UKC Forums - Gun Control Treaty...

Pages (13): « First ... « 7 8 [9] 10 11 » ... Last »
Show all 314 posts from this thread on one page

UKC Forums (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/index.php)
- UKC Coonhounds (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=4)
-- Gun Control Treaty... (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthread.php?threadid=928256175)

Posted by Richard Nethery on 07-29-2012 07:24 PM:

Mercury K

Our Elite Milliary is made up of our Sons, Daughters, Brothers, Sisters, Mothers, Fathers Cousins and Friends.

Do you honestly think they would turn against us.

Now Government as a whole is largely made up of Lawyers, and Polititions. You know for a fact that they will turn against us.

__________________
Home of
Log Woods Chester, Treeing Walker,

GRNITECH GR"CH "PR" KIZERS Bleedin Blue Slugger, Bluetick and PR Netherys Trixie Bluetick

Posted by Joe Wesson on 07-29-2012 07:35 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mercuryk
Get real. Do you guys really think by bearing guns you
will be able to overthrow the Federal Government with them. Might have worked back in the 1700's when this amendment was done but not today.

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

And it doesn't state what kind of arms. So do you guys think even with AK47s or what ever kind of guns you will be able to overthrow the Federal Government today get real. What chance you have going up against our elite military.
today that's crazy man. I'll stick with democratic way we have been doing it myself. The guy I want to win doesn't always win but we the people choose them, lets all get along that way we don't have to go trying to over throw our government just because their views are different than yours. Let's put it this way. So many can blame the current president for our current demise and he continues to blame the past one. Our problem is the high cost of the over priced oil. I am smart enough to realize that look at the economy when the cost of it rises our business need it to operate our factories need it our workers needed it to get to work. When the cost goes up it is a domino affect and the only ones making a profit is the oil companies with their continued record profits.

Any threat at all to our second amendment such as the controversy of the AK 47s is just a way to ease into disarming us and then we would have to cater to any type of government. We need to be prepared for any type of threat to American citizens. You speak of AK 47s being a weapon of mass destruction. What if that moron in Colorado would have used the same type of weapon of mass destruction that was used in the Oklahoma bombing. No guns were involved, just simple components that can be purchased just about anywhere. We know Obama's intentions and we can not have 4 more years of him and his socialist agenda. This issue of our Constitution should not even be on the table. Obama took an oath of office to defend and uphold the Constitution. He has no respect for it. It appears that he wants to change it or completely do away with it. The American people WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS!!!! In Nov. we will stand up for America and rid the White House of Obama and his socialist agenda.

VOTE ROMNEY IN 2012---GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

SUPPORT THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT AND THE NRA!!!

Joe Wesson
Vietnam Veteran

__________________
PINE MTN. ENGLISH KENNELS
HOME OF:
GRCH NTCH NEW RIVER REBEL (Co-owner Bo Wolfe)
NTCH GRCH PINE MTN. HAMMER
CH NEW RIVER TRACE (Co-Owner Mack Wolfe)
GRNITECH GRCH PLATINUM'S HARDTIME TURBO BLUE (Co-Owner Terry Reid)

Joe Wesson---828-396-7760

" THE ROOSTER WILL CROW AGAIN "

Posted by skeeterhawk7 on 07-29-2012 08:02 PM:

NRA just called me campaigning against I
Obama and his thoughts and desires on gun control and disarming us !

Posted by mercuryk on 07-29-2012 08:12 PM:

I am not pro Obama but that is not true. I have yet to see that in any of his actions.

Posted by Rip on 07-29-2012 08:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mercuryk
As to your other question, the reason for the second ammendment is NOT so we can go hunting. It is so that the citizens will be threat to the over reach of the federal gubment. The second ammendment was put into place PRECICELY to give Americans the firepower needed to go against the gubment if it was needed so yes the second ammendment is so we as citizens CAN have people killers, huntin guns are just a bonus.

Beg to differ with you on trying to use guns against the federal (Gubment) ? as you stated. We no longer need violence to do that, Just go out and vote and it will be decided by the people of this great Nation. Enough with all the needless lives being lost already because of such thinking.

I absolutely know I am correct on this. That is what the second ammendment was for, to make sure the gubment was never more powerful than the public and that the public was always a threat to overthrow them.

Why do you think the corrupt gubment officials want to disarm the public? It's because they want to be free to enslave us as they see fit and the second ammendment is hampering their wishes. Just like one of the first things Hitler did was to disarm the public, the gubment officials that want to disarm us now (are for gun control) are for gun control in order to give themselves MORE power.

I chose to spell gubment the way I do in case you are wondering.

Oprama said assault weapons should not be in the hands of criminals, so if he wants to take our right to own guns away that means he thinks of the average citizen as being just as bad as a criminal.

The choice is plain, treat the citizens like citizens and let the second ammendment stand or treat us like criminals and try to take our guns away.

We know where a great majority of the democrats stand. They want to take power from the citizens and put it in their court.

__________________
Let's go huntin

Posted by Rip on 07-29-2012 08:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mercuryk
I am not pro Obama but that is not true. I have yet to see that in any of his actions.

