunt have you been at on a Friday or Saturday held by UKC where they had a final four. I don't know of any anywhere that does that in UKC. Only and if only you have for cast winners that come in with the same exact score and they decide to go back out for one hour and decide a winner. That just doesn't happen.

I think you are thinking about PKC. You are getting the two confused.

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Posted by Oak Ridge on 09-24-2012 10:57 PM:

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? What local hunt have you been at on a Friday or Saturday held by UKC where they had a final four. I don't know of any anywhere that does that in UKC. Only and if only you have for cast winners that come in with the same exact score and they decide to go back out for one hour and decide a winner. That just doesn't happen.

I think you are thinking about PKC. You are getting the two confused.

Well, the UKC hunt rules allow for an hour of "OT" if you are hoplessly deadlocked in a tie...doesn't allow for OT for "no score", but it doesn't expressly "EXCLUDE" it. So a pair of dogs tied at the end of a two hour hunt COULD go back out.....

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Posted by flasher87 on 09-24-2012 11:00 PM:

I think the correct terminology is called a deadline

Posted by Lovis Burns on 09-24-2012 11:33 PM:

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Well, the UKC hunt rules allow for an hour of "OT" if you are hoplessly deadlocked in a tie...doesn't allow for OT for "no score", but it doesn't expressly "EXCLUDE" it. So a pair of dogs tied at the end of a two hour hunt COULD go back out.....

That is what I was explaining to him. I just used four because he said final four. I know that if two dogs are deadlocked even you go back out and hunt or you flip a coin.

I think he has the two KC's confused. UKC dosen't have a final four unless like you and I both stated if it is an even score or they can flip a coin if it is two dogs. PKC has final fours all the time if one hunter decides to hunt it off.

Posted by B Downing on 09-24-2012 11:41 PM:

The slam hunts have a final to if their is one person that wants to hunt it off and not split the money.

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Posted by cbcoonskinner on 09-25-2012 01:24 AM:

In Missouri you can not run your hounds in daylight during firearms deer season,which now with all the youth seasons and blackpowder seasons ,heck it last clear into January.

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Posted by austinsimmerman on 09-25-2012 02:53 AM:

The mini slams have final fours!

Posted by cooncrazy30 on 09-25-2012 04:10 AM:

Here in va the worl hunt would end at 2 am on sat night! lol but ur talking suden death an final 4 thats a PKC thing! An in PKC one member of the final 4 can chose to hunt an they also chose to hun t for an hr or 2 hr! Sunden death is when 1 or mor dogs is tied at zero with no minus! so is dog a struck for 100 b for 75 an c for 50 d for 25 an b comes in an draws minus dog a c d contuine to hunt till one dog makes a tree or 2 dogs are minused! There is no time in suden death first dog to tree game over!

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