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Posted by RedBones4me on 12-19-2008 01:13 PM:

Thanks to Josh, Randy and everyone else who has had the courage to take the oath and put God and Country before themselves

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Posted by Kenny Eads on 12-19-2008 02:33 PM:

Thanks Josh, Randy and all our troops here at home and abroad. You are true heros for what you scarafice for all Americans and the less fortunate.

AnnieP you are a disgrace but you know what they are still gonna fight for you too I bet. lol I got an idea why don't you trade him places for six months.

Posted by perry co cooner on 12-19-2008 03:10 PM:

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PS...Rip, I don't hink you'll find any of your "loony left" here. I'm all for taking out the terrorists. I just think there's a right way and a wrong way to go about it. The right way raises us up and shows the world we are better than they are (the terrorists). The wrong way makes us terrorists ourselves. [/B]

What's the "right" way to take out the terrorist Annie if you don't mind me asking? It's my understanding that if one side doesn't play by the "rules" and the other side does, the side that is cheating will always win.

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Posted by perry co cooner on 12-19-2008 03:21 PM:

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AnnieP you are a disgrace but you know what they are still gonna fight for you too I bet. lol I got an idea why don't you trade him places for six months. [/B]

I was thinking the SAME THING!!!!!!!!! GOOD POST!!!

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Posted by Wingman66 on 12-19-2008 04:59 PM:

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It's my understanding that if one side doesn't play by the "rules" and the other side does, the side that is cheating will always win.

Kinda like competitition coonhunting...(Sorry had to throw some humor in at this point)

Talk about beating a dead horse. We have beat him till his bones are beat into powder. Sooner or later we are all gonna have to quit beating the ground he died on. What are we gonna do people? Are we going to wipe each other off the face of the earth until no one is left? Who's gonna be left to say they were right and the other side was wrong?

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Posted by AnnieP on 12-19-2008 05:51 PM:

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Originally posted by perry co cooner
What's the "right" way to take out the terrorist Annie if you don't mind me asking? It's my understanding that if one side doesn't play by the "rules" and the other side does, the side that is cheating will always win.

If both sides behave the same way, what difference does it make who wins?

Abu Ghraib, anyone? Charles Graner? Lynndie England? Brigadier General Janis Karpinski? The others who were sentenced to federal prison time and dishonorably discharged? Do you really approve of that kind of behavior from the US Military? Somehow, I don't think so. You're too busy attacking me to stop and think of what you're really advocating.

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Originally posted by Kenny Eads
AnnieP you are a disgrace but you know what they are still gonna fight for you too I bet. lol I got an idea why don't you trade him places for six months.

Why, exactly, am I a disgrace? Because I had the nerve to tell a man who chose to serve in Iraq that he didn't understand what I said? Because I choose to believe in the ideals this country is supposed to stand for? Because I didn't kowtow to someone who voluntarily enlisted and was sent to Iraq and chooses to go back? Choosing to serve in the military doesn't make anyone better than me. It simply means they made a different choice than I did.

Call me a disgrace if you want to. I don't know you and you don't know me. Your opinions are just that - opinions. They can't hurt me just like mine can't hurt you. And since my opinions can't hurt you, here's another one. I've always felt that it takes a small minded person to make a personal attack when involved in a discussion. I can disagree with you without calling you names or casting slurs on your integrity. Why can't you?

Annie

Posted by perry co cooner on 12-19-2008 07:19 PM:

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Originally posted by AnnieP
If both sides behave the same way, what difference does it make who wins?

Annie

So now our Troops in Iraq are behaving like the Terrorists? I didn't see anything on the news showing our Troops cutting off anyone's head. I didn't see anything on the news about our Troops dressing like civilians and strapping bombs on themselves. I didn't see anything on the news about our Troops strapping bombs to children? I didn't think you saw anything like that either but had to ask. Don't talk about things you know nothing about it proves your ignorance rather than just letting people think it. Does it really make no difference to you who wins the war on terror? WOW

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Posted by perry co cooner on 12-19-2008 07:24 PM:

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Originally posted by AnnieP
If both sides behave the same way, what difference does it make who wins?

Abu Ghraib, anyone? Charles Graner? Lynndie England? Brigadier General Janis Karpinski? The others who were sentenced to federal prison time and dishonorably discharged? Do you really approve of that kind of behavior from the US Military? Somehow, I don't think so. You're too busy attacking me to stop and think of what you're really advocating.

