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Posted by grwaskom on 08-15-2009 12:46 AM:

MR HALL

IF YOU ARE GETTING A BLUE PUP FROM RON T. THEN YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT HIS DOGS COMPETE WITH AND WIN IN THE HUNTS, BIG AND SMALL AS MUCH AS ANY LINE OF WALKERS. I HUNT B/T S
BUT IF I WERE TO CHANGE BLUE DOGS FROM MR TAYLOR WOULD BE WERE I WOULD GO. YOU CANT GO WRONG

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Posted by Bradley E. Hall on 08-15-2009 02:40 AM:

Thanks for encouragement greg, Jerry Spurlock suggested Ron before anyone else.


Posted by DonBTechler on 08-15-2009 04:11 AM:

I like walkers and black dogs the best but I have hunted with some ****ed good blues too. There are good and bad in all breeds.


Posted by mike leach on 08-15-2009 06:53 AM:

I own 2 walkers 3 blueticks and a redbone. The walkers are Wipeout bred and I like them both alot. When they are gone there won't be anymore for me. That is simply because I'm sick of all the whining and backstabbing from the walker men. You go to a hunt and if they aren't trashing on you having an off colored dog then they are just trashing your dogs in general and it doesn't matter if they have ever actually hunted with it or not.
I'm not an elementary teacher so I don't have to associate with people who behave like children and I won't. I know there are good walker guys out there and I wish them all the best. You could say that there are so many more backstabbing walkermen
because there are so many more walkermen but, that logic doesn't fly with them about walkers winning so I guess they must just be childish backstabbers because they hunt walkers, right?


Posted by capt_agricultur on 08-15-2009 12:14 PM:

JMO

We keep the naturals cull the others ......Blueticks since 19 54l


Posted by ov_blues on 08-15-2009 03:50 PM:

The fact of the matter is when you see a Blue dog do something stupid (that all breeds will do) it stands out and people want to judge the whole breed. You see a bunch of Walkers do the same stupid things and it doesn't stand out as much because you are seeing more Walkers do it right also. There are also Blueticks that can get it done the right way. There just isn't as much opportunity to see the goods ones because you aren't drawing out with as many good Blue dogs.

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Posted by glynnsdawgs63 on 08-15-2009 05:39 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by glynnsdawgs63
I hunt Bluetick dogs because I like them.My old Smokey River dogs are fast on track tree hard and have a loud mouth.
I don't talk bad about nobody's hounds because you feed what you like and I feed what I like.
I don't hunt in the hunts because I am hard of hearing but I love to coon hunt.I have seen Bluetick dogs trail and tree a coon that a reject fox dog can't even smell.

SO YOU FEED YOUR WALKERS AND I"LL FEED MY BLUETICKS,I WILL NEVER SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT ANYBODY"S DOG REGARDLESS OF HOW GOOD OR BAD THE DOG IS>

GLYNN HOLMES



like I said

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Posted by bluedogtn on 08-15-2009 07:34 PM:

I own a bullet bred bluetick pup thats been treeing since he was 6 months old,a 6 yr old nailor bred walker, and a 3 month old utchman female that just treed her first squirrel this morning. I hunt both and the way you guys fight over blue dogs and walkers makes me glad i never entered any of them in a competition. I remember when it used to be about the sound of music coming from beneath the tree,not whos is better than whos.


Posted by trott on 08-16-2009 04:28 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by woodedwalker
Joey, this statment is a fraud!!! A fake!!! I have owned 3 good and i mean good walker dogs and if i walked to 20 trees i better see 19 coon. There is NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GOOD COMP DOG AND A PLEASURE DOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A dog should tree a coon the exact same way!!! I dont know how many hunts you have been to BUT i can tell you that leaves or no leaves walkers blow every other breed out of the water !!!!!! Keep using the same excuses people have been using for years theres way to many of them !!! were all out numbered 10 to 1 !!! There all slick treeing idiots !!! Want a pillow to cry on for every time a walker beats you???? why are there so many of them????? people want what WINS !!!!!!!!! and win they do!!!!!!!!!! Man you bluetic guys are unbelievable!!! We can show you stat after stat and you still refuse to agree!!!!!!!! "YOU HUNT BLUES YOU LOOSE!!!!!!!" Ive never in my life seen a bluedog win consistently!!!!!! NEVER

I hunt Walker dogs and am very pleased with mine, he is as accurate as any dog i have owned. BUT i think if walker breeders will be honest with themselves they will realize that with the breeds treeing ability so strong it has created a higher percentage of dogs that tree to quick. In my opinion to say that there is not a problem with slick treeing dogs in the Walker breed is just nieve. Just my opinion, Trott.

