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Running out of options

I have a 3 year old male dog. Pretty decent dog that I have done quite a bit of winning with. Only problem now is when you cut him loose in a field or very open woods he shoulders dogs and growls. I will not put up with that nor will I enter him in a hunt if I think he's aggressive. I don't feel it's right and it's stupid the amount of stress it causes wondering what your dog is gonna do when you unsnap the lead. The dog isn't trying to fight because if he were they woulda been balled up already. He trees perfectly fine been in many all male casts with them all treed on 6 inch round trees with no issue at all. He will ride with a male or female in a dog box no issue. It's just when you cut him loose he shoulders them for about 5 yards then it's done. He only does it in comp hunts and it's only every now and again. Never had him do it pleasure hunting and I've tried it with multiple different dogs. I've tried laying him off the hunts for a month and still hasn't helped. Any ideas on how to correct this since it isn't a constant problem? And no he won't be in any hunts if I have any hesitation that he might do it. I know I can win with him but it isn't worth getting someone else's dog hurt or giving myself a bad name.

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Originally posted by ThatBlueDog
I have a 3 year old male dog. Pretty decent dog that I have done quite a bit of winning with. Only problem now is when you cut him loose in a field or very open woods he shoulders dogs and growls. I will not put up with that nor will I enter him in a hunt if I think he's aggressive. I don't feel it's right and it's stupid the amount of stress it causes wondering what your dog is gonna do when you unsnap the lead. The dog isn't trying to fight because if he were they woulda been balled up already. He trees perfectly fine been in many all male casts with them all treed on 6 inch round trees with no issue at all. He will ride with a male or female in a dog box no issue. It's just when you cut him loose he shoulders them for about 5 yards then it's done. He only does it in comp hunts and it's only every now and again. Never had him do it pleasure hunting and I've tried it with multiple different dogs. I've tried laying him off the hunts for a month and still hasn't helped. Any ideas on how to correct this since it isn't a constant problem? And no he won't be in any hunts if I have any hesitation that he might do it. I know I can win with him but it isn't worth getting someone else's dog hurt or giving myself a bad name.

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Mr blue dog it is refreshing to see someone concerned about their dogs actions and concern for others. Hope you find the answer you are looking for

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The last three blue dogs I have had all turned aggressive at about 3 years old. I switched to black dogs after that. Ive hunted blues my whole life and I'm not sure what has changed in them but it seems they are getting more aggressive. As for breaking him. Not sure. I hope you can figure it out and let the rest of us know what you did.

Wait few seconds after other dogs are released if that's his only thing

I had an older female do something very similar. Shoulder another dog (no growling) when cut loose. You didn't see it very often, and it was always after at least one tree. On the previous tree something hinky would happen. When I saw it, I would withdraw her. Most of the time a fight would occur (after she was withdrawn) between the dog she shouldered and a remaining cast member. Maybe I am being naive, but I came to the conclusion that she was telling the other dog "Hey, I got my eye on you". I might be wrong,but that's what I think was going on with her and possibly your dog.

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Mr blue dog it is refreshing to see someone concerned about their dogs actions and concern for others. Hope you find the answer you are looking for

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It almost sounds like maybe he might be a little jealous of other dogs going out and hunting ahead of him. The reason I say this is because I have a Jack Russell that I routinely run during the day with my coonhound pups just for excercise. He acts the same way. The funny thing is that although my other dogs are four times his size he does it anyways and they bow to him.
He has to be the first one to take off and he has to be the one out in front when they all blast off down the farm road. He is so jealous about doing this that if one of the coonhounds slips away and gets ahead of him he will stand in the yard and stare blankly into the woods at nothing and not go for the run.
I have to say that I doubt cutting him will help as this little terrier was neutered well before he ever begin acting this way. He is now 7 years old and shows no sign of stopping. I have let him know I don't like it, but he does it anyway.
Just like yours, this dog has no issues any other time...only when they are initially cut loose. This is why I believe he is just jealous of the other dogs going first.
I am not advocating this, but I really believe the only possible cure would be to have him run up and bump shoulders with the wrong dog three or four times in a row with you not there to stop it. Nothing like a good ol' fashioned country a$$ whuppin to make someone rethink bad manners.

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Originally posted by Eric Bierman
I had an older female do something very similar. Shoulder another dog (no growling) when cut loose. You didn't see it very often, and it was always after at least one tree. On the previous tree something hinky would happen. When I saw it, I would withdraw her. Most of the time a fight would occur (after she was withdrawn) between the dog she shouldered and a remaining cast member. Maybe I am being naive, but I came to the conclusion that she was telling the other dog "Hey, I got my eye on you". I might be wrong,but that's what I think was going on with her and possibly your dog.

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Originally posted by msinc
It almost sounds like maybe he might be a little jealous of other dogs going out and hunting ahead of him. The reason I say this is because I have a Jack Russell that I routinely run during the day with my coonhound pups just for excercise. He acts the same way. The funny thing is that although my other dogs are four times his size he does it anyways and they bow to him.
He has to be the first one to take off and he has to be the one out in front when they all blast off down the farm road. He is so jealous about doing this that if one of the coonhounds slips away and gets ahead of him he will stand in the yard and stare blankly into the woods at nothing and not go for the run.
I have to say that I doubt cutting him will help as this little terrier was neutered well before he ever begin acting this way. He is now 7 years old and shows no sign of stopping. I have let him know I don't like it, but he does it anyway.
Just like yours, this dog has no issues any other time...only when they are initially cut loose. This is why I believe he is just jealous of the other dogs going first.
I am not advocating this, but I really believe the only possible cure would be to have him run up and bump shoulders with the wrong dog three or four times in a row with you not there to stop it. Nothing like a good ol' fashioned country a$$ whuppin to make someone rethink bad manners.

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So it's the strange or "new" dogs that set him off...I really think as a last resort I would get some buddies together and stage a few "comp" hunts with this dog. Especially if he isn't acting this way with dogs he knows, i.e., pleasure hunting. You might have a chance. Have a collar on him and let him know that this aint the way to act. Might just work...what have you got to loose????