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Posted by riproarinkennel on 10-20-2011 02:18 PM:

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Originally posted by amazingcursouth
Hardwood Dan is a good example. He opened on track just enough, he was a get in there drift a bad track and make it look better than it was kind of coon dog. He could get treed with the meat, with out having to bark all the dang time.

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Posted by amazingcursouth on 10-20-2011 02:53 PM:

yes he Dan was a COON DOG. A good ol fashion coon dog that knew how to use his brain to tree coon. To bad he was not the reproducer. But he is a good example, that just because you win, have all the titles and break records does not mean you can reproduce. Now days if your ALL GRAND you bound to be a reproducer. Dan was coon dog and mr paul is a fine man. He know what a coon dog is and he keeps one on the end of his strap.

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Posted by Harley Smith on 10-20-2011 03:13 PM:

good morning

Posted by Okie Dawg on 10-20-2011 03:52 PM:

Bawling while running does take more breath and does slow one down slightly but think about it. Coyote dogs run further and faster than coon dogs do GENERALLY and most I have heard are wide open on track. So it might slow them down but really not enough to matter. Insane Jane I hear is wide open and gets it done in a hurry.

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Posted by Harley Smith on 10-20-2011 04:18 PM:

are there any videos of insane jane?

Posted by Harley Smith on 10-20-2011 05:03 PM:

Has any one notice how many photos of coon dogs standing on the tree, and how many videos of the dog skips the whole track and starts on the tree. Seems like most people are only interested in their dog on the wood. They must be tree dog people. Of course they get excited when the dog strikes but thats only because they know their dog is on the way to the tree. Sounds like my kind of people. If you are a tree dog person and you are living in denial examine yourself and come join us we will except you the way you are. Its ok if you are only concerned with treeing a coon and seeing your dog on the wood, they are many others like you. lol

Posted by Okie Dawg on 10-20-2011 05:12 PM:

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Originally posted by Harley Smith
Has any one notice how many photos of coon dogs standing on the tree, and how many videos of the dog skips the whole track and starts on the tree. Seems like most people are only interested in their dog on the wood. They must be tree dog people. Of course they get excited when the dog strikes but thats only because they know their dog is on the way to the tree. Sounds like my kind of people. If you are a tree dog person and you are living in denial examine yourself and come join us we will except you the way you are. Its ok if you are only concerned with treeing a coon and seeing your dog on the wood, they are many others like you. lol

Us track AND tree hound people have dogs that are faster at tracking than we are at walking with a camera. Makes it a little harder to film the tracking part. LMAO

Posted by Harley Smith on 10-20-2011 05:31 PM:

I here ya!

Posted by eric carter on 10-20-2011 06:12 PM:

I know it says it in the rules a out silent dogs being scratched but where in breed standers does it say all should b open trailing dogs I didn't say that on all breeds unless I missed it

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Posted by Harley Smith on 10-20-2011 06:47 PM:

you go eric!

Posted by goodtimekennel on 10-20-2011 07:44 PM:

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Originally posted by eric carter
I know it says it in the rules a out silent dogs being scratched but where in breed standers does it say all should b open trailing dogs I didn't say that on all breeds unless I missed it

IM NOT SURE BUT
i do believe it is the breed standards an ukc honors all breed standards

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Posted by l.lyle on 10-20-2011 07:58 PM:

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Originally posted by eric carter
I know it says it in the rules a out silent dogs being scratched but where in breed standers does it say all should b open trailing dogs I didn't say that on all breeds unless I missed it

I know it says it for Leopard Hounds. That's the way UKC let them in.

Posted by eric carter on 10-20-2011 08:15 PM:

Its not in all of them go read

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Posted by l.lyle on 10-20-2011 08:30 PM:

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Its not in all of them go read

LOL That's funny. Now that Leopards can compete with the big boys they have to open while another hound breed can be silent? That's funny!

Posted by Okie Dawg on 10-20-2011 09:15 PM:

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Originally posted by eric carter
Its not in all of them go read

Breed standards are talking about physical appearance not tracking and treeing traits.

Posted by eric carter on 10-20-2011 09:41 PM:

Then y does it say it on some and not the others y does it talk about theth kind of voice they should have on't hear them barking on the bench if ur at a show and a cat runs by and they bark do they get scratched or minus just wondering

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 10-20-2011 09:46 PM:

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Then y does it say it on some and not the others y does it talk about theth kind of voice they should have on't hear them barking on the bench if ur at a show and a cat runs by and they bark do they get scratched or minus just wondering

LOL got me....................

Posted by Harley Smith on 10-20-2011 09:48 PM:

under breed standards , characteristics it describes what type of mouth they have

Posted by Harley Smith on 10-20-2011 09:50 PM:

if he is continuosly silent. so give him several chances he might just be having an off night. lol

Posted by eric carter on 10-20-2011 09:53 PM:

And some say open trailers some say free tonguer some don't mention trailing at all

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Posted by Harley Smith on 10-20-2011 09:54 PM:

ok, see you guys tomorrow. I have a first strike tricolor english female who will tree but wont stay on the tree for sale. shes sounds pretty on track but she wont stay on tree. she never stops choppin just wont stay on tree.

Posted by Bob Hennessey on 10-20-2011 10:57 PM:

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Originally posted by eric carter
Then y does it say it on some and not the others y does it talk about theth kind of voice they should have on't hear them barking on the bench if ur at a show and a cat runs by and they bark do they get scratched or minus just wondering

I was at a hunt one time when a cat ran under the benches and across the yard. The judge didn't scratch any of them but had to wait untill they got the dogs back on the bench. It was funny a couple didn't even move and the others the handlers had them mostly by the tail. Problem most of the people showing also hunted those dogs in the hunt. Don't know how many cats were treed.LOL!

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 10-20-2011 11:08 PM:

LOL If they would run feral cats around here that is all you would tree. You see them everywere.

Posted by Tully on 10-21-2011 03:58 AM:

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Originally posted by deschmidt27

If not, does anyone care about hunting a hound that looks and acts like a hound? If you want to hunt a fast "tree dog", hunt a cur. If someone found a yorkshire terrier trait that would be advantageous in a hunt or put more meat over-head, should we all start making that cross???

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Posted by gfults on 10-21-2011 12:49 PM:

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Originally posted by davery
If a dog opens and put a tree on the end he or she is not a babbler,if a silent dog falled tree and the handler called him struck and treed at the same time he needs to be warned,then be scratched for lying about strike points.

WRONG! According to the RULES, a dog must be called struck before it can be called treed! They also say a treed dog that is not called treed can be scratched under the stationary rule. Therefore the RULES are forcing you to strike and tree your dog even when the dog just falls treed, unless you wanna get scratched. Heres a question for ya: If you're judging a cast and a dog just falls treed, and the handler of that dog does not strike the dog, are you going to award him strike points and minus him?? If you say yes then you'd be right, and if you do minus him for NOT striking the dog, explain to me how you could scratch him for striking the dog that just fell treed?? Rules say dogs MUST be called struck before called treed!!

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