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Posted by Austin Sigmon on 06-08-2006 02:29 PM:

sacket is Yadkinriver

Posted by coon dawg on 06-08-2006 04:45 PM:

..........

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sacket is Yadkinriver

....indeed he is.........

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Posted by cougar on 06-14-2006 02:08 AM:

Hank is correct Lipper is not at all yadkin river , lol matter of fact his daddy is House's Clint and his Momma is House's Queen Lou . I also prefer a good solid Finley river dog , my best one got killed 4 1/2 years ago , his grand father was Hern's Red Eagle Dick , and he was a dandy fine hound just like his grand dad . I have a pup right now that is half Houses bred and half finley river , and a female pup that is all finley river . If these 2 make out to be just half as good as there ancestors that i have in this 6 generation ped. lord have mercy ,k-d bar the door... best of wishes to all and happy hunting with what ever breed you choose to hunt...

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Posted by truly on 06-14-2006 02:57 AM:

pete

to add to jay brademeyers post on those sassy dogs the dog i am hunting the techno cowboy dog is sassy bred with a little jr blood and on top credit river tucker who is off of porcupine valley rebel. which i think is my favorite strain. the rebel bred dogs are the fastest , best track dogs in the woods bar none. p dressens bess line goes back to this as do my tucker dogs. in particularly dry conditions this strain cant be outtracked. in the ukc world championship held in ada in the driest conditions ever there were 3 rebel bred dogs in the top twenty. rebel goes back to clint. my vote for clint/rebel.

Posted by l.dunn on 06-26-2006 02:44 AM:

my favorite breeding

My best breeding that I hunted is from Rock River Stone & Nailor that I just lost. This dog taught me to hunt and is sadly missed. I threw this in with River Bend Flag & Hard Knockin Stylish Hayes to get the most awesome litter of pups I have ever seen. Glad to see some like the old breeding of W. VA. Sky & Flag. Susan

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Posted by wkfii on 07-07-2006 03:58 AM:

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Originally posted by SEKY Coonhunter
Spring Creek Radar female crossed with Crowding Billy produced the best hound i've ever hooked a lead to.

Spring Creek Radar? I am having a brain blockage and cannot recall that line. Could you share some history with us. Crowding Billy I know. Direct line into among other things the Big Stride line of running Walkers.

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Posted by wildbill on 07-07-2006 04:27 AM:

quote:
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Spring Creek Radar? I am having a brain blockage and cannot recall that line. Could you share some history with us. Crowding Billy I know. Direct line into among other things the Big Stride line of running Walkers.

radar was direct out of spring creek rock,,,,you could take an double shot of jack for the blockage ,lol,makes things more mellow,lol

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Posted by jesse walter on 07-07-2006 06:42 AM:

???

wouldent have eny of them!! COONHUNT WITH ENGLISH!!!!!!!!LOL

Now before all u walker guys start jumping up and down on me this was just a little joke LOL!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by wildbill on 07-07-2006 02:04 PM:

Re: ???

quote:
Originally posted by jesse walter
wouldent have eny of them!! COONHUNT WITH ENGLISH!!!!!!!!LOL

Now before all u walker guys start jumping up and down on me this was just a little joke LOL!!!!!!!!!!

nobody will jump on you cause all english dogs are is ticked up walkers,lol

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Posted by jesse walter on 07-07-2006 03:09 PM:

Wild bill

just so u know walkers came from eng dogs. eng dogs were here first.

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Posted by cajunhounds on 07-07-2006 11:13 PM:

i agree with al you english people but i do have a few walker dogs and there sackett and wick stylish banjo and a wipeout zeb females. but other than that it all english

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Posted by wkfii on 07-08-2006 04:56 PM:

Re: Wild bill

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Originally posted by jesse walter
just so u know walkers came from eng dogs. eng dogs were here first.

Now Jessie, there were Walker hounds, or a strain of hounds called Walker, before anyone came up with the broad umbrella concept of calling all the hounds not recognized English to create some indicia of credibility in the brand. Besides, it ought to be called French instead of English. I am sure there are some good French, Frog ... uh English Coonhounds. But that label was created after Walker.

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Posted by Richard Nethery on 07-08-2006 06:14 PM:

I like the English Hounds,

They are kind of like a Walker, with a Half Powder Charge. LOL

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Posted by Robert Starke on 08-08-2006 10:57 AM:

Finley River

Since I have started back to hunting after a 15 year layoff, I have read positive and negative comments on the Finley River strain. The "strain" had/has several branches. For instance, line breeding the same family, a related family line breeding, or an outcross. Not all crosses reproduce. Some have outstanding individuals, but will not reproduce. Examples of various crosses would be Finley River Dan and his sons and grandsons. Finley River Dan and Finley River Joe. A cross that endures to this day with great success is Finley River Dan and Finley River Pete known as Lone Pine. Numerous modern day studs trace to this cross. As with most crosses, garbage in/garbage out. Who made the cross? I am currently blending several families of Finley River hoping to recapture the dogs I used to hunt. Good looking, hard hunting, track driving, big mouthed hard tree dogs with good dispositions.

