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Posted by truebluefordman on 01-03-2009 09:53 PM:

see there ya go , left some other dogs out from diff reg, i do not know jerry molls but i have read and know people who have hunt with him in some form. he owns coon dogs that is a fact. i will not pay for the gas but here is what i will do for anyone who wants even them who i have had words with. a place for you and your dog's to sleep food showers all that and more places to hunt then some ever get too. we can cast the dogs any way you like just yours . one at a time or all in a cast . i hunt 5 -7 nights a week year round. drop me a line or e mail.

i know there are top dogs all over this great land but to me it seems like a vast many come from right here in indiana no matter where the dog was breed or come from i dont know but once in the hands of a true coon hunter who hunts a kc of some kind win a lot of hunt's but i have gone hunting with some not in a comp hunt and they still shine like top dogs. i think a lot of that has to due with so many guy's from indiana try hard to better there breed of dogs by hunting them when they need it and do it even when at times it is not all that much fun for them and my hat is off to anyone who pay's the price it takes to get a dog to top dog .

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Posted by Chris McCrary on 03-22-2011 10:09 PM:

New guy diggin up bones....

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Posted by on 03-23-2011 04:00 AM:

I like

Reading these old threads and seeing just how many of the people that responded are "BANNED" LOL


Posted by Jay Chadwick on 03-23-2011 04:24 AM:

I missed ole JV Im glad hes back

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Posted by youngwalkerman on 12-29-2011 11:27 PM:

here all i got too say it is not were the dog comes from or even who dog is out of its who gets them dogs as a pup and knows how too hunt that dog night in night out IN is a great state for training a dog but like here in southwest VA were i live the coons are not thick but u can take a dog out of my country that has been hunted seven nights a week here and if the show u eyes night in night out they can go in were and tree coons that what i never have got over the years i have hunted a few place and even this big hunts but the dogs are no better there than what you are hunting right in your own back yard bring them dogs out of them flat grounds and put them here it a level playing field put a world hunt on here or some place around here i promise that you will see what i am saying and it does not matter if a dog can tree coons in thin coons they can do it here ever else you take them what makes a coon dog is a dog that u can drop in were and it show you eyes not just on flat land this aint no pissing contest just saying IN or other states do not have in better dogs than in other state


Posted by kycooner1 on 12-29-2011 11:51 PM:

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Originally posted by smokey7
I mean the ones who eat coons and poop plus points.





Thats a Good one there !!

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Posted by 8hawg on 12-30-2011 06:44 AM:

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Originally posted by smokey7
More coons. I'll tell the truth. I wish i lived in Indiana. You want to train a puppy in Indiana? You just walk out your front door and train your puppy. You want a tune up a young dog and get em fired up? Knock out about 30 coons to them this week? hey, just walk out there and git r done. It makes sense to me. Down here in North Georgia, you turn a dog or pup loose in the woods and the first thing they have to do is make it past a herd of about 30 deer, then dodge the 15 possums and 12 armadillo's and 10 red fox, then, if they make it through the short pine thicket and actually get down to the dried up stream where there actually used to be water, they just might be one old boar coon feeding on that stream down there. Now your 1/2 mile from where you turned that pup loose. Training a puppy own here is not impossible but it's NOT EASY. So, like i said, I wish i lived up there in the land of many coons many nights.

Why are the coons so thin in North GA? It seems like you have all the other critters in abundance. Just wondering why there seems to be plenty of everything else but the coon according to your statement.

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Posted by Jason Baldwin on 12-30-2011 08:41 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by 8hawg
Why are the coons so thin in North GA? It seems like you have all the other critters in abundance. Just wondering why there seems to be plenty of everything else but the coon according to your statement.



heck if i know but, this old thread got me laughing. lol


Posted by old ben on 12-30-2011 02:12 PM:

my plans when i retire is to move up there ,,i love the terrain and the people seem friendly ..love them corn and bean feilds alot different than down here

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Posted by Mike Van Dusen on 12-31-2011 12:45 AM:

Re: ALIBI



Man now that is a TREEEEDOG!!!!
I never hunted with him, but I have been told he was some kind of LOUD!

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Posted by wvhoundsman on 12-31-2011 01:46 AM:

good and bad hounds everywhere. every dog has its day just because the dog wins the world doesnt mean he/she is the best just had the best night or two. excluding mr Clean he has shown he is more than a one night stand lol


Posted by Lowell Lynn on 12-31-2011 05:37 AM:

To answer your original question, The top dogs are in Indiana because our economy is better then some states and this allows us to go up to Michigan and buy some hard going track driving coon treeing coondawgs Yea,This is for Frank G. and Chad Winchel.

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Posted by youngwalkerman on 12-31-2011 06:52 AM:

this is funny i have hunted IN and i am from VA u take this dogs from here that has been hunted in moutains put them out there give them a drop or 2 they will be fine but saying IN has the best bogs that is false no one state has the best dogs what makes ur dog is who the dog goes too when he is a pup here were i live if u get 2 up a night u better go home and get u some sleep not saying that our coons are thin but a dog has to go a bit harder to fine one yeah IN is a great state to hunt and some place the coons are thick but they are good and bad ones in ever state but if u have a dog here that can tree coons u can go in were and tree them


Posted by englishheat298 on 12-31-2011 08:13 AM:

Lived in Morehead ky now northwest IN i treed just as many coon there as i did here only differance i see here is more corn and no hills haha. And i wouldn't say most of the top dogs are from here you go south or even out west i do believe your going to find your better dog. If you cant tree a coon here RETIRE! Sure wish they would put the world hunt where everyone is willing to drive and compete there are central states lol!