Why, exactly, am I a disgrace? Because I had the nerve to tell a man who chose to serve in Iraq that he didn't understand what I said? Because I choose to believe in the ideals this country is supposed to stand for? Because I didn't kowtow to someone who voluntarily enlisted and was sent to Iraq and chooses to go back? Choosing to serve in the military doesn't make anyone better than me. It simply means they made a different choice than I did.

Call me a disgrace if you want to. I don't know you and you don't know me. Your opinions are just that - opinions. They can't hurt me just like mine can't hurt you. And since my opinions can't hurt you, here's another one. I've always felt that it takes a small minded person to make a personal attack when involved in a discussion. I can disagree with you without calling you names or casting slurs on your integrity. Why can't you?

Annie

I think because he did serve our country it does make him better than you. Why did you chose not to serve our country? Is it because you feel you better serve our country by bad mouthing our Troops and saying they're stooping to the levels of terrorists?

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Posted by Randy Tallon on 12-19-2008 07:58 PM:

When you enlist in the military you don't have a choice where you go. You get a set of orders and you go. I can't believe you come on here and bash this man for going where his country ordered him to go. He felt his cause was just to go back as a civilian. I, really, think you need to take a good look at what kind of a site you are on. This is a "coonhound" site. In that "coonhound" world there are a lot of us "redneck" kind of gals/fellers on here. A lot of us have the Mom and apple pie kind of mentality or as our President to be would say, Bible and Rifle type of people (a rifle, generally, goes with a coondog....). I think you might want to go to "Google" and find another site where you can proudly wear your tie died shirt and love beads. I get this strange feeling that you don't "hunt" dogs. Grab you gun, Annie! The enemy is amongst us!!!!!! Merry Christmas. (I hope I didn't offend you....you might be one of those Scientology types...) If I happened to mispell something or I had a typo here or there, I mite jist look up my drill instructor fer not learnin' me any betr.....

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Posted by AnnieP on 12-19-2008 08:26 PM:

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Originally posted by perry co cooner
So now our Troops in Iraq are behaving like the Terrorists?

How did we get from discussing generalities to direct accusations? You lost me a step or so back, I think.

quote:
Originally posted by perry co cooner
I think because he did serve our country it does make him better than you. Why did you chose not to serve our country? Is it because you feel you better serve our country by bad mouthing our Troops and saying they're stooping to the levels of terrorists?

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Originally posted by Randy Tallon
I can't believe you come on here and bash this man for going where his country ordered him to go.

I think maybe Mr. Howard isn't the only one here who could benefit from a reading comprehension course.

And that's it for me on this topic, gentlemen. Now, of course you'll say I quit because I was losing or because I knew I was wrong. The fact is, someone reminded me that when you argue with a fool, it's very hard to tell the difference. It's also very hard to discuss a subject intelligently with people who just don't seem to be able to comprehend what they read.

Good Afternoon, gentlemen

Annie

Posted by prater1 on 12-19-2008 08:36 PM:

Good she's gone, now maybe we can get rid of Graf...oops..I mean Kyle W. Graf. Then maybe we can actually have discussions without people much higher than our intelligence and knowledge of the subjects set us straight.....LMAO You won't ever be able to have a discussion with a know it all type of person that is just looking to argue their point...right or wrong..they'll never admit it!

Brandon

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Posted by perry co cooner on 12-19-2008 08:38 PM:

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Originally posted by AnnieP

Abu Ghraib, anyone? Charles Graner? Lynndie England? Brigadier General Janis Karpinski? The others who were sentenced to federal prison time and dishonorably discharged? Do you really approve of that kind of behavior from the US Military? Somehow, I don't think so. You're too busy attacking me to stop and think of what you're really advocating.
Annie

This state from you isn't a generality it's naming actual people and situations. I comprehend everything you said in your posts as did everyone else. Earlier you stated that "you might not agree with what I said but you would defend my right to say it" How would you defend it? By sitting on your butt and talking? Thank God our fore fathers didn't defend things like you do or we'd still be under the jurisdiction of England!!!!!!!!!! I would rather you just say "Thank you" to our men and women in the military and quit arguing with me. And FYI it's a shame those fine folks were put in prison. All that crap at Abu Grab was over hyped by the liberal media and the liberal politicians that were trying to make President Bush look bad at the expense of our Soldiers.

