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Posted by john Duemmer on 03-22-2013 10:07 PM:

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 03-22-2013 11:27 PM:

Take a look at this Post ...

Their is a very Good reason for all but one to be Cross Bred ... Or they would never would have been produced ...

http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthrea...eadid=928309635

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Posted by rfreeman on 03-23-2013 01:36 AM:

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I unknowingly purchased a pup with yellow papers. I was like this ain't cool and then it hit me. That dog had to tree a coon before it was registered as English. That's better than breeding handy to ready cause they got papers!

If the dog meets breed standards and its gotta tree a coon before its registered sounds like it could only improve the breed. That's probably why they allow it in the first place.

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Posted by shawn mullinnix on 03-23-2013 04:53 PM:

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Posted by Jonathan Crump on 03-23-2013 11:20 PM:

Shawn I'm curious. The crosses you make are they pure bluetick to pure walker? When grown are more colored like a bluetick, walker or tri with ticks? I have a dark blue english dog that we are going to breed to a walker female later this year. I am excited to see how these pups turn out.

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Posted by shawn mullinnix on 03-24-2013 03:40 AM:

Some of my crosses have been pure Walker X pure Bluetick. The last few years it's been half & half to half & half. I have gotten every color imaginable. Mostly you'll get a tri-color or blue English color. I have gotten some that looked Walker, some that looked Bluetick, and some like my Nuck dog that look more Walker but ticked up.

Posted by Jonathan Crump on 03-24-2013 03:55 AM:

Shawn thank you for the information. Have you sent any pups East of the Mississippi River? My cousin and a friend each have good Bluetick males and we have been talking about getting a female to cross with one of them that will not be of close relation to anything we already have. I like the looks of a Bluetick better than any other myself but the best dog I've ever had was a Bluetick/Walker cross.

Posted by shawn mullinnix on 03-24-2013 02:51 PM:

Hey Jonathan, i have'nt had pups to go that far yet. Mainly i just raise pups for myself. I hope to have some pups around the first part of May. This cross will be half Walker & half Bluetick X half English, quarter Walker, and quarter Blue. Half brother to half sister. I will post pictures of both Sire and Dam when i can.

Posted by shawn mullinnix on 03-24-2013 02:56 PM:

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Posted by shawn mullinnix on 03-24-2013 02:58 PM:

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Posted by n.cash on 03-24-2013 06:30 PM:

Croossbreds

As for as crossbreeds go they should be allowed to be reg.with the breed of choice by breeder.a croossbred hound should be allowed to hunt in major hunts.no matter what if he is a coon dog then he will show it.isn't the world champion suspposed to be the best coondog bar none.

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Posted by bigtimberkennel on 03-24-2013 07:12 PM:

Re: Croossbreds

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As for as crossbreeds go they should be allowed to be reg.with the breed of choice by breeder.a croossbred hound should be allowed to hunt in major hunts.no matter what if he is a coon dog then he will show it.isn't the world champion suspposed to be the best coondog bar none.

Good point

Posted by pigman816 on 03-24-2013 08:11 PM:

Re: Croossbreds

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Originally posted by n.cash
As for as crossbreeds go they should be allowed to be reg.with the breed of choice by breeder.a croossbred hound should be allowed to hunt in major hunts.no matter what if he is a coon dog then he will show it.isn't the world champion susppost to be the best coondog bar none.

Lets say a guy crosses a blue einglish dog to a black and tan, and the pups meet bluetick standard......Why should he be able to register that as a bluetick? More importantly, why should he be forced to lie about what he has versus be able to proudly register it as a crossbred? My point is, I dont want to keep the crossbreds out of hunts or anything else? I just want to call a spade a spade.^^^Jim Harper

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Posted by n.cash on 03-24-2013 09:57 PM:

UKC

They started this whole mess by letting a pure walker dog and bluetick dog be singled reg to the English breed.the best thing to do is let cross breeds be reg grade dogs.especially if the parents or pure reg dogs in there breed .this would let some old blood in every breed be used to help there breed get better.there's alot of people out there got iold blood in there backyard that say a set of pappers don't run and tree the dog does.

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Posted by Jonathan Crump on 03-25-2013 02:19 AM:

TTT

Posted by easttxranch on 03-30-2013 05:44 AM:

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Posted by John Ray on 03-31-2013 04:59 PM:

If it looks like a hound, sounds like a hound, great. The only person a hound has got to suit is the hand that feeds them, not a breed standard or kc. Would enjoy going hunting with one of these fine hounds like shawns nuck dog.

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Posted by boxmanwillie on 03-31-2013 08:12 PM:

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Posted by Timmy Templeton on 04-02-2013 08:46 PM:

MY 2 CENTS

Let them in. If they meet a breed's standard and can tree a coon, then register them. No questions asked. It boils down to this. Hunters in $KC don't mind if they walk away with the money at the end of the night so why should anyone care if they take home the coveted plastic trophy? EVEN at the hallowed breed events. Heaven forbid one of these mixed up rascals with a white foot should steal their thunder. Great thread.

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Posted by easttxranch on 04-05-2013 01:02 PM:

Still would like to hear from someone at UKC

Posted by Mike Hilty on 04-05-2013 02:23 PM:

Room for everyone here, want to breed papers, fine, coondog to coondog fine. Lots of good posts here. Breeds were crossbred to start with, and most bred to whatever was up the road, horses did not travel near as far as we do today to get the dog bred.

Posted by Todd K / UKC on 04-05-2013 02:31 PM:

Yep....I'm thinking about it. Don't hate the idea. We need to revamp our whole single registration process I think. Good thread! Appreciate everyone sharing their opinion on this.

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Posted by pigman816 on 04-05-2013 03:03 PM:

todd

I think it's great that you/UKC are willing to consider things like this. Whether a change is made or not, doesn't matter. The fact that the hunter can make a suggestion and it can be heard is great. Thanks for the response

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Posted by Blacklabel on 04-06-2013 03:38 PM:

Thanks Todd

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Posted by chuck west on 04-06-2013 03:45 PM:

Re: todd

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Originally posted by pigman816
I think it's great that you/UKC are willing to consider things like this. Whether a change is made or not, doesn't matter. The fact that the hunter can make a suggestion and it can be heard is great. Thanks for the response

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