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Since Ron was mentioned how many father / son combinations have placed in the top 4 in the UKC world?

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The dogs name that won the $5000 was GROVER owned by John Bishop in IL. Why do I hunt Blueticks? Becouse I do like the brother hood of the breed, When hunting a walker if you winning you have them standing in line to say I know him but with our group I don't feel that way. We all get together and shot the bull as friend not groupys. Hunting Blueticks is more of a tradition to me I like hunting a dog that runs a track and has a HOUND mouth, a 100 bpm. tree dog does not inpress me near as much as a good locate( locate meaning one log bark) not double or tripple chop, or a sqeal. My hounds hjave no problem splitting from any dog that doen't have the meatand by the way I never have had a problem winning with a bluetick. I may not win the big ones but what I do win i win honest and I don't play every rule to get it done. Have I every hunted with a better walker dog than my hound ,yes but their is always going to be a dog thats better than yours thats just the fact. I have hunted against lots of big name walker but I wouldn't trade my hounds for any of them !!
Please doen't let this start any bashing wouldn't want thatbetween sportmen!!

Is it true that there is a bounty of $5000.00 from each of the Bluetick assc, to the first Bluetick to win the UKC world hunt which would be 10,000 dollars? I have heard this but do not know the facts, please help me here.

NO that is NOT true.

blues

Normally I would steer away from this one but dont' agree with the opinion that blues are capable of treeing more coons when tracking gets tough. I have no issue with either breed. But I am concerned with all the competitions and super stakes and all that, walker breeders may be on the road to breed walker dogs that cannot tree coons when the tracking gets tough. I have owned Walker dogs that could trail a cold track as good as any breed. Had a good a mouth as any breed. Had a Finley River Dog (grandson to Chief) that was cold nosed, bawl mouth, would not be outdone on cold tracking by any dog. Bawl mouth tree dog, didn't blow the top out of a tree but would be there and have the meat. My only complaint, and it was minor, didn't like his color. He looked like a big beagle. I prefer the old open spotted walkers with black head and pumpkin seeds above the eyes (guess as Dave Dean claims, they get that from their Black & Tan ancestors.) Sadly, my fear is that these types of Walkers are going to get less popular and rare. I hope I am wrong. I am a pleasure hunter and have hunted my share of "go yonder" dogs. Too old for that crap anymore. If a dog cannot find a coon in the woods or at least the section I am hunting in, come back to me. That is why I have a pickup. That's my opinion, but opinions are like rectums, everyone has one.

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So some on here are claiming walkers walk on water ? I have hunted with good ones and bad ones just like in bluetick breed which i own but i am going to get own here and blow smoke up somebody behind like some of the walker guys do ! Everyone knows its a walker dog world but only to the walker owners ! No one should bash another breed if that"s what that man chooses to hunt ! My best hunting buddy hunt a walker but just ask him if his dog is better than mine ? Some threads get way out on a limb !

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Originally posted by Bradley E. Hall
Is it true that there is a bounty of $5000.00 from each of the Bluetick assc, to the first Bluetick to win the UKC world hunt which would be 10,000 dollars? I have heard this but do not know the facts, please help me here.

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I got Blue English Dogs

Had an old man tell me several years ago "Don't worry what anybody thinks hunt a dog that you like to look at and you will continue to hunt " he said he liked B&T but got off with Walkers & Redbones and finally gave it up because he didn't care that much for the dogs anymore. Sounded to me like don't leave your first true love. Alot of people are color blind and I admire that but to me a Walker is a fox hound And thats because my grandpa had walkers and ran fox with them. JMO Hunt with a COONDOG

Gee Whiz people, lifes too short to not be able to laugh a little about these ol fleabags we pack around no matter what color they are.
My gosh youd think someone was insulting your wife and kids.

If yall were really that serious about the quality of your dogs, you certainly wouldnt be packing a blue dog around. LMAO

J/K fellers, relax and laugh a little.

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Originally posted by elvis
Gee Whiz people, lifes too short to not be able to laugh a little about these ol fleabags we pack around no matter what color they are.
My gosh youd think someone was insulting your wife and kids.

If yall were really that serious about the quality of your dogs, you certainly wouldnt be packing a blue dog around. LMAO

J/K fellers, relax and laugh a little.

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Dont get me wrong there are some decent blue dogs but im not goint to sit here and watch people down my breed when its completly ignorant to down the walker breed. How much more could they possibly win? Sure some of my statments went too far but im just trying to make a point. I hunt alot 5 to 6 nights a week, i know what a coondog is and im one of those guys thats hard to please. Theres dogs that tree coon then theres dogs that tree coon the right way.

I believe that alot of guys on here stereotype different breeds of hounds because they have not actually owned one!!

Elvis you are exactly right man!

