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Posted by boxmanwillie on 04-25-2013 12:04 AM:

CROSS BREED HOUNDS

NOTHING WRONG WITH A CROSS BREED HOUND BUT IN REALITY WHAT CAN YOU BREED IT TO EXCEPT ANOTHER CROSS BREED AND WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY WILL LOOK LIKE TO EACH HIS OWN THE ENGLISH BREED DID IT IT TOOK A LOT YEARS FOR THEM TO DO IT THEY PROVED THERE POINT WITH OLD HARD TIME SPECK LOL

Posted by easttxranch on 05-08-2013 07:41 PM:

you could breed it to anything. The pups would still be crossbred. Does anyone else have any opinions

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Posted by bigtimberkennel on 05-08-2013 09:51 PM:

Yep,it or they would always be crossbreed.

Posted by shawn mullinnix on 05-08-2013 11:28 PM:

I'm all for it!!! You're talking breeding a hound to a hound. They are just diffrent breeds. Who cares what color they come. They are Cross-Bred. I have my Walker/Bluetick dog single registered English. If they open up a Cross-Bred breed i will register him as that. Let's hope they do!!!!

Posted by easttxranch on 05-19-2013 10:58 AM:

over 10,000 views but only 200 votes. Please vote.

Posted by rmcmillan on 05-19-2013 08:09 PM:

Leave it the way it is.

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Posted by chuck west on 05-19-2013 08:29 PM:

Well the way I read the poll 2/3 of the hunters want it .

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Posted by rmcmillan on 05-19-2013 08:36 PM:

I still hope they leave it the way it is. Poll dose not mean much to me at all. How many have voted compared to how many have actually looked at it.

If cross breeds were so great then why did all the old timers make individual breeds.

Posted by shawn mullinnix on 05-19-2013 09:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by rmcmillan
I still hope they leave it the way it is. Poll dose not mean much to me at all. How many have voted compared to how many have actually looked at it.

If cross breeds were so great then why did all the old timers make individual breeds.

Mr. McMillan, i don't believe it's a debate to determine if Cross-Breds are great or not. I respect your vote to leave it as it is. In my opinion, having UKC to recognize Cross-Breds as a breed, would not interfere with those of you who choose to own and hunt any of the breeds that are already in place. I actually think it would keep the Pure-Breds more pure.

Posted by boxmanwillie on 05-19-2013 11:45 PM:

EAST RANCH

YOU ARE RIGHT ON THAT BUT WITH OUT UKC THEY ARE WORTLESS JUST GRADE DOGS TO EACH HIS OWN YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YA GOING TO GET OR WHAT YA COULD EXSPECT OUT ONE LOL ME I LIKE A PURE HOUND WITH A SOLID BACK GROUND THAT I KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT OUT A PUP JUST MY OPION NOT TRYING TO DISRESPECT ANYONE

Posted by chuck west on 05-22-2013 08:16 PM:

BTT

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Posted by rmcmillan on 05-22-2013 09:58 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by shawn mullinnix
Mr. McMillan, i don't believe it's a debate to determine if Cross-Breds are great or not. I respect your vote to leave it as it is. In my opinion, having UKC to recognize Cross-Breds as a breed, would not interfere with those of you who choose to own and hunt any of the breeds that are already in place. I actually think it would keep the Pure-Breds more pure.

Mr. mulenex
We used to hunt grade dogs at hunts years ago. These were your crossbred dogs. They died off. So why have them now. I am not debateing anything. Just giving my two cents like you and everyone else!!

I still hope UKC never allows cross breeds, ruin it all. JMO if I am Allowed.

Maybe some one will crossbreed a plott to a pitbull or redbone to a doberman. All ukc reg. So where would you draw the line.

Posted by rmcmillan on 05-22-2013 10:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by shawn mullinnix
I'm all for it!!! You're talking breeding a hound to a hound. They are just diffrent breeds. Who cares what color they come. They are Cross-Bred. I have my Walker/Bluetick dog single registered English. If they open up a Cross-Bred breed i will register him as that. Let's hope they do!!!!

I see hounds to hounds. I still am against it.
Good luck to who ever wants this.

Posted by shawn mullinnix on 05-22-2013 10:17 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by rmcmillan
Mr. mulenex
We used to hunt grade dogs at hunts years ago. These were your crossbred dogs. They died off. So why have them now. I am not debateing anything. Just giving my two cents like you and everyone else!!

I still hope UKC never allows cross breeds, ruin it all. JMO if I am Allowed.

Maybe some one will crossbreed a plott to a pitbull or redbone to a doberman. All ukc reg. So where would you draw the line.

Mr. McMillan, your two cents is more than welcome. I don't think the Cross-Breds ever completely died off. They just came back as Singled Registered in whatever breed that would allow them. Please don't let these Cross-Breds get your feathers ruffled Mr. McMillan. It's just an idea being presented to UKC. Everyone is entitled to their own view of the matter.

Posted by rmcmillan on 05-22-2013 10:53 PM:

Mr. Mulenex
Thank you.

I have went back and read all posts and I enjoyed them. But I have to say I am against UKC recognizing crossbred as a breed.

See if clubs want to purchase trophies and have grade hunt again. I doubt to many will. Have a one hour hunt off, reg winner, nt ch winner, grand and grade or crossbreed.

