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Re: Bird dog X coonhound cross???

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Originally posted by Sy Sparks
Anyone here ever cross a hound on a germin short hair? Any pups out there for sale or anyone have a male dog that is bird dog X coon hound? Let me know what you guys think about a cross like this....

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working with a guy now that has a 4 year old female GSP for sale. Has a great nose and out of a line of dogs that just hate coons. They have been known to catch em on the ground and kill them. Just a hate for anything with fur other than another dog. If the plans go through, she will be bred to a walker hound that is a track drifter him self. Here are some big names in his ped and there all close. Clover, Patch, Hardwood Henry, Rat Attack, Lipper, Lipper, Lipper, Lipper.

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Cross should be made by spring if not sooner, if anyone is interested let me know. Had a guy PM me but tried to PM him back and his mail box was full. This bird dog comes from a long line of dogs that hate fur. Coons in particular!!!

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Birddog X FL Cur make a jammed up hog dog they are trashy as pups and love to hit a possum or coon. Fast good hunting dogs that beat the bush.

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Cross should be made by spring if not sooner, if anyone is interested let me know. Had a guy PM me but tried to PM him back and his mail box was full. This bird dog comes from a long line of dogs that hate fur. Coons in particular!!!

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Originally posted by Jonathan Crump
I talked with a guy the other day on this very subject. For the right price I can breed a jam up Bluetick to his GSH female. He said he doesn't want to have to get rid of the pups though. I told him I was pretty sure I can get rid of the pups. The Bluetick is Spring Hill breed with a triple shot of Raisin Cain and Jenny. He ain't mine but he comes outa the truck slingin dirt and in his first comp hunt was treed 10 minutes before the other dogs could get to him. He went across the big swamp and the other dogs went around it.

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I backed out, changed my mind on the GSP.

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Originally posted by Sy Sparks
I backed out, changed my mind on the GSP.

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My wife's car just broke down and the money I had for this just went to her car. I also had a redbone I just sold and I have an apt to pull semen from him and I would also have to drive 8hrs one way to get the female. If some one else wants to buy her, I have all the info for the guy who has her. She's 4 and never been messed with for $250. She's just been someone's pet all her life. She has killed a few coons in the water and comes from a line of GSPs that just hate fur.

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Going to SC to pick up my pups the weekend of the 21st. I'm sure there might be some left if anyone wants one. I also have a male pup booked from NY!!

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We have used English Pointer crosses for hogs here in Florida. Before I knew any better I crossed them on catahoulas also. Made great dogs as well for hog. The hound crosses do well on bear also.

But a long time ago I realized that if you need a cross then you have the wrong dog to start with.

I have seen some walker X GSP make some super nice coon dogs. In fact I know of a guy right now that started out with this cross and still breeds for it today and always has a super nice dog on his lead. I'm not saying they are world beaters, but they will give most a run for their money.

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I heard that a guy registered one as an English a while ago and was a pretty big Pkc winner and throwing pups. And I know of two that are world reserve world champs in the squirrel hunts.

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Bird dog crosses are just like Bigfoot, everyone knows somebody who's seen one and where there are some, just no pictures or proof.

My grandpa crossed a mare and a jackass. He coulda won the Kentucky Derby if they would let mules enter.

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Originally posted by Ed zachary
Bird dog crosses are just like Bigfoot, everyone knows somebody who's seen one and where there are some, just no pictures or proof.

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Seems like some of you havent done you research. I am a little rusty on it but near as I can remember all hounds, bluticks, english, redbone, black and tan, walker, all hounds except my beloved plott dogs come from the same dogs originally. So theoretically you could get anything if the right genes click.

Don't get me wrong, you can. I totally agree with you but, how many would you have to go through? Or how much money would you spend trying to buy it? This deal in particular I feel like it's worth a shot. These pups are super cheap and worth trying. I haven't been hunting with dogs long but I have seen some good walkers and a lot of bad ones. I at one point had to TRY a change. I was up in the air about what hound to get. Bought a couple red bones and kinda liked them but then got my hands on a Mountian Cur. I really really like them because of the brains and they are so versatile. That's why I'm hoping that the Gsp can through some of that in there. I like a bigger type dog that can hunt with its head up and wind and track the body sent than one that has its noes glued to the ground. One that can move through the woods better than a deer and have the grease if you know what I mean. I'm not looking for a comp dog but if it was what it takes than I sure would take em!

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Originally posted by Sy Sparks
I can't seem to post videos for some reason but send me your number and I'll show you a Walker X Gsp that's tree dog. But then again I'm not trying to prove anything to anyone. If you just read through the fourm, the real people that have walked behind them are the only ones saying anything good about them. Lost of people use them on big game, and I'm sure there are more out there than you think. They just throw a fake set of papers on them.

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SHORTHAIR X BLUETICK

I HAVE A LITTER RIGHT NOW THAT WAS BORN THE 19TH OF JANUARY. BOTH PARENTS FROM GOOD HUNTING STOCK. PUPS ARE ALL BLUE IN COLOR. THEY ARE LOCATED IN N.W. ILLINOIS.

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Ed ...that was funny......

Im like you...I have heard of half birdog/ half hound crosses from way way back but never seen one in person. I never thought of it like that till you posted about big foot. that made me laugh at loud here by myself. haha

From what I heard from a couple of my older coonhunting buddies, some of our more famous walker coondogs had some bird dog in them. I wont name names cause I wasnt there, but they swear that its true.

Id like to have one myself to turn loose on the place here. they would have to be smart.

I saw a three month old pointer bird dog pup point a robin on a fence post once. that was the darndest thing I ever saw.

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Black Panther-Issue solved

I was watching a TV show the other day and this fellow was holding what looked to me like a black panther 3 to 4 month old cub. I can now see where all the confusion comes from.

As I watched this show a little longer, it was explained that this cat I was looking at was actually a black leopard, I think from maybe South America.

But I could certainly see how they could have been mistaken for a mountain lion. I can now see that they could have been brought to North America as a pet and either released or escaped (by/from) its original owner and then start breeding with cats in the area.

To the untrained eye (Like mine) this cat looked like a panther cub, but black in color. I have no idea if they could mate with a mountain lion and reproduce, but this cat sure looked like a black mountain lion cub to me.

So now I must have solved the mystery, LOL!!

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I can here it now...I have a jam up coon dog that will flush up a coon tree him fast then sit under the tree until you get there and then point him out to you...lol I'm in !!!!

South America is home to a lot of Jaguars and is rare but some are black. They also live in Mexico, my neighbor has a ranch there and says they have killed 2 in 20 years that were killing his calf's. These jaguar do come North and cross the border into America and some are black, their spots are more hidden on the black jaguars but in the right light, you'll see them. And, if "V" has a litter on the ground, I'd bet the GSP, hound cross works also, he usually knows what he is doing.