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Posted by GA DAWG on 03-26-2016 05:00 AM:

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Originally posted by Matt Marshall
The only thing we have seen over the last eight years is the Republican Party block anything Obama tried. Didn't matter if was good ,bad or in between. The Republican Party is just as guilty of holding America back as the Democratic Party.

Now thats a statement from a true liberal right there. I hear it routinely at work from my liberal thinking co worker lol.

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Posted by Well Started on 03-26-2016 02:32 PM:

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I am surprised for someone like you that knows all about polls and numbers you have not figured out why he hasn't broke 50%. It is called the silent majority. These are folks that usually don't vote for candidates in the primaries. You saw a little bit of this 4 yrs. ago but not at this level and most of it went for Newt. The political conservative vote was split between Santorum and Newt and most of the common sense conservative vote went to Newt. The problem was Newt couldn't energize the silent majority because he was still seen as a insider. he didn't talk about the issues facing everyday American workers, illegal immigration, securing Our borders, bringing our jobs back from over seas putting America back to work and making it Great. See we have 2 different conservative groups in America, we have the Political Conservatives and then we have the common sense conservatives these are the silent majority. The political Conservatives are Beck, Rush, CPAC, they have been preaching the conservative movement for one reason. They are trying to be the power in Washington they want to be the Elites with the Power. Would they be better then the Establishment now yes they probably would be for a short time then they would be just corrupt as what is in there now. These are the same Polical conservative hacks that are talking a 3rd party candidate if Trump is the nomination. Why?? Because when Trump gets elected president this Political Conservative Group will loose all the power in the republican party that they have been working on for the last 10 to 15yrs. Why?? because Trump brings common Sense Conservative ideas to the table. Common Sense Conservatives aren't a party they are the silent majority from every race, age, political party, hard working legal Americans and legal immigrants. This would ruin the Political Conservative Party as when Trump becomes President, this will ruin the Elite Democrat party, The Elite Republican party, the socialist party and also ruin the Political Conservative Group. The reason why is then Washington will work for Americans instead of Americans working for Washington. This is why every politician, from socialist, democrat, republican and conservative and even the Elite news Media are trying to stop Trump.

Make America Great Again

Berger, I'm not saying I have anything personally against you, I kinda enjoy debating you actually. But you are one difficult cat to make any sense of.

You remember this statement and point you made arguing why Trump can beat Hillary compared to when Romney ran? And acted like those numbers were pro Trump?

Quote. "What your reality forgot to notice is that the participation in the republican primaries and caucuses is up anywhere from 33% in Iowa to over 100% higher in Nevada."

But now you're saying the reason Trump hasn't broken 50% is because people are staying home in some kind of "silent majority" theory??

Which is it?? Pick a point and stick with it man. Lol.

Posted by Matt Marshall on 03-26-2016 02:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by GA DAWG
Now thats a statement from a true liberal right there. I hear it routine
ly at work from my liberal thinking co worker lol.

Sorry, I'm anything but liberal. Just open minded enough to not be blinded like some on here are.
Also, you must have a little liberal in you if your for Trump because he is NOT a true conservative which is why he is so popular. The country is sick and tired of true hard right and true hard left politicians.

Posted by Triple K Kennel on 03-26-2016 02:53 PM:

True......

quote:
Originally posted by Matt Marshall
Sorry, I'm anything but liberal. Just open minded enough to not be blinded like some on here are.
Also, you must have a little liberal in you if your for Trump because he is NOT a true conservative which is why he is so popular. The country is sick and tired of true hard right and true hard left politicians.

This is Exactly how I feel, sick of the Career Politicians.....that's why Trump will get my vote....!!!
I think I see a Trump / Carson ticket coming......No Career Politicians with that ticket.......This is what we need to make America Great Again.....!!!

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Posted by ringtail on 03-27-2016 03:07 AM:

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Originally posted by Matt Marshall
The only thing we have seen over the last eight years is the Republican Party block anything Obama tried. Didn't matter if was good ,bad or in between. The Republican Party is just as guilty of holding America back as the Democratic Party.

Are you kidding???? I am no fan of the gop leaders, but if you don't mind tell us what they have blocked?

They haven't blocked anything. They put up a small fight, then give in. When they didn't give in, he signed executive order.

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Posted by Stan Ferrell on 03-27-2016 03:16 AM:

I am here to tell you that if a liberal like TKK will endorse Trump the rest of you aughta stop lookin for reasons not to.

Posted by Redneck Mafia on 03-27-2016 03:23 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Matt Marshall
Sorry, I'm anything but liberal. Just open minded enough to not be blinded like some on here are.
Also, you must have a little liberal in you if your for Trump because he is NOT a true conservative which is why he is so popular. The country is sick and tired of true hard right and true hard left politicians.

No the country is sick of career politicians with a democracy be ****ed attitude and whatever it takes to remain in power and the people are tired of being pawns in their game .

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Posted by ringtail on 03-27-2016 03:34 AM:

TKK ?

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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 03-27-2016 03:36 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ringtail
TKK ?

Triple k kennel

Posted by Matt Marshall on 03-27-2016 04:13 AM:

And again, most of you are wrong. Please continue your way of thinking. Definitely blocked any and everything they could. Good or bad.

Posted by Stan Ferrell on 03-27-2016 01:20 PM:

So Matt, you happy with the way things are going? Are you happy with the GOP leadership? Should we give the GOP leadership one more chance? I am not gullible enough to think Trump is a choir boy, He does talk in a rough NewYorkish way, But I am willing to take a chance on him to get this party back to the people, I KNOW what will happen with the party regulars, and frankly, I am sick of it.