I have nothing against hunting with one but not registering one.

Best kill dog I ever owned was a siberean husky when she got loose and killed my lead coon. LOL. She did it quick!!!!!!!!!

Posted by shawn mullinnix on 05-22-2013 11:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by rmcmillan
Mr. Mulenex
Thank you.

I have went back and read all posts and I enjoyed them. But I have to say I am against UKC recognizing crossbred as a breed.

See if clubs want to purchase trophies and have grade hunt again. I doubt to many will. Have a one hour hunt off, reg winner, nt ch winner, grand and grade or crossbreed.

I have nothing against hunting with one but not registering one.

Best kill dog I ever owned was a siberean husky when she got loose and killed my lead coon. LOL. She did it quick!!!!!!!!!

How much you want for that Husky Mr. McMillan? LOL I might be able to fit her into my breeding program!!! Seriously, i respect your vote. I myself, can and have single registered my dogs English over the years (Bluetick x Walker) I am able to hunt UKC, but there are alot of Breeds that no longer let you Single Register dogs.

Posted by shawn mullinnix on 05-23-2013 06:55 PM:

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Posted by rmcmillan on 05-23-2013 07:53 PM:

Mr. Mulenex

Husky died a few years ago. Those standing up pointy ears and long hail could have been a problem. Do not forget she had one blue she. LOL.

Why not just stick to breeding a good Blue to Blue and Walker to walker?

Or should I say " wal cur ". Sorry I could not resist.

To each his own. Have had friends with good Walker males, would not consider breeding a nice Blue female to them.

Posted by Larry D Walker on 05-23-2013 08:01 PM:

WHICH ONES WONT????????

quote:
Originally posted by shawn mullinnix
How much you want for that Husky Mr. McMillan? LOL I might be able to fit her into my breeding program!!! Seriously, i respect your vote. I myself, can and have single registered my dogs English over the years (Bluetick x Walker) I am able to hunt UKC, but there are alot of Breeds that no longer let you Single Register dogs.

YOU SAY THERE ARE ALOT OF BREEDS THAT WONT LET YOU SINGLE REGISTER ONE 2 QUESTIONS

1.HOW MANY IS ALOT

2.WHICH ONES WONT LET YOU

BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT, BLACK AN TAN, WALKER, ENGLISH, REDBONE all will except single registered dogs, and all these with the exception of redbone will single register a known crossbreed,

Crossbreeds are already excepted and can be single registered, UKC

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Posted by shawn mullinnix on 05-23-2013 08:11 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by rmcmillan
Mr. Mulenex

Husky died a few years ago. Those standing up pointy ears and long hail could have been a problem. Do not forget she had one blue she. LOL.

Why not just stick to breeding a good Blue to Blue and Walker to walker?

Or should I say " wal cur ". Sorry I could not resist.

To each his own. Have had friends with good Walker males, would not consider breeding a nice Blue female to them.

Never could make my mind up whether i liked Walkers or Blueticks. So i just decided to have alittle of both. Im in to far to turn back now. I've had the same bloodline for almost 30 years now. I'm not color blind by no means. Will hunt whatever gets the job done.

Posted by shawn mullinnix on 05-23-2013 08:19 PM:

Re: WHICH ONES WONT????????

quote:
Originally posted by Larry D Walker
YOU SAY THERE ARE ALOT OF BREEDS THAT WONT LET YOU SINGLE REGISTER ONE 2 QUESTIONS

1.HOW MANY IS ALOT

2.WHICH ONES WONT LET YOU

BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT, BLACK AN TAN, WALKER, ENGLISH, REDBONE all will except single registered dogs, and all these with the exception of redbone will single register a known crossbreed,

Crossbreeds are already excepted and can be single registered, UKC

Mr. Walker, i think you can Single Register about anything if you lie about what they actually are. One would be alot if i could'nt Single Register my dog through that Breed Association.

Posted by gyhunter on 08-17-2013 05:38 PM:

cross-bred ukc vote yes

there is not a pure bred hound on the planet guys,they are just dogs used for mans pleasure to hunt,all you so called pure breeders and registry better wake up soon and vote yes,this vote will not solve or hurt the houndsmans issues BUT IT WILL HELP

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Posted by gunslinger266 on 08-17-2013 07:16 PM:

I dont see what the fuss is about You cant call a crossbred dog a breed anyway they will always be crossbred. The UKC will only be allowing them to be registered and eligible to compete in the hunts not make a breed out of them. It will have no ill effect on other breeds except something else to beat the b&t's. bootiks, and deadbones with. The only thing I can figure out is that y'all are just scared of the competition. By the way put me down for a yes vote on registering crossbred dogs.

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Just an fyi to keep you up to date.......this topic is probably going to be discussed with the chartered breed associations at the Winter Classic in January. If we can be ready with our presentation which I think we can. We had originally hoped to discuss at this upcoming Autumn Oaks but the rule changes are taking priority. So yes, it's still something we are thinking about and working on....carry on. lol

Posted by gyhunter on 08-18-2013 12:47 AM:

crossbred coonhound

that should not mean just 7 breeds,look at the leopard cur-hound.It has to accept other breeds that meet standard,and has paper trail by other registries

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