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Holly - no worries. As I said, the Min Pin is used so much to show how other breeds should not move that it is very common to see the movement described incorrectly in the comparisons because of the focus on "hackney"

And - shame on me - I misquoted the standard - it should be:

" ..a high-stepping, reaching, free and easy gait.."

Joanne

Dear Judge,
When Judging the Rottweiler remember it is a moderate breed.
Not over done,or large.It is also a working breed.
If the dog has a hard making it around a small ring without passing out,it is not a good example of the breed.

Also if you find a DQ,don't tell the owner and then give the dog Breed...DQ it...

Dear Judge,
You are a Judge and should sound knowledgeable.
I sure hope I never hear in the BIS ring(another Judge say,yes this is what a Judge said)
My Best in show dog is the dog who looked like he was having the most fun...What standard is that in?

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Silken Windhounds

Dear Judge,

The Silken Windhound standard states the height of the breed as "From 18½ to 23½ inches (24-60 cm). Dogs over or under the ideal are to be penalized to the extent of the deviation."

We are really struggling with size in our breed so please pay close attention and penalized as needed. Bigger does not equal better.

The breed is supposed to be a functional, coated, MEDIUM-SIZED sighthound.

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First ALCH and UAGI Silken
Second CT and URO1 Silken
Multiple altered RBIS
Mulitple Group 1st

Future home of RioKin Hounds (currently hunting for my foundation Silken Windhound girl)

Dear Judge:
Please remember that the Coton is a rectangular dog with a convex topline. The tail is set on low and reaches to the hocks. When a coton is moving, its tail may be carried gaily over its back. A Coton should NEVER have a candle tail! If the tail is set on low, it is impossible for the tail to point straight up toward the ceiling yet we see these dogs being put up all of the time.

Also, the coat of a Coton is supposed to be "cottony". Believe it or not, I have had a judge tell me that they couldn't put my dog up for breed because its coat was "too cottony"! The coat should never be shiny, silky, coarse or frizzy.

Our breed takes short strides but should cover a lot of ground and appear to be free and flowing - never choppy. The convex topline should be visible even when moving.

Last of all - pigment. Lack of complete pigment is a DQ. Our standard says that black or dark brown pigment are equally acceptable.

There are many judges that haven't a clue about our breed standard and judge us as maltese etc. Thank you all for taking a moment to read over the breed standard.

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Kathie Treacy
Palmetto Cotons
"All for the love of the precious little island dogs from Madagascar - The Coton De Tulear"

Dear judge.....when looking at the Great Pyrenees please pay attention to front reach, Our breed solely lacks in this area. Most think if the dog's front leg moves forward, that equates to front reach; watch for the elbow to move forward.

Also, our dogs should not look like the Borzoi with tall thin legs and a collie type head. This is a French style of Pyrenees, not the American style. Most of these types of dogs cannot move in the front nor in the rear.

Thank you

GrendsLori Great Pyrenees
Home of:
Multi BIS UKC/ Multi Group Placer AKC Ch. Summerhill's Good As Gold
Multi BIS UKC/AKC Ch. Summerhill's The Gift Top Ten #7 finalist
Ch. GrendsLori Golden Promise
Ch. Goodspice The Missing Man

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GrendsLori

Dear judge.....when looking at the Great Pyrenees please pay attention to front reach, Our breed solely lacks in this area. Most think if the dog's front leg moves forward, that equates to front reach; watch for the elbow to move forward.

Also, our dogs should not look like the Borzoi with tall thin legs and a collie type head. This is a French style of Pyrenees, not the American style. Most of these types of dogs cannot move in the front nor in the rear.

Thank you

GrendsLori Great Pyrenees
Home of:
Multi BIMBS/ RBIMS UKC/ Multi Group Placer AKC Ch. Summerhill's Good As Gold
Multi BIMBS RBIMBS UKC/AKC Ch. Summerhill's The Gift Top Ten #7 finalist
Ch. GrendsLori Golden Promise
Ch. Goodspice The Missing Man

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GrendsLori

Dear Judge

Please use the option of withholding ribbons when needed! The Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever should not be slinking about the ring, with it's belly two inches off the floor, nor should it sway to the side when you come to examine it.

Please, this temperment issue should not be rewarded in this or any breed.

Please, Please, withhold ribbons and kindly inform the exhibitor why.

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Marsha M, mother of Jessica RN, who owns Annie the toller who has 8 Best Altered in Shows, and Secret, the American Water Spaniel,who is now a UKC CH.

Dear Judge, thank you for your time... I realize with the numerious breeds you see it can be difficult to remember each little detail off the top of your head. Exspecially when you don't see certian breeds very often.

When you see a Briard could you please remember to check for double dewclaws on the back legs. This is a disqualification for not having 2.

Dear Judge

Please do not hesitate to refer to a breed standard while my breed is in the ring.

This reassures me that you are reviewing the standard in case there might be a question that you don't have the answer for.

Please don't hesitate to ask me questions about my breed after it is judged. That is what we are there for, to educate the public and the judges if need be.

thank you

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Marsha M, mother of Jessica RN, who owns Annie the toller who has 8 Best Altered in Shows, and Secret, the American Water Spaniel,who is now a UKC CH.

dear Judge,

I am new to the UKC, and have just finished my first UKC show ring experience. coming from a breed club i would like to ad this:
chest size is very important in the PRT, as well as the other spannable breeds. to do it correctly your hands must squeeze the dog a little, not just touch the chest. the chest size will make or break a true hunting dog. also PRTS should be in hard working condition, but are not as muscled as rat terriers. more the difference in thoroughbreds and quarter horses

I totally agree that a ribbon can be withheld if the Toller is "slinking about the ring with its belly 2 inches of the floor", etc. Let me be clear that I did not and do not want this behavior rewarded. BUT we are working on this temperament issue, through classes and continuing to expose the 9 mo. old puppy to the show ring with all of the distractions and fearsome things that cannot be replicated outside the show venue. A little patience please, work in progress! Dear Judge, could you think about large, dangling, swinging jewelry when you are bending over puppies in the ring? Some puppies find these distracting, tempting or frightening, when hanging over their heads. Thanks all, I do appreciate the efforts of so many judges helping the puppies acclimate to the ring!