Posted by Matt Marshall on 03-27-2016 02:44 PM:

Ed, I believe I have already stated that the country is sick and tired of these guys. By that I meant myself as well . One thing I have never understood is how is it legal for politicians to take bribery money from special interest groups?
Also, the republicans and democrats better pay attention to Bernie. He scares me more than any.

Posted by ScottCK 6 on 03-27-2016 04:15 PM:

Just curious as to why some of you gentleman keep editing out your insults to these posts, If your going to call names then OWN IT!!

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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 03-27-2016 04:42 PM:

I edited my post because spell check put the wrong word in not because calling someone names .

Posted by Matt Marshall on 03-27-2016 04:45 PM:

I edit my post when I feel I have gone a little overboard or any other time I feel the need. After all it is MY post.

Posted by ringtail on 03-27-2016 04:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Matt Marshall
And again, most of you are wrong. Please continue your way of thinking. Definitely blocked any and everything they could. Good or bad.

What did they block? Can you give any examples?

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Posted by ScottCK 6 on 03-27-2016 05:05 PM:

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Originally posted by Redneck Mafia
I edited my post because spell check put the wrong word in not because calling someone names .

It's not you, there are three people on here that call names and insult people's intelligence or faith, then edit them out. I'm not just referring to this post.

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Posted by Matt Marshall on 03-27-2016 05:17 PM:

Well for one thing they shut the government down when he wouldn't take the Obama care off the table. Also, against any infrastructure plans that Obama wanted. But I'm sure someone will come on here and try to rebuke all of this to make themselves feel good.
Go back and look to the year 2010. You will find that most republican leaders were talking of blocking everything Obama was for including talks of a government shutdown if they didn't get their way.
And no I'm not an Obama guy or a GOP fan either. I think it's sad for America that we have people on both sides like this as our leaders.

Look.... I'm not going to write a book. Look it up yourself and if you don't agree that's fine with me. Your not going to change my mind nor will I yours.
Have a good Easter I'm going to be with family.

Posted by Stan Ferrell on 03-27-2016 06:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Matt Marshall
Well for one thing they shut the government down when he wouldn't take the Obama care off the table. Also, against any infrastructure plans that Obama wanted. But I'm sure someone will come on here and try to rebuke all of this to make themselves feel good.
Go back and look to the year 2010. You will find that most republican leaders were talking of blocking everything Obama was for including talks of a government shutdown if they didn't get their way.
And no I'm not an Obama guy or a GOP fan either. I think it's sad for America that we have people on both sides like this as our leaders.

Look.... I'm not going to write a book. Look it up yourself and if you don't agree that's fine with me. Your not going to change my mind nor will I yours.
Have a good Easter I'm going to be with family.

Matt, how it works is that congress writes the bills, debates and passes them, then they get sent to the president for signature. The congress has only blocked themselves. If the GOP really wanted to do something they could have wrote and passed a bill repealing the NFA and sent it to Obama to veto, They could have wrote a bill balancing the budget and sent it to Obama to veto, they could have wrote a bill stopping abortions and sent it to Obama to veto. They could have done something with their majority in congress but they didn't.

Posted by ringtail on 03-27-2016 07:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Matt Marshall
Well for one thing they shut the government down when he wouldn't take the Obama care off the table.......

Go back and look to the year 2010. You will find that most republican leaders were talking of blocking everything Obama.....

Look.... I'm not going to write a book. Look it up yourself and if you don't agree that's fine with me. Your not going to change my mind nor will I yours......

They shut down the government? They closed public parks, WOW. No essential department/service was effected.

I guarantee, if GW was in ofc and we had a dumocrap Congress, you would have said GW shut down the gov not Congress.

Go back to 2010, they may have talked about it, but that is all they did, TALK.......

You can't write a book, just tell us something specific they blocked!!!!! Not talked about blocking, but blocked..

The GOP is as much to blame for the shape this country is in as Obama, but it is not because they blocked everything, it is because they didn't block anything!!!!!!!

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Posted by Matt Marshall on 03-27-2016 08:44 PM:

Actually if you want to take time to look it up there are many bills the pubs blocked.
Also, if you take time you will find that all they talked about from day one is blocking any and everything Obama wanted. Not talk all actions.
They blocked funding for fixing the infrastructure. There is your one thing. You will have to look the rest up because there are many. Too many for me to waste time typing.
Are you saying the government didn't shut down for a few days? WOW

Posted by nitehunter2004 on 03-27-2016 11:13 PM:

Harry reed blocked more bills that any other majority leader, reed and obama shut down the government an lieing Ted was the reason but he denied it.

Posted by ringtail on 03-27-2016 11:31 PM:

You have not named anything they have blocked. You are repeating left wing liberal talking points not facts. I can point out plenty of facts that show the GOP leaders have been failures and don't need talking points.

quote:
Originally posted by Matt Marshall
Are you saying the government didn't shut down for a few days? WOW

WOW! That's right, the government did not shut down. ONLY some non-essential agencies were slightly affected. Name one essential agency/department/office that was shut down. You can't!!!!

By the way, day use areas at the national parks are non-essential....

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Posted by Matt Marshall on 03-28-2016 02:49 AM:

Lol. Ok if you're not willing to look it up yourself I'm definitely not wasting my time.
Also, you may be the only person in America that says the government didn't shut down for a while.
I'm not arguing over facts that are available to look up. Done with this nonsense.
At least we agree that we don't need Hillary or Bernie. I hope?

Posted by ringtail on 03-28-2016 03:09 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Matt Marshall

At least we agree that we don't need Hillary or Bernie. I hope?

We can definitely agree on that...

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