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Originally posted by TreeTex
You being a competition hunter should know. Many of these strictly competition hunters are very serious about it all. There not like regular people. They don't laugh. They don't smile. They just move from one hunt to the next with a snarl on there face and a chip on there shoulder. They have no life except for competition hunting. That's it. You'd do better to say something about there mom or there wife than you would to say something about there dog. Some aren't like that but many are. I know I've met them. LOL

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Originally posted by TreeTex
You being a competition hunter should know. Many of these strictly competition hunters are very serious about it all. There not like regular people. They don't laugh. They don't smile. They just move from one hunt to the next with a snarl on there face and a chip on there shoulder. They have no life except for competition hunting. That's it. You'd do better to say something about there mom or there wife than you would to say something about there dog. Some aren't like that but many are. I know I've met them. LOL

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Originally posted by woodedwalker
Joey, this statment is a fraud!!! A fake!!! I have owned 3 good and i mean good walker dogs and if i walked to 20 trees i better see 19 coon. There is NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GOOD COMP DOG AND A PLEASURE DOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A dog should tree a coon the exact same way!!! I dont know how many hunts you have been to BUT i can tell you that leaves or no leaves walkers blow every other breed out of the water !!!!!! Keep using the same excuses people have been using for years theres way to many of them !!! were all out numbered 10 to 1 !!! There all slick treeing idiots !!! Want a pillow to cry on for every time a walker beats you???? why are there so many of them????? people want what WINS !!!!!!!!! and win they do!!!!!!!!!! Man you bluetic guys are unbelievable!!! We can show you stat after stat and you still refuse to agree!!!!!!!! "YOU HUNT BLUES YOU LOOSE!!!!!!!" Ive never in my life seen a bluedog win consistently!!!!!! NEVER

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This might be the year the Blue dog wins it, we just might be jinxing the walkers bragging on them so much!!

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Originally posted by bluetickcooner
i believe there IS a diference in pleasure dogs and comp dogs..pleasure means they hunt close and get the job done while having a good time comp hunting dogs is getting out there deep finding them under a tree

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Originally posted by elvis
yep Tex, dont you dare snicker at the redbone female im hunting or it will hurt my feelers. LOL

Seriously, the walker nation has earned the right to be a little cocky, winning 25 out of 32 ukc world hunts would make any breed poke their chest out a bit.

On the other hand, if a breed has won 0 out of 32, it probably has earned the right to have a little trash talk thrown in their direction.

You can get mad and cry foul, you can make all sorts of excuses why you havent won any, you can use it for motivation to try harder, or you can just laugh along with everyone and keep on having fun hunting what you like.

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if i ever switched to walker hounds i belive i would invest in a heli copter lol.

3 Dog Cast tonight in a !KC hunt. 2 Walkers and a BLuetick. Bluetick makes a circle tree, while the walkers treed a possum and left a tree. 9 minutes left to hunt the blue comes and lays down by owners feet for remainder of hunt panting heavy. Hunt over Blue wins, smartest dog I seen, LOL.

Re: I agree 100%.

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Originally posted by coon hunter
But you'll never get a walker man to admit that one!LOL These breed wars have been going on for as long as I can remember and they'll be going long after I am gone. The walker guys on here with their chest blowed out and giving all the lip service, are just riding the coat tails of the walker men that have actually gotten it done for the breed. It is the same old story, it is always "This TW or that TW?" They never say "My TW is the WCh." Because (with the exception of a couple ON HERE) their TW's aren't any better than the next guys off color.

I comp hunt walkers (not right now) because they have been bred for comp. I pleasure hunt with black, blue, tri-colored, red or anything that has the traits I find a pleasure to hunt. The main difference is I want my pleasure dog to check in if he hasn't struck and finish his tracks under a coon. I don't want my comp dog to come back PERIOD, I want him to find a tree and be on it (with a coon at least 70% of the time).

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Originally posted by Bradley E. Hall
3 Dog Cast tonight in a !KC hunt. 2 Walkers and a BLuetick. Bluetick makes a circle tree, while the walkers treed a possum and left a tree. 9 minutes left to hunt the blue comes and lays down by owners feet for remainder of hunt panting heavy. Hunt over Blue wins, smartest dog I seen, LOL.

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Originally posted by TreeTex
now please explain to me what made a walker man go RED ???????? LOL LOLLOL

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Originally posted by elvis
Thats easy, good coondogs are rare in any color. I know one when I see it and am not about to let a silly thing like color and foolish pride keep me from snapping my lead to it when the opertunity knocks.

in the past several years ive been a redbone man, a bluetic man, an english man and a walker man.

i think maybe i even had my lead on a dog whos pic you posted on another thread and said it was the best dog youv ever hunted with. I guess i was a bluetick man at that time lol.

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