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lsullivan

I have to agree that not only puppies get spooked but full grown adult show dogs that are "supposed" to be able to relate to anything in the ring has been known to get off kilter a bit once in a while - when I have seen a judge with a long necklace, jewlery, rings, hats, or even once a judge missing a arm that left the sleeve flopping around a bit spooked the dog. All I am saying is that it happens to them all and to a puppy is just a growing experience. I cant see any judge awarding such behavior other than just maybe making the puppy have a positive experience and providing a positive memory for it perhaps... just keep working on it and see what happens when the puppy meets the same situation again then perhaps if the same senario happens after exhaustive work put in - I may say a issue may exist. Good luck - we ALL have been there, or WILL be at some point if have not been blessed with some type of problem child!

"dear judge", please pay attention to the dogs at hand and not your friends.

kelley

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CAN YOU SPEAK ENGLISH

Re: Silken Windhounds

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The standard states the height of the breed as "From 18½ to 23½ inches (24-60 cm). Dogs over or under the ideal are to be penalized to the extent of the deviation."

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Siberian Huskies

Dear Judges,
Thank you for all the difficult decisions you make but PLEASE remember, first and foremost, when judging Siberians that this is a working breed that needs to be able to move. A dog that looks pretty when stacking but falls apart running around the ring is never an appropriate choice. The tail should NOT touch or snap against the back. This is not a Malamute. Please also remember, according to our standard in all registries, Siberian Huskies of any color are acceptable. This includes piebalds, solid whites, solid blacks and even those with heavy, dark masks! Yes they really are Siberians. The only patterns that are NOT acceptable (and they are patterns not colors) are Merle and Brindle because historically they have never been in our breed, so the appearance of Merle or Brindle is the result of a mixed breeding and they should be excused.
You can find a database here showing examples of the wide variety of colors and markings you will find in the breed.
http://www.huskycolors.com/colors.html
Please do not ignore a dog with nice structure and movement solely due to unusual markings. We are not offended by having a judge re-read the standard in the ring or asking questions about the breed. Thank you for your consideration!

WARNING! THIS POST CONTAINS MATERIAL INTENDED FOR IMMATURE AUDIENCES. READER DISCRETION IS ADVISED.

Dear $*&^@* Judge,
I know that when you judged my (insert your breed here) you had the best of intentions but your obvious lack of knowledge of the breed standard stands out like a turd in a punch bowl. I am certain that my (insert your breed here) was the finest example of a (insert your breed here) that you ever will see. Oh, I'm sorry, you obviously can't see. As an apology I will send to you a Braille copy of the (insert your breed here) standard.

And though you have been dissed on many a list, forum and yahoo group, don't take it personally. I'm certain you can't help yourself.

My personal list of judges approved to judge (insert your breed here)s has gotten so small that only a handful of judges deserve to be graced by an entry of my (insert your breed here). Just remember that the next time you see me in your ring showing my (insert your breed here), I should be put up for, not only breed, but Best In Show. But if you see me outside your ring while you judge (insert your breed here)s, pointing and jacking my jaw, please understand that I have only the nicest, most pleasant things to say about you and hope that everyone within 1/2 mile can hear me clearly. And if they can't I'll be back here Monday morning on this message board repeating it for everyone.

Thanks for your time and I hope to see you soon. Ta Ta

Signed,
Not At All Kennel-Blinded


PS - here is a link to my picture just in case you forget what I look like www.monkeyface.org

PPS - and here is a link to a picture of my dog, just in case you happen to look at the low end of the lead. www.moremonkeyface.org

PPPS - I wouldn't do your job for a million bucks! (or 25 Euros, whichever is greater)

Houndawgs - I guess you're being factitious, but I really don't understand why.

There are special judging requirements of breeds including American Eskimo, Treeing Fox Terriers, APBT and BSDs, all of which require club recommendations and apprenticeship. All besides BSD judging also requires a 2 year provisional judge status.

That should really be in place for all breeds.

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Originally posted by yukidomari
Treeing Fox Terriers

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lol! yes indeed!

Toy. was thinking of feists. but yes Toy Fox Terriers have special judging requirements too.

ETA: And remember, a judge himself started this thread.

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Originally posted by yukidomari
ETA: And remember, a judge himself started this thread.

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No, never had the pleasure!

Do you? And is it relevant? The opening post seems pretty clear what he was looking for, and I don't think the thread deviated much. Has it?

Yes I do. And yes if you know David it is relevant.

David. if you don't think its funny as intended then I shall delete it in its entirety.

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Originally posted by Houndawgs
Yes I do. And yes if you know David it is relevant.

David. if you don't think its funny as intended then I shall delete it in its entirety.

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I do not think the post was started by David as a joke,,, he himself offered advice to people judging his breed.

I feel it was a serious post.

Ken of KnD
www.kndkennels.com

I laughed out loud...

Houndawgs, I laughed out loud...a lot....my dogs were looking at me funny. LMAO!! I guess that means I must be immature...hehehe :P

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Firefly Dobermans

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