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alot of the HIDE,PLESURE hunters ive hunted withs dog hang by yur feet till you walk em to a track dont barly tree you just gota shine the trees around where hes runnin around barking to find the coon,may not slick tree but dont hardly tree,should I assume thats what you hide plesure hunters are breeding for?yall are so quik to call our dogs slick treein box barkin bee lining hot nosed dogs and think thats what were breeding for

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Originally posted by max destruction
I plesure hunt 3-5 nites a week and go to nite hunts 1-3 nites a week when i can,Are my dogs plesure,hide dogs or comp dogs?

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Originally posted by chopper1954
You don't need to be very smart to know that a title doesn't make a dog a better dog. The dogs don't know anything about titles. All a title proves is that the dog has been measured against a set standard and has met that standard. It doesn't mean the dog is better than a non-titled dog, it just means the dog has been put out there in the public eye, it's performance is a matter of public record and the dog met the standard as opposed to a non-titled dog who performs in private with other dogs the owner can choose. The dogs owner can tell everyone how great the dog is, he hasn't bothered to prove the dog in public or against any standard. That is the difference.

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Originally posted by Richard Nethery
I dont have any Titled Hounds, but I would have to say, a title impresses me, When I see a Title on a Hound, I know right off that It can tree a Coon, or atleast it will tree a Coon with other hounds.
Nothing against a title.

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Originally posted by toe cutter
yea that about says it all. what its missing is the part about some dogs slipping through and getting titles that don't make the standard.
titles don't make them better dogs,but titles don't prove it is the real deal either. many ways dogs come out on top in nite hunts without it being the real winner.
the bigger picture i see in that statement is in the hunter not the dogs.
a comp hunter wants or needs to prove his dog to everyone else. a pleasure hunter just has to prove it to his self.

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to end it all.....

why not have the big hunts with the leaves off? i never could understand that? things would be different if they did.

IF THE DOG IS A COON DOG!!!! WEATHER NITE HUNTED OR NOT IT DESERVES RESPECT. TOO EACH HIS OWN. IF YOU LIKE SHOWING, WATER RACES, FIELD TRIALS THAT IS GREAT. IF YOU DO NOT THAT IS OK TO. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR HOUNDS IN WHAT EVER YOU DO.

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Originally posted by rmcmillan
IF THE DOG IS A COON DOG!!!! WEATHER NITE HUNTED OR NOT IT DESERVES RESPECT. TOO EACH HIS OWN. IF YOU LIKE SHOWING, WATER RACES, FIELD TRIALS THAT IS GREAT. IF YOU DO NOT THAT IS OK TO. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR HOUNDS IN WHAT EVER YOU DO.

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50% +/- accurate and a grnitech is not a coondog.

can not tree its own coon{alone}but a grnitech, is not a coondog.

trees "coon" with leaves on,but for some odd reason there not there when leaves are off but is still a grnitech...is not a coondog.

my dog is a coondog {comp or pleasure}.has made quit a few titled dogs that are the most blowed up on here look bad plenty of times.{whiteand blue}

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Originally posted by max destruction
alot of the HIDE,PLESURE hunters ive hunted withs dog hang by yur feet till you walk em to a track dont barly tree you just gota shine the trees around where hes runnin around barking to find the coon,may not slick tree but dont hardly tree,should I assume thats what you hide plesure hunters are breeding for?yall are so quik to call our dogs slick treein box barkin bee lining hot nosed dogs and think thats what were breeding for

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And ive seen many grand nites make plesure,hide dogs look stupid with leaves on and off!

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Originally posted by Okie Dawg
I have heard it said that there are a lot better dogs who don't do nite hunts as opposed to those who do. I am not sure if this is true or not."

That is probubly true that there are better dogs out there but untill they compete they will never know if they are better or not. All the title means is they were hunting better on the nights they won than the other dogs and if they have consistantly they are better dog than most in the comps.
The titlse are the only way the rest of the world can judge your dog becouse we can't go hunting with them all.
We can look in the back of COONHOUND and see what dog is produceing winners and that is were I would pic a stud dog for my gyp. Then if I could I would go hunt with it to see if it is the style of hunter I want and if it is strong were mine is week.

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WE USED TO DEFINE HIDE DOGS LIKE THIS; DOGS THAT ARE STILL MOUTH OR SEMI SILENT ON TRACK THAT TREES RACCOONS. SOMETIMES THE HIDE DOGS MADE ONE OR TWO TREE BARKS THEN SHUT UP, I'VE SEEN MANY OF THEM WEAR BELLS ON THEIR COLLARS AND WHEN THEY JACKED THE TREE YOU COULD HEAR THE BELL. MOST OF THE HIDE DOGS WERE ELKHOUNDS, TERRIERS, CURS, SHEPPARDS MIXED WITH SOMETHING. I NEVER SEEN A PURE BRED COONHOUND AS A HIDE DOG. THESE HIDE DOGS BACK IN THE DAY WHEN HIDES WERE WORTH CARRYING OUT THEY WOULD KILL OVER 500 COON IN A SEASON. I KNEW A GUY THAT HAD SOMETHING THAT WAS MIXED AND IT WORE A BELL AROUND HIS COLLAR AND WHEN HE WAS TREED HE WOULD MAKE ONE BARK AND THEN START JUMPING AT THE TREE AND THE OWNER WOULD FOLLOW THE BELL. A HIDEDOG DOESNT HUNT OUT OF HEARING, THEY HUNT CLOSE AND THEY DONT GET AWAY FROM YOU. THIS GUY THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WOULD HUNT THIS DOG IN THE METRO PARKS IN THE CLEVELAND,OHIO SUBURBS ALONG THE TURNPIKE, RT. 77 AND 71 AND KILL 800 OR 900 COON PER SEASON.