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Posted by Frankenstein on 01-27-2013 08:20 PM:

Your welcome anytime. I don't competition hunt during the week, I train. I enjoy good dog work regardless who's it is. The Boy that owns half of my female now has some outstanding hunting and a whole lot less traffic.


Posted by Frankenstein on 01-27-2013 08:27 PM:

Boxmanwillie, If your name is Kevin Cable then we have a mutual friend . I don't recall you winning a world hunt.


Posted by slobbermouth21 on 01-27-2013 08:34 PM:

ill be imprinting a litter in a couple months by the way it looks but hopefully ill only have to start one or two from this litter. haha

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Posted by walkerdog1 on 01-27-2013 08:56 PM:

Re: Re: Re: MILLWOOD

quote:
Originally posted by slobbermouth21
ive said that along time ago and dern did it hurt some guys feelens they said that never happens in the hunts! haha
it should never happen if guys were honest with their self they would tell you yea that's slick or a moth a few years ago i hunted with a guy at the time i had a young gyp that i was working alone so we would turn loose one at a time he had this problum so bad a few times he would go to his dog alone one time his dog was about fifty yards off the road i went to turn around and relized i couuld see the tree slick he shoots twice comes back to the truck and says he had a coon the other time i could not see the tree but the shots had no plunk had a coon that was enough for me I'm not saying my dog was 100% i will say you'll get the 100% truth right or wrong lieing for a dog dont change it a bit it is what it is

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Posted by boxmanwillie on 01-27-2013 09:14 PM:

FRANKENSTIEN

WRONG NAME NEVER SAID I WON A WORLD HUNT I HAVE PLACED IN TWO I DO KNOW KEVIN CABLE


Posted by slobbermouth21 on 01-27-2013 09:18 PM:

ive had the same thing happen to me and i knew the tree was slick just by the way the dog sounded ive hunted with it enough but the guy swore the coon was up there and kept shinen his light to this spot and sayen look there he is but i wasnt fallen for it and this dog was a grandnight he wasnt even a dern walker dog eather just goes to show you titles dont mean **** when it comes to a dog being a COONDOG now are they titled dogs out there that are coondogs yes and i also wish you didnt have to qualifie for the world you should be able to just pay a entry fee and hunt i belive they would be more real coondogs brought out of the wood works that would only get hunted because it being a world hunt and you would weed out the low scoren **** eaters.

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Posted by nccoonhunter197 on 01-27-2013 09:51 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by walkerdog1
I've hunted with a lot of dogs that tree on their but most dogs like that don't move but i don't realy like one to be that far off a tree


To each his own......I was just making the point that brains (in dog or handler) is getting rare. As long as it stays out of trouble I am fine with that. When I was younger I have seen six dogs on one small tree. All gave space and had no problems. They were trained to respect another dog. They had no problem sharing a tree and did not have to bark 120 per minute to let us know where they were. Breeding super hard no brained tree dogs has hurt the breeds as much as the all grand pedigree in my opinion. Just like with humans the common sense and problem solving has been bred out to a dog that will just sit down and tree when the track gets to tough. That is where they come up short.

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Posted by slobbermouth21 on 01-27-2013 10:10 PM:

i agree on helping not hurting the breed. the number one exuse i here for a dog slick treeing is aahhh he is just out of shape...no he aint he just dont have a nose on him to work a cold track and brains might be lacking to but i bet he has a set of pretty papers on him. and ive seen coondogs with nice papers on them but its rare ive seen alot of all grand pups that people (pissed away) pay 300 to 500 a pup for thrown over the deer dog fence and left for deer dogs and they wasnt even good at that.

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Posted by walkerdog1 on 01-27-2013 10:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by nccoonhunter197
To each his own......I was just making the point that brains (in dog or handler) is getting rare. As long as it stays out of trouble I am fine with that. When I was younger I have seen six dogs on one small tree. All gave space and had no problems. They were trained to respect another dog. They had no problem sharing a tree and did not have to bark 120 per minute to let us know where they were. Breeding super hard no brained tree dogs has hurt the breeds as much as the all grand pedigree in my opinion. Just like with humans the common sense and problem solving has been bred out to a dog that will just sit down and tree when the track gets to tough. That is where they come up short.
i agree id much rather a dog sit back than fight if the onley way it can tree because of a gator ill take it if the ill dog is still after him id rather he leave and get another but i perfer one be on the tree when alone or in good company

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Posted by boxmanwillie on 01-27-2013 10:35 PM:

FRANENSTIEN

LETS HOOK UP AND HUNT DO YA HUNT INDIANA OR OHIO I HUNT MOSYLY INDIANA WHAT ABOUT YA


Posted by shawnfitzgerald on 01-27-2013 11:34 PM:

Re: FRANKENSTIEN

quote:
Originally posted by boxmanwillie
WRONG NAME NEVER SAID I WON A WORLD HUNT I HAVE PLACED IN TWO I DO KNOW KEVIN CABLE
you did say in a previous post you won the world. What is your name what dog were you hunting


Posted by shawnfitzgerald on 01-27-2013 11:38 PM:

We had a little black and white male out of Elvis named top dog flat out coondog but meaner than a rattlesnake but have hunted with a few that we're good dogs and not mean who knows


Posted by Frankenstein on 01-28-2013 12:18 AM:

Every bloodline in every breed is liable to throw a few rough ones. I don't see the need or gain to come on here and single out one paticular stud. I know of Studs in the past that consistantly threw rough dogs and people flocked to that stud just because he won the world hunt. I'm sure if Elvis had won the world hunt ,this post would never have been started. I could sit here and write the same thing about every stud out there but that's not going to stop people from breeding to them if that's the dog they feel is best for them. I feel we have beat this dead horse enough. I could sit here and list many top females that are rough themselves ,but what's the use? Everyone is going to form thier own opinion and act accordingly. Everyone has thier own definintion of "mean" so what do these kind of threads accomplish, absolutely nothing, so why even start them. I wish everyone good luck with the up and coming year and hope you and your hounds always make it back home safe.


Posted by boxmanwillie on 01-28-2013 01:57 AM:

SHAWN

I PLACED IN THE WORLD HUNT 2 TIMES I DID NOT WIN THE WORLD 1986 UCHA 4 PLACE BLACK WATER ROCK BEFORE YA TIME 203 AKC WORLD HUNT 16 PLACE TODDS OHIO JAKE FOR GOT ONE AKC 201 HIGH SCORING RED BONE TODDS LITTLE RED ALL DOGS WAS GRAND NITES NOTHING MUCH HOW ABOUT YOU SORRY IF IMISS LEAD YA


Posted by boxmanwillie on 01-28-2013 03:15 AM:

SHAWN

WERE IS LONG BOTTOOM OHIO LOCATED NEVER HEARD OF IT IS IT NORTHERN OHIO OR SOUTH EAST JUST CURIOUS BY THE WAY UCHA STAND FOR UNITED COON HUNTERS ASSOCIATION IT FOLDED UP IN 1990 THEY TRIED TO COMPETE WITH PKC THEY COULD NOT DO IT


Posted by walkerdog1 on 01-28-2013 03:24 AM:

Re: SHAWN

Vy

quote:
Originally posted by boxmanwillie
WERE IS LONG BOTTOOM OHIO LOCATED NEVER HEARD OF IT IS IT NORTHERN OHIO OR SOUTH EAST JUST CURIOUS BY THE WAY UCHA STAND FOR UNITED COON HUNTERS ASSOCIATION IT FOLDED UP IN 1990 THEY TRIED TO COMPETE WITH PKC THEY COULD NOT DO IT
near pomeroy about 45 min n e of ravenswood wv if that helps any

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Posted by boxmanwillie on 01-28-2013 03:29 AM:

WALKER DOG 1

THANKS I KNOW WERE POMEROY IS I HAVE HUNTED IN THAT AREA ATHENS OHIO WAYNE NATIONAL FOREST THANKS


Posted by slobbermouth21 on 01-28-2013 03:31 AM:

i dont remember the ucha but i remember seeing a old stud add that had a dog that showed him winning in one

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Posted by walkerdog1 on 01-28-2013 03:33 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by slobbermouth21
i dont remember the ucha but i remember seeing a old stud add that had a dog that showed him winning in one
do you rember nkc

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Posted by slobbermouth21 on 01-28-2013 03:38 AM:

nope i just remember ukc and pkc hunts i remember when rat attack was the S%#& in most comp hunters eyes remember alittle of nailor but he died in 95 or 96 i think of a heat stroke i remember being at the world or one of them hunts when sackett jr got ran over or it was a nice up and comeing stud dog it was in 01 or 02 i think but its not writen in stone but acha nkc ucha those i dont remember ever going to.

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Posted by Bobby Reynolds on 01-28-2013 07:07 AM:

I remember UCHA, started by Ray Wilhite from Indiana if I remember right. I hunted in one at Tenneeson, In. and Mayfeild Ky if memory serves me right. I was hunting a direct son of Boyds Little Joe. If I remember right the entry fee was $75 and you won $1500 for first place.


Posted by walkerdog1 on 01-28-2013 01:40 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Bobby Reynolds
I remember UCHA, started by Ray Wilhite from Indiana if I remember right. I hunted in one at Tenneeson, In. and Mayfeild Ky if memory serves me right. I was hunting a direct son of Boyds Little Joe. If I remember right the entry fee was $75 and you won $1500 for first place.
i don't rember ucha or acha our home club held some nkc hunts is the reason i rember them i never competed in one 1500 that's a good first place

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