You are wrong in this. Look at his voting record, he has voted FOR every gun control measure he could while in his home state gubment as well as a senator and then he fully supported this gun control measure as well.

Oprama has a proven track record of being anti gun. There is no way you can spin it any other way. Just look at his actual, on record, VOTES as a gubment official.

Heck he has even said he doesn't think anyone should be allowed concealed carry and was against it in his home state of Illinois and was 100% against any agreement to allow people who have concealed carry in their state to be able to drive through his state with a gun because in his words "guns are dangerous to the citizens of Illinois" and he was against allowing citizens of other states to endanger Illinois citizens.

You can look it up, it's all public record.

__________________
Let's go huntin

Posted by trackdriver on 07-29-2012 08:40 PM:

Yet how many gun laws has he sign into law? Let me help you,national parks mean anything to ya.

__________________
Never forget Never surrender.... The red white and blue!

Posted by Rip on 07-29-2012 08:44 PM:

Track you need to look at how he has voted. He has voted FOR every single gun control measure he has ever voted on. He has not voted against a single one that I am aware of and I researched his voting record pretty hard before the last election.

That means he passed many gun control laws in his political career.

Just because he hasn't had the political capitol to do it yet doesn't mean it isn't one of his true hearts desires to disarm American citizens. It's what both his words AND his actions (past votes) reveal. He hates guns. There is absolutely no other way to spin it. It's just a fact.

__________________
Let's go huntin

Posted by trackdriver on 07-29-2012 08:52 PM:

And a fact he's never sign any anti-gun law,no other way to spin it unless that the only you can sleep at night. I 've heard he hates gun,white people and america,what's next. Come on make up a new lie! I personally wish president obama would go home and relax because he has nothing to prove. You'll be singing a new tune if mitt wins,eating 10 pounds of it. lol!!

__________________
Never forget Never surrender.... The red white and blue!

Posted by Rip on 07-29-2012 09:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by trackdriver
And a fact he's never sign any anti-gun law,no other way to spin it unless that the only you can sleep at night. I 've heard he hates gun,white people and america,what's next. Come on make up a new lie! I personally wish president obama would go home and relax because he has nothing to prove. You'll be singing a new tune if mitt wins,eating 10 pounds of it. lol!!

Track, it's not a lie. It's the truth whether it hurts you or not you have to admit it.

I don't take up for Bush or Mitt or anybody else when they say or do things that are contrary to conservative principals.

The difference is democrats just can not force themselves to tell the truth about their candidate even when the proof is there for them to see.

He has voted for all kinds of gun control laws and when asked about outright bans he doesn't say he is against them. Even now he says he doesn't think he "can get it doen politically" now. That means he is for banning them but doesn't believe the politics will allow it yet.

He has voted to outlaw hunting amunition, he voted against the right to use a gun in self defense in Illinois and wanted to prosecute people that did use one in self defense.

He has even said recently that he is against all concealed carry.

That's him. He doesn't like guns and doesn't like the public to be allowed to have them.

I have no problem saying Bush spent like a democrat and he was wrong for it, but the other side can't bring themselves to admitting their guy is anti gun when his own voting record and statements (even a statement that he TWICE filled out on paper saying he was for banning the sale, distribution and MANUFACTURE of handguns). Yes he is against ALL handguns and if he had his way he would ban the manufacture of them per his own handwriting on a questionaire.

I would like for the resident democrats on here at least be honest enough to admit that Obama is anti gun.

__________________
Let's go huntin

Posted by CROOKED RIVER on 07-29-2012 09:28 PM:

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.-Thomas Jefferson

Posted by Richard Nethery on 07-29-2012 09:32 PM:

WHY DO ALL THESE MASS SHOOTINGS HAPPEN IN GUN FREE ZONES ?

I think its obvious,

Now think about this, I wonder if the Colorado Theater Shooting would have happened at all if there were Armed Citizens in the Audence. My Guess is Probably Not.

__________________
Home of
Log Woods Chester, Treeing Walker,

GRNITECH GR"CH "PR" KIZERS Bleedin Blue Slugger, Bluetick and PR Netherys Trixie Bluetick

Posted by trackdriver on 07-29-2012 09:39 PM:

i'm waiting for you to even show a proposal by obama. I made it easy for ya. Hurt me naw,i see right thru ya. lol!! You're right about him as a congress man but the commander in chief........

__________________
Never forget Never surrender.... The red white and blue!

Posted by trackdriver on 07-29-2012 09:47 PM:

Got one for ya,Is mitt anti-gun? lol!! Research his pass now.Congressman votes and gov.passes or sign a bill into law,don't shy away.

__________________
Never forget Never surrender.... The red white and blue!

Posted by conhtr1 on 07-29-2012 10:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by trackdriver
i'm waiting for you to even show a proposal by obama. I made it easy for ya. Hurt me naw,i see right thru ya. lol!! You're right about him as a congress man but the commander in chief........

