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Let’s see if I can ask this correctly. Would crossbreeding any two of the three English walker or bluetick, give you a true f1 pup other than on paper? Since they were all English at one point or have they been separated long enough to make a difference. Otherwise wouldn’t you have to breed to one of the other coonhound breeds to make a true f1 and get the hybrid vigor(not coonhunting vigor). Like a walker to a plott and the pups would be a true f1 and may show some hybrid vigor.

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Originally posted by JerryWMorgan
Let’s see if I can ask this correctly. Would crossbreeding any two of the three English walker or bluetick, give you a true f1 pup other than on paper? Since they were all English at one point or have they been separated long enough to make a difference. Otherwise wouldn’t you have to breed to one of the other coonhound breeds to make a true f1 and get the hybrid vigor(not coonhunting vigor). Like a walker to a plott and the pups would be a true f1 and may show some hybrid vigor.

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Tar,

Now according to some "experts" you can completely change the makeup of a hound in 3 or 4 generations. That's why you see so many guys getting bent out of shape over the x bred program.

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Eric DePue
Hill Country Kennels Itty-Bitty
PKC CH Wax's Late Night Boom
And
Partners on a few common trashy young dogs

Gone but not forgotten

GrNtCh, PKC Ch Hillbilly Bildo
Pr Broken Oaks Wild Blue Gypsy

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Originally posted by novicane65
Tar,

Now according to some "experts" you can completely change the makeup of a hound in 3 or 4 generations. That's why you see so many guys getting bent out of shape over the x bred program.

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I definitely agree with what you're saying. You'll see some traits from the common denominator, but I personally think you need to look forward not backwards. But a nobody in the coonhound world. I think you'll be happy with what you'll get breeding to mafia stock. But I haven't seen too many go out of him. We don't seem to have any up here.

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Eric DePue
Hill Country Kennels Itty-Bitty
PKC CH Wax's Late Night Boom
And
Partners on a few common trashy young dogs

Gone but not forgotten

GrNtCh, PKC Ch Hillbilly Bildo
Pr Broken Oaks Wild Blue Gypsy

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Originally posted by novicane65
I definitely agree with what you're saying. You'll see some traits from the common denominator, but I personally think you need to look forward not backwards. But a nobody in the coonhound world. I think you'll be happy with what you'll get breeding to mafia stock. But I haven't seen too many go out of him. We don't seem to have any up here.

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Originally posted by JerryWMorgan
Let’s see if I can ask this correctly. Would crossbreeding any two of the three English walker or bluetick, give you a true f1 pup other than on paper? Since they were all English at one point or have they been separated long enough to make a difference. Otherwise wouldn’t you have to breed to one of the other coonhound breeds to make a true f1 and get the hybrid vigor(not coonhunting vigor). Like a walker to a plott and the pups would be a true f1 and may show some hybrid vigor.

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Originally posted by yadkintar
I do more research than most know hunted with 4 out of shack and different females they all tree coons with good track speed no loose barking and big monster locates a kid could call.


The other option I was considering just showed me not to reproduce none of that.


Tar

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Eric DePue
Hill Country Kennels Itty-Bitty
PKC CH Wax's Late Night Boom
And
Partners on a few common trashy young dogs

Gone but not forgotten

GrNtCh, PKC Ch Hillbilly Bildo
Pr Broken Oaks Wild Blue Gypsy

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Originally posted by shadinc
So what you're saying is a pup from a Walker female and a GSP will be more likely to make a good coon dog than a pup from the same Walker female and Big Country. And if you want a dog with wheels and no brains, you don't need an English pointer. I've had a few registered Walkers like that.

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