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Silent Trailing English

JUST WONDERING HOW MANY OF U LIKE SILENT TRAILING DOGS. I LIKE A DOG THAT WILL OPEN WHEN HE SMELLS A TRACK BUT WILL JUST DRIFT A TRACK NOT A DOG THAT OPENS A LOT....

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I'm like you,Steve, I want him to keep me posted but I don't want a silent trailing hound at all! You described what I like very well......just seem to be having trouble finding what really suits me..........

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Will Roberts

i have a young female she opens on hot tracks but runs quiet on cold tracks,the other nt. i turned her loose she went in about 200 yds. and checked a tree did not open then worked the track some checked another tree worked some more she ended up checking about 4 trees before she finally treed around 400+ yds all this tracking and checking trees she did not open but when she did tree she had the coon. i was runnng a garmin on her this is how i know what she was doing. i do like the fact she did have the coon but would of liked to have her open on track some before treeing,she is 20 months old now.

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I am very sure there are some silent trailing English Hounds out there. Ed Bates once told me Hardtime Speck was silent. I could point out some well known English that I never heard them bark on the ground when I hunted with them, others that certainly had a reputation of being silent. I know 1 guy that when he was talking about a well known English dog that stated "the only time the dog opened on the ground was when he was running a deer".

I have nothing against silent trailing dogs. Because of health reasons, I now mostly hunt silent trailing Mt Curs. They certainly tree coons, never get too deep, and I hunted a Mt Cur that had a coon on the outside every time she treed this winter.

I have had some great English in the past that could consistantly tree coons other good dogs could not smell. I only had a couple of still trailing English and I mainly used them on squirrels. A guy need to do some research before breeding into some lines of English, they never tell you about the dog being silent when they run the full page ad on a dog.

I like my English open. I lots of video of my dogs and I always tried to include some trailing on my videos so folks knew my dogs were open.

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Dave Haugh

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Steve, I have seen plenty of open mouthed hounds that are tight or silent on frozen ground or during poor tracking conditions. I like that! If she had the coon, that is the bottom line. I hate babblers or track wallerers.

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Dave Haugh

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yes having the coon is what it's all about,better than coming up slick not to say she will not slick but she is getting more accurate as she gets older...she is a good as prospect that ive had in awhile....

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never was real woried about what the coon done. more woried about were he is at. But the main thing is they got him when they say they do.

I like a hound that opens a fair amount I love to listen if they are moving a track. However my dog Blu that I just bought back never opened much. He would give you a couple chops when he hit a track a couple more about halfway to the tree and then a triple chop locate. Then only about 60 to 70 bpm on the tree. But loud and consistent never had any time issues in hunts and always ended with plus points. But admittedly not most peoples type of dog. But then again I guess thats why I hunted him and why I bought him back. Just love the old feller!

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I don't like a silent/tight mouthed dog at all. Now don't get me wrong. I don't like a wide open dog either. I want my dog to open according to the track they are running. If it's cold I want them to open when they get to it, then shut up and do a little hit/skip till they get in behind the coon then start opening more to let me know how hot the track is getting. If the track is hot, I want them barking every breath till they catch it on the ground or put it up a tree.

I like for the track to tell me a story, then the tree job is the bling/flash that gets me excited. Then the accuracy of the dog is what tells me weather I'm driving a volkswagon or a BMW so to speak.

If I only get to hear a dog tree, then I don't have much of a story to tell the next day, LOL!!!

A hunting story coming from a silent trailer would go something like this; 1st drop, got treed 400 yards, had a coon. Second drop got treed 150 yards (slick). 3rd drop treed 800 yards, had a possum.

Not a very exciting story from where I'm sitting, LOL. but thats just me an I like to hear good hunting stories no matter if its coming from a hunter or a hound.

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Ive hunted with/and owned several dogs of different english strains, and I think the english breed in general is tight mouthed.

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tight mouthed

Begin tight mouthed is an English trait all together. Probly more tight and silent trailers than open mouthed in the breed. Mine is out of main st max and psycho sally and he rairly opens on a track he can't finish. Runs a track to catch and usually put's em up pretty quick. Jus opens here and there. Everybody likes something different but he puts up a lot of coons and doesn't take all night to do it either. And he's a very accurate one way track dog too. No boohooin back and forth.