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Posted by theo on 08-17-2009 03:08 AM:

bluedogs

well,...in my experience,the difference between bluedogs and walkers are...bluedogs are very accurate,walkers arent,bluedogs are cold nosed,walkers are hot to medium.bluedogs are excellent, superb,honest,hard working track dogs,sorry but what i've seen here in new england walkers a'rent good track dogs.sorry again..just sayin what i've seen.i did see one walker in new hampshire which was not bad.his only fault was he babbled like hellllll....way too much for me.a serious problem if you ask me..and alot of people would agree with me.he would also run with trashy dogs...but would not open with them.a problem that needed to be addressed.dont get me wrong i've seen some bluedogs that needed to culled,and werent coondogs.but unfortuantly here in new england..and what i hear in other parts of the country,walkers are just riddled with bad habbits.i would love too see one labled a coondog..with my eyes.hope too see one day.i've heard of them.butt i need to see one to believe.if you want to tree coon consistantly and accuratlly on a regular basis hunt a blue dog or another breed.


Posted by Bradley E. Hall on 08-17-2009 03:56 AM:

Was that a walker dog that just won 12,000 dollars last night in Robinson Illinois??


Posted by coon hunter on 08-17-2009 05:27 AM:

I agree 100%.

quote:
Originally posted by trott
I hunt Walker dogs and am very pleased with mine, he is as accurate as any dog i have owned. BUT i think if walker breeders will be honest with themselves they will realize that with the breeds treeing ability so strong it has created a higher percentage of dogs that tree to quick. In my opinion to say that there is not a problem with slick treeing dogs in the Walker breed is just nieve. Just my opinion, Trott.
But you'll never get a walker man to admit that one!LOL These breed wars have been going on for as long as I can remember and they'll be going long after I am gone. The walker guys on here with their chest blowed out and giving all the lip service, are just riding the coat tails of the walker men that have actually gotten it done for the breed. It is the same old story, it is always "This TW or that TW?" They never say "My TW is the WCh." Because (with the exception of a couple ON HERE) their TW's aren't any better than the next guys off color.

I comp hunt walkers (not right now) because they have been bred for comp. I pleasure hunt with black, blue, tri-colored, red or anything that has the traits I find a pleasure to hunt. The main difference is I want my pleasure dog to check in if he hasn't struck and finish his tracks under a coon. I don't want my comp dog to come back PERIOD, I want him to find a tree and be on it (with a coon at least 70% of the time).

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Posted by TJH on 08-17-2009 02:10 PM:

The facts are when the money is on the line you better leave ole boo hoo blue in the kennel and get youre best walker dog and if you dont have one then get one. Dont believe me? Just look at any kc that puts on money hunts. Tell me what breed do you see in the winner circle? What one breed dominates? If youre satisfied walking to alot of den trees or waiting 30 minutes to an hour for youre dog to tree then stick with blues. If you want an action packed hound then get a walker. They are so diverse thanks to the tremendous breeding thats available. So many options to choose from.


Posted by C&S Kennel on 08-17-2009 03:48 PM:

When I was younger there was every color of dog, except brindle, out there in the kennel for the past 6 - 8 years theres been nothing but blueticks. Blueticks is what worked for my father and they stuck.
Myself I like how our blue dogs operate, they win hunts they lose some, they tree coons and that really all that matters. I've seen dogs of other colors i've liked and i'm not color blind and will probally someday own another color dog but for now they're all blue.

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Posted by recon on 08-17-2009 05:20 PM:

I wonder if I should tell my slow boo hooing blue gyp I am hunting in the hunts that these Walker dogs she keeps drawing out with are so superior? She hasn't lost a cast to a Walker dog yet. LOL
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Posted by JDMIII on 08-17-2009 05:39 PM:

I have a blue female and a red female. I love my Bluetick she is nothing fancy, she is pretty honest and does her thing. I have put her in a few hunts and she can hang with the best. I don't know about you Mr. Hall but, I hate a mouthy babbling track dog, I see alot of walker dogs that from the time you turn them loose to the time they tree they are barking, to me that's not hunting. I like a dog to open here, there, and get it treed to me that is honest hunting. I have hunted with some nice Walker hounds, but I don't want one. Everyone and their brother has one. That's why you see more in the winner's circle. I hunt what suit's me she is a working man's hound, meaning I can turn her loose she will get in there with her nose down and tree a COON within 20 to 100 yards away! Then I snap her up and come home. I wouldn't trade her for nothing. To me I see no point in a dog that runs 2 miles before they hunt. I don't care what anyone says! That is not hunting to me! My dog will tree more coon's to a dog that blows the country any day.

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Posted by TJH on 08-17-2009 07:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by recon
I wonder if I should tell my slow boo hooing blue gyp I am hunting in the hunts that these Walker dogs she keeps drawing out with are so superior? She hasn't lost a cast to a Walker dog yet. LOL
There are good and great dogs in all breeds. There are also mediocre and sorry dogs in every breed.

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A reply like this shows how many hunts you have entered. I tell you what i have a good house pet that has no nuts on him. You come here to Ohio and bring youre money and a few tissues and see what happens. And you JDMIII just look at the winners circle. Get into youre bloodlines magazine and look at every big hunt and tell me what do you see in the winners circle? Because it sura aint no blue dogs. Then look in youre state standings in pkc and tell me what you see???? Sure dont see any bluetics. Please inform me if im correct? Ask yourself why is there so many of them? Hmmmmm ponder on it a minute.... People want what win. And for all you that say they all babble or they all slick or they are all mean or whatever lame excuse you come up with next time how come youre dominate bluetic breed has to put on their own world hunt????? Cuz they know they have no hope against the walkers. My walkers that i have owned have been very quick to tree and deadly accurate and if they werent then i wouldnt own them. If bluetics were a good breed and got it done the right way then more people would hunt them. Same with redbones and plotts.