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Posted by prater1 on 12-19-2008 08:46 PM:

You know one other thing that has bugged me about a comment Annie posted. She said "freedom of Speech was a birth right???Maybe she doesn't comprehend very well herself, because before our goverment made changes and fought for our rights, we weren't allowed to speak freely and could be put to death for speaking out against our government and it's officials. I think they all should have thought a little harder when they gave women rights...LOL

Brandon

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Posted by Josh Howard on 12-19-2008 09:20 PM:

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Originally posted by AnnieP
Mr - I sincerely hope you follow verbal orders better than you can read. Perhaps instead of going back to Iraq you should go back to school and take a course in reading comprehension.

Annie

Annie, I'm not going to enter a pissing contest with you. I ask that you do not call me Mr. nor Mr. Howard. Josh or Howard will do. I do not want nor ask for any respect from you or anyone else that is willing to assume our troops do not act with honor. You mentioned a few names that got into trouble for doing things they're not supposed to. I can name you several more that got into trouble for taking cash from contractors and awarding contracts simply based on under the table "cash awards" they received rather than following the standards for awarding contracts. I can once again assure you, I don't need any kind of reading comprehension to understand or comprehend what you are saying, assuming and implying about our troops. I've had some of the best training and been to some of the best schools the USA has to offer. Care to know where the # 1 academic school in the nation is and who attends and who teaches??? Well I'm sure you wouldn't give them enough credit, and I'm sure you didn't guess it, but it is the US Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs. I don't expect you to give them any credit either....You typed it, and I simply read it. Furthermore, you mentioned a little later on that it takes a small minded person to make a personal attack on another person when involved in a discussion. I'm 99% sure you just contradicted yourself there. What about the casting slurs on their integrity and intelligence?? Another contradiction? I don't have a problem knowing you again contradicted what you are saying. When you mention troops and war, you mention 1!! You are talking about 1 team. When you say inaccurate and negative things, you are saying that about them as a whole. Yeah we have a few that made bad decisions, but as a team, as a whole, and as for the servicemen and women of the United States of America's Armed Forces goes, they act with honor!!!! They are doing great things!! they follow written and verbal orders very well!!
I would recommend you take some training and receive some experience some kind of way to be able to actually carry on a conversation you are portraying to have knowledge of like some of us on here have 1st hand experience and knowledge with. BTW, the media does not count. You know due to the fact I need that reading comprehension course, I wonder what you possibly could have been implying or meaning when you wrote gentlemen in italics??? I would be willing to bet it didn't mean you you wrote it as and you wasn't thinking gentlemen when you wrote it....you are right, I did voluntarily join, and I didn't have to volunteer to go over there again as a Civilian to ensure our servicemen and women receive the highest quality of equipment from the contractors that are re-building and sustaining them. It is people like Mr. Tallon's daughter that serve and protect and act with honor that I volunteered to go back again and to be in a position where I can make a difference in some of the equipment we used to recieve, not to mention the young man that was going to be forced to go has never served nor been away from home and is recently married and was recently blessed with the birth of his 1st child. I make my decisions, live with them, and I'm very happy and proud of the decisions I made and make. Carry on Annie and believe what you want. It pisses me off that people like you believe everything you see and read and then choose to group the people you see and read about with everyone else and assume our troops do anything less than serve with honor!!!!

Mr. Tallon, cooner, prater, Mr. Eads, redbones 4 me, and anyone else I happened to miss, Thank you very much for the words and the support. I do not expect it nor ask for it, but it is a warm feeling to know the ones like yall that do support our troops. Again I say thanks and it is definitely appreciated! Mr. Tallon, I do think I will be stopping there for a day or two. I'm not sure, but I do believe I was told I would be. If I do, I will definitely stop by to tell her hi and to tell her thanks for what she is doing!!!

Merry Christmas to all of you, even you Annie!!!!

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Posted by Josh Howard on 12-19-2008 09:23 PM:

I did forget one...Cripple Creek, thank you very much too!!!

Merry Christmas!

