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Posted by terry willford on 09-05-2006 07:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by wkfii
I think that the competition hunts are good because they get and keep people involved in hounding and help support the sport in general. Plus, with the downfall of the fur market there has been some money (its really not enough) injected.

However, competition hunts are not determinative of hunting ability. Without, going into the pros and cons further, I state that if I have to haul myself up a steep hillside, there had better be some meat in the tree. Circle points just don't get it at that point.

I agree that competition hunts helped us achieve some of the good qualities that we have but the rules didnt keep up with the hounds abitilities.Now we have reached a plateau and unless something happens I dont see hunts as being the measuring stick that we need.

Posted by wkfii on 09-05-2006 09:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by terry willford
I agree that competition hunts helped us achieve some of the good qualities that we have but the rules didnt keep up with the hounds abitilities.Now we have reached a plateau and unless something happens I dont see hunts as being the measuring stick that we need.

The oldest and best measuring stick that I know of is meat in the tree. That measure of course is open to interpretation. I saw a magazine in the doctor's office (I cannot remember which one it was) with an article on coons. Specifically, they did a study about how coon can insert themselves into really tight and small spaces. You cannot imagine an animal of that size fitting into spaces that small. It had pictures to prove the point. The point is that probably we get more den trees or hole trees than any of us really trully understand. The big Beech tree with the coon scat stacked at the base is easy. The tree with a very small hole in it may hold a coon as well. I guess the answer is confirmed meat in the tree. Den or hole trees should not be counted.

The bigger real answer is to reinvigorate the fur trade wherein people can get good money for furs.

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Posted by Robert Starke on 09-12-2006 10:43 AM:

Terry Willford

Amen

Posted by Robert Starke on 09-15-2006 11:56 AM:

Terry Willford

Finley River Tom--- Sire: Nite Leader (Lonnie x Neosho River Renegade) Dam: Finley River Kelley (Lonnie x Finley River Brandy) Brandy (Nite Hawk x Lonnie female)

Spanky--- Granddaughter of Wild Casey on the top. Great granddaughter of Wild Casey on the bottom.

Katie---- Daughter of Wild Card

Jane--- Daughter of Finley River Pete. Granddaughter of Nite Hawk. Granddaughter of Lonnie.

Molly and Pepper---- Daughters of Trackman. Greatgranddaughters of Finley River Dan top and bottom.

Style---- Son of Trackman x Peppermint Patty. Greatgrandson of Finley River Dan top and bottom.

Posted by jeffrey robinso on 09-15-2006 03:27 PM:

Mr. Starke, I have a full littermate to your Tom dog that I bought from Don Lesher a few months ago. I was wondering how Tom was progressing. I like my female pretty good so far, she does well on a hot track but is taking a while to get adjusted to all the water we have in the swamps of NC. She is a beautiful dog, she has been in two shows and has two best of shows with competition. I think with time and some hard hunting she will be fine. Thanks in advance and have a good day.

Posted by Robert Starke on 09-21-2006 09:03 AM:

Jeff Robinson

Tom is a fast trackdog that runs a track to catch. Bawl on track and hard chop on tree. Loud mouth and gives according to track. Trees on the tree, but will back up if aggressive dogs want the tree. Hunts deep to strike if needed, but does have reverse. He was a natural to start. He ran and treed on the first coon I turned him loose on that crossed the road. I have points on the bench. He has good feet, but his toenails were llong and I have been trimming them as often as I can. He'll finish when I get him right. Looking forward to coon season to finish him. What are you going to breed your female to? I would be interested in a pup from the right cross. Good Hunting

Posted by jeffrey robinso on 09-21-2006 12:18 PM:

Robert, I could not ask for a better looking female than Peebles. She finished to show champion in three shows with three best of shows with competition. I plan on breeeding her to my Grand Nite champion, he goes back to Finley River Dan 5 times on the top side and goes back to Tar Heel Henry and Mercahnt's Tree Blaster on the bottom. I plan on breeding her the next time she comes in heat, if you would like a pup just let me know. Take care and God bless.

Posted by THOMAS WILBERS on 10-12-2006 07:14 PM:

BTT

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Posted by Gene Cooper on 10-12-2006 08:30 PM:

Robert Starke
I'v hunted with Rickie and Lead for the last 10 yrs. Old Lead was a *Coon Dog*. He"d tree more cold coon on the outside than any dog I'v seen in the last 10 yrs. One of the best track dogs I'v ever hunted in my 50 yrs of coon hunting. Would like to hear more of your pups out of old Lead. Told Rick to keep one of them.

Gene Cooper
Bush Bottom Plotts

Posted by Upallnite on 10-13-2006 12:35 AM:

FINLEY RIVER DOGS

I KNOW A GUY THAT HAS A COUPLE LITTER OF PUPS A YEAR WITH STRONG FINLEY RIVER BLOOD IN IT YOU COULD CALL HIM HE WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL YOU QUITE A BIT ABOUT FINLEY RIVER DOGS.