Posted by Chobbsrdbnes on 08-17-2009 07:30 PM:

All blue world hunt

Dont you guys that hunt bluetics think its kinda embarassing that you have to have youre own all bluetic world hunt? Heck i dont remember the year but one year the all bluetic world hunt didnt even have a winner. Now if that aint pitifull then i dont know what is.


Posted by recon on 08-17-2009 07:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by TJH
A reply like this shows how many hunts you have entered. I tell you what i have a good house pet that has no nuts on him. You come here to Ohio and bring youre money and a few tissues and see what happens. And you JDMIII just look at the winners circle. Get into youre bloodlines magazine and look at every big hunt and tell me what do you see in the winners circle? Because it sura aint no blue dogs. Then look in youre state standings in pkc and tell me what you see???? Sure dont see any bluetics. Please inform me if im correct? Ask yourself why is there so many of them? Hmmmmm ponder on it a minute.... People want what win. And for all you that say they all babble or they all slick or they are all mean or whatever lame excuse you come up with next time how come youre dominate bluetic breed has to put on their own world hunt????? Cuz they know they have no hope against the walkers. My walkers that i have owned have been very quick to tree and deadly accurate and if they werent then i wouldnt own them. If bluetics were a good breed and got it done the right way then more people would hunt them. Same with redbones and plotts.


Doesn't matter if I have been in one cast or one thousand cast, if Walkers were as powerful as you make out, it shouldn't have taken but once for me to get whipped and go home with my tail between my legs.

I am not above hunting or owning any breed of COONDOG!!!! But then im not closed minded or naive!!! I see that you just joined this board. You must be a recent bandwagoner or one of those that runs his head on a regular basis and has been banned. Either way, I see you have a lot to learn about hounds and how to talk to people. You will see that none of the well known, respectable, educated Walker men get on here and spout off such non sense. They too realize that any night they could get beat by any dog of any color.

Wake up and realize something. There are good and bad in all breeds. Quit denying that fact. One of these days, one of them might just slip up on you and your world beaters and make you look silly!!!

But, for sure don't sit behind a computer in Ohio and tell me in Texas to come on up with my money and tissues, all the while hiding behind no name and what you can spout off that someone else accomplished in a magazine. I might just slip up on you and make you look silly!!! But since you are the one who obviously needs to prove how superior your hounds are to all others, you are welcome to come my way anytime. Just send me a pm and we will go hunting!!!!

Jeff Bradford


Posted by Fred Harroun on 08-17-2009 08:22 PM:

TJH=OHIOTHUNDER=WOODEDWALKER=TREVOR HECK ALL THE SAME PERSON ALWAYS BASHIN OTHER BREEDS maybe the mods need to give him couple months off of here its gettin old

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Posted by recon on 08-17-2009 08:26 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Fred Harroun
TJH=OHIOTHUNDER=WOODEDWALKER=TREVOR HECK ALL THE SAME PERSON ALWAYS BASHIN OTHER BREEDS maybe the mods need to give him couple months off of here its gettin old


AAHHH, yes. That explains alot. You have to kinda feel sorry for someone who is obviously that angry and miserable, don't you?


Posted by truebluefordman on 08-17-2009 08:45 PM:

if ya want to pick on blue dogs not winning and all them walker dogs are so much better comp dogs then why was it in 1986 i think there was now world champion ... not one plus point from any breed ... hummmmmmmm what !!!!!!!!!! walker power my butt,, the main think is if you have to ask why hunt blue dogs you just dont have a clue!!!!! one day you might but it is just a blue thang!!!!

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Posted by GA DAWG on 08-17-2009 10:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by truebluefordman
if ya want to pick on blue dogs not winning and all them walker dogs are so much better comp dogs then why was it in 1986 i think there was now world champion ... not one plus point from any breed ... hummmmmmmm what !!!!!!!!!! walker power my butt,, the main think is if you have to ask why hunt blue dogs you just dont have a clue!!!!! one day you might but it is just a blue thang!!!!
So you telling me not even a bluetick could tree a coon in 1986 or was there not any that even made it to the world hunt?

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Posted by rance56 on 08-17-2009 10:31 PM:

folks would be a whole lot better off if they just worried about what was on the end of their lead and how it stacked up to what all else is out there.

i hunt blueticks because i want to blaze my own trail, not ride the coat-tails other's accomplishments in their respective breed.

and most importantly, you dont hear charlie daniels singing about no walker dog!


btw Brad, you cant go wrong with Ron Taylors stock of blue dogs.

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Posted by stillwater farm on 08-17-2009 10:43 PM:

I've seen good in both breeds,I've also seen holes in both breeds big enough to drive a truck through.I guess it's what ever a man likes,he's the one feeding it.I'll not bash a man for hunting what he likes,JMO.

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