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Posted by patches9452 on 12-31-2011 08:44 AM:

indiana.... i will promise you that pen marv is addicted to can be the hardest place to tree a coon in the united states some nights and the walking can be ruff to if he aint chauffering


Posted by youngwalkerman on 12-31-2011 04:11 PM:

yeah i wish they would have the world in some were in NC or VA


Posted by Dwils on 12-31-2011 04:53 PM:

Everyone thinks Indiana and Michigan is easy pickens, especially the people that do not live here. Pack your bags , bring the hounds. I have places I know you won't tree coon in.we have abundance of coon yes....but right now after the thousands of coon that have been treed, spotlighted by Amish, hit on the road, trapped ,,coon aren't plentiful. Go up and hunt the flooded stateland Frank Giddings hunts in Michigan and tell me how easy it was then.

States with higher coon population give a dog a higher chance at reaching their full potential when finished and thats fact . More training oportunities, more action, more confidence building .
We have cold snowy winters in late kill season when dogs have to work for coon

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Posted by youngwalkerman on 12-31-2011 05:09 PM:

first off i aint saying it is easy all i am saying is here were i live the hunting is ruff and i hunt moutains and even some river bottoms dont get me wrong some nights u can get 3 or 4 singles a night but that dont happen alot i have been to IN the hunting is nice and i would even like to live out there but this dogs out here but also it like bring dogs out there were u live they got to put up with alot of thing but the biggest thing here would be the farms i hunt on have tight fence and if dogs have not been around them much they get hung up on them but at the same time of course u take a dog out of his own back yard it takes a bit of time to get them use too the new place but after a dog from here get use to it they can tree coons just as good as a dog from IN


Posted by Mike Van Dusen on 12-31-2011 08:04 PM:

Englishheat298, I see were you list a dog in R.I.P. named Indiana Jones, is this the same dog that Joe Howard and Barney Haggard had?If so, I hunted many nights with ol' Blue......

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Posted by englishheat298 on 01-01-2012 10:03 PM:

Sure is Mike...I was real young when dad had him and from what i remember he was the real deal in my book. Idk what he was when you saw him but sure had alot of fun with Blue!!

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Posted by Mike Van Dusen on 01-01-2012 10:45 PM:

I thought that might be the same dog, Blue was a coondog!
He was tight on the ground, but a stay put treedog, he would blow a little if a dog would let him, he wasn't mean, just a litttle pushy around the tree.
He was out of Woodstock Redman,who was out of Tapp breeding.
Blue was out of a good litter,he had a sister, we called her Woody, she was better than Blue in my opinion, G.T. Howard bought her from Barney.
There was another 1 out of that litter, Bobby Howard owned named Tyson, he made him a Grandnight, and won big at Autumn Oaks 2 years in a row with him.
I hunted alot with Barney back then, he loved that line of dogs,he is the man that brought them to his house, and sold all 3 of those dogs,and he had some of that blood at his house when he died.
Lots of memories.......

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Posted by englishheat298 on 01-02-2012 03:12 AM:

Ya i know ol tyson to bobby howards a good man...never could put jones and tyson together :/...That sure was a good line in my opinion. We tried to get some pups out of jones but he never would reproduce. One female he threw was an A1 hound dad kept tho i remember her we named her devastating dixie. You may know my pops terry glovier?

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Posted by RHK on 01-02-2012 03:33 AM:

anybody hear from hartrum anymore??


Posted by prostockpat on 01-02-2012 06:02 AM:

??

not just in indiana!!
but i think its "weird" that out of the final 4 cast weren't 3 of them from the NORTH ??with the worldch from michigan.

like dwils said bring your hounds up here.coons are here but can the southern hounds tree them on the frost,frozen or snow covered ground at a 80% average?

bet not,i've brought 3 up here and learned a lesson!!!
1- bluetick male from s. carolina{with ukc 1 and 2nd}
2-walker male from n. georgia w/2 ukc 1st place wins
3 bluetick female from wv/ky mountain area.
guess what there not here anymore.


Posted by Mike Van Dusen on 01-02-2012 03:26 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by englishheat298
Ya i know ol tyson to bobby howards a good man...never could put jones and tyson together :/...That sure was a good line in my opinion. We tried to get some pups out of jones but he never would reproduce. One female he threw was an A1 hound dad kept tho i remember her we named her devastating dixie. You may know my pops terry glovier?


As far as huntin Blue against Tyson, Blue would dominate him in every department, when I hunted with them.You see, I hunted with them from their beginings,dogs can change, and when Tyson was young, he couldn't take any tree pressure, from anydog, if he was treed,and another dog treed split from him, he had to go see!Blue was a presssure treedog from the beginning,Bobby Howard got Tyson and changed all that pulling Tyson did when he was young.
But the best dog from that bunch, in my opinion was their sister Woody,she was special and she was better than both of them, and she was never put in a hunt!!!!!!
Woody was a good reproducer too, she threw some good pups,and barney kept that blood around his house, his friends and son probably still hunt some of that blood today.....

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