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Posted by Upallnite on 10-13-2006 12:37 AM:

FINLEY RIVER

HIS NAME IS JOEL CORNELIUS. HE HAS GOOD LUCK WITH HIS YOUNG DOGS. 563 -357- 7787

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Posted by Robert Starke on 10-13-2006 04:32 AM:

Gene Cooper Nite Leader

Mr. Cooper,
I never had the opportunity to hunt with Lead. Tell me more. I"ll keep you informed about pups from Tom, but I want to finish him before I breed him . Good Hunting, Robert

Posted by Robert Starke on 10-13-2006 04:38 AM:

Jeffrey Robinson

Hi, Please print your dog's 3 generation pedigree. Tom Wilbers and I might be interested in some pups. Tar Heel Henry was Finley River bred. Good Hunting, Robert

Posted by jeffrey robinso on 10-13-2006 06:29 PM:

Robert, here is Sam's 3 generation pedigree:

Wld Nt ch Gr. Nt ch Nelson's Radar
Gr. Nt ch Booger Branch Big Boy Smoke
Nt. Ch. Richardson's Pat
Dual Grand Brittian's Dixieland Rip (Sire)
Dual Grand Finley River Nite Hawk
Gr.Ch. County Line Elizabeth
Gr. Ch. County Line Jill

Gr. Nite. Ch. Black River Psycho Sam

Gr. Nite Ch. Booger Branch Paul
Gr. Nite Ch. Tar Heel Henry
Richardson's Kate
Ch. Brittian's Miss Mindy (Dam)
Nt. Ch. Merchant's Tree Blaster
Nt. Ch. Country Boy's Yadkin River Belle
Southard's Judy

If you have any questions or need references on Sam or his pups, just let me know. Thanks for your interest in Sam.

Posted by wkfii on 10-13-2006 09:17 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by jeffrey robinso
Robert, here is Sam's 3 generation pedigree:

Wld Nt ch Gr. Nt ch Nelson's Radar
Gr. Nt ch Booger Branch Big Boy Smoke
Nt. Ch. Richardson's Pat
Dual Grand Brittian's Dixieland Rip (Sire)
Dual Grand Finley River Nite Hawk
Gr.Ch. County Line Elizabeth
Gr. Ch. County Line Jill

Gr. Nite. Ch. Black River Psycho Sam

Gr. Nite Ch. Booger Branch Paul
Gr. Nite Ch. Tar Heel Henry
Richardson's Kate
Ch. Brittian's Miss Mindy (Dam)
Nt. Ch. Merchant's Tree Blaster
Nt. Ch. Country Boy's Yadkin River Belle
Southard's Judy

If you have any questions or need references on Sam or his pups, just let me know. Thanks for your interest in Sam.

How about some pictures?

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Posted by jeffrey robinso on 10-13-2006 10:52 PM:

I am not smart enough to post pictures on here. There are pictures of Sam on two different websites. Travis Brittian who goes by Bullet on here has a picture of him on his website. I don't remember the website address, but if you do a search of the posts made by Bullet, go to the bottom and click on www and it will carry you to his website, scroll down to the bottom and click on page 2 and you will see a picture of Sam. Also my friend Chris Brown has a picture of Sam on his website www. shonuffkennels.com. Go to the coonhound males page and there is a link that will carry you to a page that has a picture of Sam and his 3 generation pedigree there. If you have any trouble finding these pictures, let me know I will get somebody to post some on here for me. Thanks for your interest in Sam and I hope you have a very blessed day.

Posted by bcj1973 on 10-14-2006 12:33 AM:

BLACK RIVER PSYCHO SAM

Here is a picture of Sam. Sam is a coon dog and above all, Jeff is a great person to deal with and a true friend.

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Posted by Keith Pruski on 10-14-2006 02:30 AM:

Was that pic taken up by Okuma? Or south near Naha? I didn't know there were coons on "the Rock"!

How ya been Lt?

Posted by bcj1973 on 10-14-2006 03:22 AM:

Keith that one was taken up North (LOL). I am just fantasizing, since I can't get any hunting in over here. I may start a Fantasy Coonhunting Leauge. How is everything going in your part of the country? Well take it easy.

Posted by bcj1973 on 10-14-2006 09:09 AM:

BTT

Posted by jeffrey robinso on 10-14-2006 02:04 PM:

Chris, thanks for posting this picture for me. I have never got the hang of putting pictures on the internet. I hope everything is well with you and your family. I hope to talk to you soon.

Posted by Bullet on 10-18-2006 11:32 PM:

For those who are interested..

Here is another picture of Sam

...And here is one of a puppy out of him that Jeffrey recently sold

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Posted by Robert Starke on 10-26-2006 11:55 AM:

Jeffrey Robinson

Hi, Let me know when those pups are born. Thanks.
Maranatha,
Robert

Posted by Robert Starke on 10-26-2006 11:57 AM:

Terry Wilford

Tell me about the Speck female. Thanks, Robert

Posted by jeffrey robinso on 10-26-2006 12:10 PM:

Robert, I will let you know.

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