You think he's going to flip flop again? He is good at that. I've stated before why he and his anti gun croud haven't tried anything during his tenure. So many NEW gun owners came out of the woodworks after he was elected that he can be credited with the largest increase in gun and ammo sales in history. That's a lot of votes to anger

Posted by trackdriver on 07-29-2012 10:33 PM:

No sir,That's the gun sale buisnesses getting richer!! lol!! So you're guessing why mean while you can't come up with those anti-gun laws he proposed as the president. Let me save you some work,just believe whatever faux new tells ya and common sense doesn't. Remember the gun crowd didn't vote for obama. That's just y'all being sucked into buying guns and ammo.lol!! I bought me beneli super black eagle and i love it.

__________________
Never forget Never surrender.... The red white and blue!

Posted by Rip on 07-29-2012 11:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by trackdriver
No sir,That's the gun sale buisnesses getting richer!! lol!! So you're guessing why mean while you can't come up with those anti-gun laws he proposed as the president. Let me save you some work,just believe whatever faux new tells ya and common sense doesn't. Remember the gun crowd didn't vote for obama. That's just y'all being sucked into buying guns and ammo.lol!! I bought me beneli super black eagle and i love it.

Actually it's a bit much to ask which ones he "proposed". First of all he wouldn't have to do that. He has plenty of fall guys ready to do that for him so he won't suffer any political fallout if it doesn't pass.

But the closest thing I know of off the top of my head is the UN gun ban that he fully 100% SUPPORTED in his own words. He supported this as the US Commander in Chief.

That should be good enough for anybody.

__________________
Let's go huntin

Posted by conhtr1 on 07-29-2012 11:39 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by trackdriver
No sir,That's the gun sale buisnesses getting richer!! lol!! So you're guessing why mean while you can't come up with those anti-gun laws he proposed as the president. Let me save you some work,just believe whatever faux new tells ya and common sense doesn't. Remember the gun crowd didn't vote for obama. That's just y'all being sucked into buying guns and ammo.lol!! I bought me beneli super black eagle and i love it.

Rick, I never said anything about him 'proposing gun laws. Get your commentors straight. I have stated he may get to name 2 supreme court justices this go round IF reelected. Enjoy that shotgun. Our future generations may not have that luxury so take pictures for the grand kids

.

If you doubt me, read this page and see the 5-4 decision

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distri...umbia_v._Heller

upholding regulations act that requires all firearms including rifles and shotguns be kept....................
"unloaded and disassembled........... or bound by a trigger lock."

"Prior to this decision the Firearms Control Regulation Act of 1975 also restricted residents from owning handguns except for those registered prior to 1975." WITHIN YOUR OWN HOME.

Posted by trackdriver on 07-30-2012 12:23 AM:

Treaty fell apart after communist china,communist russia and United states ask for more time to look it over. He said ,she said,so you can't name one rip?

__________________
Never forget Never surrender.... The red white and blue!

Posted by Rip on 07-30-2012 03:04 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by trackdriver
Treaty fell apart after communist china,communist russia and United states ask for more time to look it over. He said ,she said,so you can't name one rip?

Again I don't have to name one he proposed. He has publicly stated he is against private ownership of handguns. He has publicly stated he wants more gun control and he has publicly stated he FULLY supported the UN gun BAN.

He also has a very, very strong history of voting FOR gun control in his political life and has publicly stated that the only reason he hasn't tried to ban handguns is because he doesn't think it's politically expedient.

It's like he told the russians, if I get re-elected I will be able to help you more. If he gets re-elected he may decide it's politically expedient to try and ban guns.

His record, his statements and his votes speak for him.

It doesn't matter what he has or hasn't "proposed" because Presidents usually don't introduce bills. You should know that. Bills are introduced in the Senate and the House. He signs them after the fact so he wouldn't be proposing them.

Of course he did propose that we accept the UN gun ban.

__________________
Let's go huntin

Posted by trackdriver on 07-30-2012 03:30 AM:

I'm waiting for to show me something because if it was there you would break your neck posting the site. He can propose a bill but a member of congress must submit it for him so you're right my fault. Going to bed rip catch you later.

__________________
Never forget Never surrender.... The red white and blue!

Posted by skeeterhawk7 on 07-30-2012 03:42 AM:

Well don't believe for one minute all the big fat cats in congress has our best interest at heart ! All there really worried about is greasing their on pocket books in the long run ! As a lot of people has stated that we need to clean them out and start over ! LOL

Posted by Hey Preacher!!! on 07-30-2012 03:46 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by trackdriver
how many gun laws has he sign into law?

HOW MANY HAS HE VETOED???

Posted by trackdriver on 07-30-2012 04:15 AM:

He voted on many( as a congressman) and yet to sign any (as president)! Hey that rhymes! lol!!

__________________
Never forget Never surrender.... The red white and blue!

Posted by Hey Preacher!!! on 07-30-2012 04:17 AM:

CONGRESSMAN AND PRESIDENT DON'T RHYME!!!

HOW MANY HAS HE VETOED???

All times are GMT. The time now is 08:56 PM.

Pages (13): « First ... « 7 8 [9] 10 11 » ... Last »
Show all 314 posts from this thread on one page