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Posted by prater1 on 12-19-2008 09:29 PM:

Merry Christmas to you also Josh, be safe over there. We all appreciate everything our troops do wether we agree or disagree, even Annie and others who would argue they don't. They are free to say and do because the honor and bravery of others that have given them that right. Merry Christmas to all and to all a goodnight...LOL

Brandon

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Posted by Plottluvr on 12-19-2008 09:33 PM:

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Originally posted by liberalcreek
So I guess by your own thought process, we should have allowed Germany to take over Europe and wipe pout the entire Jewish race??

It is people like yourself that our founding father warned us about.

You take care of your own BEFORE you help others. WE don't need to be spending billions upon billions of dollars in a foreign country when it should be spent here on schools and the hungry. DO NOT begin to tell me what to say or feel etc.

Posted by Plottluvr on 12-19-2008 09:38 PM:

Re: Re: Feel the same.........

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Originally posted by liberalcreek
Someone who supported a man who voted 4 times to deny born alive infants medical care and even advocated the murder of his own grandchild,doesnt have any right to even acknowledge, "the good book".

As for people not agreeing with you. You should expect ridicule when you support someone who is anti American, pro terrorism, and supports a racist church that preached against America.

Whats that old saying??? "If your gonna be stupid you have to be tough."

Get Tough Knox.

I'm gonna tell ya something liberalcreek. I am pro-choice and I don't give a flying rats Arse what anyone feels about it. I don't believe in God and am half Middle Eastern on my fathers side. So if you want to take pot shots at me go right ahead.

That pretty much goes for anyone else on here.

There are times when I am ashamed of this country. When a country cares more about another countries well being before its own citizens that is sad.

Posted by Plottluvr on 12-19-2008 09:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by prater1
You know one other thing that has bugged me about a comment Annie posted. She said "freedom of Speech was a birth right???Maybe she doesn't comprehend very well herself, because before our goverment made changes and fought for our rights, we weren't allowed to speak freely and could be put to death for speaking out against our government and it's officials. I think they all should have thought a little harder when they gave women rights...LOL

Brandon

Can you say ENEMY COMBATANT??? You can be picked up for NOT agreeing with our own government and held indefinitely without trial or charges. Thank the patriot act for that one. Your neighbor could say Bush or OBama or whomever is doing a piss poor job etc and POOF he's gone. That is our wonderful government at work.

Citizens should not fear their government....the government should fear its citizens. It has long since stopped being "The voice of the people".

Posted by liberalcreek on 12-19-2008 09:47 PM:

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Originally posted by Plottluvr
So if you want to take pot shots at me go right ahead.

No "pot shots" from me are needed. You make a fool of yourself on your own.

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Posted by Plottluvr on 12-19-2008 09:51 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Feel the same.........

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Originally posted by liberalcreek
No "pot shots" from me are needed. You make a fool of yourself on your own.

Love you too.

Posted by Family on 12-19-2008 09:56 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Feel the same.........

quote:
Originally posted by Plottluvr
I'm gonna tell ya something liberalcreek. I am pro-choice and I don't give a flying rats Arse what anyone feels about it. I don't believe in God and am half Middle Eastern on my fathers side. So if you want to take pot shots at me go right ahead.

That pretty much goes for anyone else on here.

There are times when I am ashamed of this country. When a country cares more about another countries well being before its own citizens that is sad.

oh boy.............................

Dont let your emotions cloud your judgement.

go coonhuntin, stop worryin about ..."others"...(typical american)

just love your nieghbor.

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Posted by Randy Tallon on 12-19-2008 10:02 PM:

Josh, I have just one thing to say to you....Huuaaaaahhh! That, by the uninformed, probably, thinks it's some sort of inhuman guttoral noise. Stay safe. I wish you God Speed. Come home safely. Plotlvr, be careful. Statements like the ones you made and possible ties to Middle Eastern "concerns" could possibly have someone listening to your blog entries.....

Posted by liberalcreek on 12-19-2008 10:38 PM:

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Originally posted by Plottluvr
Love you too.

Someone who advocates for the murder of innocent babies knows nothing of real "love".

Go fool someone else.

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Posted by Nukem on 12-19-2008 10:38 PM:

ya know i find it incredibly hilarious how some of you can sit there and trash bush, saying he's an idiot this or idiot that but the problem is its an idiot callin the man an idiot! so please if you're gonna call him dumb stupid or anything whatever it may be learn how to spell so you too don't look like a dumb arse!

thanks to all who support our boys and girls in the sandbox and if you dont like what they do feel free to go stand in front of them so they dont have to get shot at

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