Posted by chuck west on 10-25-2011 05:39 PM:

BTT

Bring this post out of mothballs ,,some interesting stuff here might help some of the younger hunters on here !!

Posted by egkennel90 on 10-25-2011 06:11 PM:

Wipeout hounds

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Posted by Hopkins/Lipper on 10-25-2011 10:01 PM:

HOUSE'S LIPPER

Well obviously I say LIPPER !! with the new HOUSE'S LIPPER X INSANE JANE
arrival maybe the younger guys can find out what the fuss
was all about !
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Posted by Hunting24/7 on 10-25-2011 10:07 PM:

clover-wild bred.. "simple as black and white" but i do like my wipeout hound also

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Posted by jason2579 on 10-25-2011 10:51 PM:

I too like Wick's Stylish Banjo and got the chance to hunt with him when Terry Daniels owned him here Iowa for a spell i was very young lad then. Plus of course the Spring Creek Rock dogs that we owned which several were directly out of old rock. Some outstanding crosses were made out of Banjo and some of our Rock females. To bad as soon as i hit high school there was different kind of tail i liked chasing plus sports and lost interest in hunting there for awhile Plus it seemed the girls i dated didn't seem to like the furs in the truck or wet dog smell coming off the passenger seat never could figure that one out to me that was the smell of money. But when i got back into hunting i couldn't find a walker i liked but then got one from some stylish breeding and daniels breeding that had old Banjo right there in 3 gene ped so i swooped on him turned out being super nice hound. Still would love to get one out Old Rock again if the chance every rises.

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Posted by l.lyle on 10-26-2011 01:09 AM:

Re: Strains

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Originally posted by Jeff H.
I'm always amazed when people discuss "strains" of Walkers within the breed. So many of these so called strains can be traced back to a few dominate hounds within the breed such as Finley River Chief and Finley River Dan and the descendants of James Merchants Bawling Barney. No doubt Bozo has had his impact and in no way do I mean to take anything away from him but let's look at where he came from. A son of the old Hickory Nut Harry who was sired by Merchant's Bawling Barney. Boone himself goes back to both Barney and Finley River Chief. The Sackett hounds go back to the Yadkin River dogs if I'm not mistaken and I think they go back to Sailor.
Now a couple others that I think also have made a tremendous impact are River Bend Flag,Johnson's Banjo, and House Chief.
It appears to me that James Merchant and Joe House should get alot of the credit for alot of the so called strains of Walkers of today.
I would be interested to know what other's think might constitute a "Strain" or "Line" within the Walker breed because I seem to be held up in a time warp. Some will say that after six or seven generations you will get almost no genetic help from these older hounds from the past but I can't help but wonder how House Lipper would have existed without Tom and Chief and Joe House ,or how Bozo would have been bozo without Harry and would Harry have been harry without Bawling Barney,and James Merchant.
I wouldn't dare leave this thread without mentioning one of the founding fathers of the breed ...Lester NANCE!!
Again.. I would be interested in learning more about what you think constitutes a "strain " within the breed.

It seems they get a "strain" recognition if they are heavily promted and breed the most gyps with reasonable results. I bet ten years from now we will be talking about the Mr Clean strain. LOL

Posted by Caleb Wilson on 10-26-2011 01:49 AM:

river bend

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Posted by Whordel on 10-26-2011 03:32 AM:

The best strains is the ones where they outcrossed them,little bit of Cur,little bit of bird dog,little bit of this and that.I love hounds with pink noses lol.

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Posted by old ben on 10-26-2011 09:21 PM:

rockriver,,,house,,,,tarhill nitro

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Posted by GLANCY'S 7 MILE on 10-27-2011 12:25 AM:

I tend to be fond of the Sackett Jr. Bred hounds! Seems like most of the good ones I've hunted with have had some Sackett Jr. in them!

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Posted by l.lyle on 10-27-2011 12:56 AM:

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I tend to be fond of the Sackett Jr. Bred hounds! Seems like most of the good ones I've hunted with have had some Sackett Jr. in them!

Sackett Jr. had a pup that made Gr Nite and that dog was the sire to my old dog. My old dog never made anything but a coondog that I fed for 13 years. I bred him to a Walker bitch that hunted right untill she was three when she started getting out of beep beep range before she started hunting and I got rid of her. I kept one bitch pup out of that cross. That pup was too much go yonder for me but she wasn't trashy and treed her own starting at about 7 months. I bred her to a leopard figuring that would put some sense back in them and it worked. I bred her back to another leopard. That male pup is now 13 months old and has been running with the old doogs and never see him till you get to the tree since he was 5 months old and never trashed. I know the 6th generation off of a dog can't have too much influence left but they are still hard treeing and accurate dogs. It sure hasn't hurt anything. And now I hunt without a leash.

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