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Posted by Nailor Man on 05-17-2009 06:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Tazman
How would you know what a wet ashtray smelled like. Recon some one drinks heavy and woke up nose first in one. I would be able to smell the booze on you 10 ft away. lol Only reason for the ashtray being wet is you lost your cookies sobering up. lol

He probably has been around enough smokers to know what he is talking about.

I smoked for nearly 15 years. I couldn't smell ANYTHING until I quit. Now the smell makes me sick to my stomach.

Posted by Nailor Man on 05-17-2009 07:13 PM:

If I was guessing,m I would say they banned smoking on their grounds to keep from having to clean up the cigarette butts everywhere.

I was at SETWD's and was ashamed at the number of cigarette butts on the ground and being THROWN on the ground by visitors there.

Posted by wrinkletreeknls on 05-17-2009 07:18 PM:

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If you want to smoke that is your choice and I don’t have a problem with that. But for the most part smokers are very disrespectful to those of us that don’t smoke. As a non-smoker the smell of the smoke makes me sick to my stomach and it is worst since I’ve been pregnant. I try my hardest to stay away from people smoking so I don’t have to worry about what it is going to do to me. But when you have people walking around smoking without a care as to where their smoke is going or where they are flicking their ashes it makes life very difficult. I have had smoke blown at me along with ashes flicked on me by smokers not caring who was walking by. With so many laws about smoking inside, smokers feel they should be able to smoke outside wherever they want to with no concern about others around them. I think it is great they are making this a smoke free event, I wish our local club would do this as well.

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Posted by MikeO on 05-17-2009 10:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Nailor Man
If I was guessing,m I would say they banned smoking on their grounds to keep from having to clean up the cigarette butts everywhere.

I was at SETWD's and was ashamed at the number of cigarette butts on the ground and being THROWN on the ground by visitors there.

i agree with this post, so you enforce littering laws. try to educate people on the mess they make with butts. their is no need to make up new rules just because you cant enforce the rules that already exist.

some people need to stay busy minding their own business, i don't need your help minding mine.

just my thoughts...............

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Posted by Richard Bull on 05-17-2009 11:22 PM:

Alright now, I put this up so that everyone will know about this new rule.

We need to watch with the name calling and keep this on the some what civil side.

Post your comments but lets leave it at that please.

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Posted by TJ RAYFIELD on 05-17-2009 11:28 PM:

my question is their gping to be a little no smoking person going around tellin everyone not to light up cause he's going to be very busy at our booth...............lol

Posted by Richard Bull on 05-18-2009 12:03 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by TJ RAYFIELD
my question is their gping to be a little no smoking person going around tellin everyone not to light up cause he's going to be very busy at our booth...............lol

Im gonna check and see if it's a paying job and if it is I'M TAKING IT!!!!

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Posted by Richard Nethery on 05-18-2009 01:15 AM:

What would be wrong with just setting up Smoking Areas?
Most smokers wouldnt have a problem with that.

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Posted by Richard Bull on 05-18-2009 01:20 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Nethery
What would be wrong with just setting up Smoking Areas?
Most smokers wouldnt have a problem with that.

Thats what I was thinking.. At least give us SOMEWHERE to go without having to leave the grounds..

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Posted by hellcat on 05-18-2009 01:26 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by TJ RAYFIELD
my question is their gping to be a little no smoking person going around tellin everyone not to light up cause he's going to be very busy at our booth...............lol

Watch Out
I think they are called the Anti Smoking Nazi's for a reason.<LOL>

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Posted by spudsmom on 05-18-2009 08:32 PM:

I have seen several posts that have said if you don't like the smoke you can just move away. That is not always possible. If you are standing in line, if you are at a movie, or out to eat, or in a crowded room. I hate it around kids. Some smokers are very aware of those around them and make every effort not to inflict their habit on others but some are not. As always, the abusers ruine things for everyone. I am a non-smoker. I have bad allergies and suffer greatly from cigarrette smoke. I have no problem with someone smoking outdoors, and as long as I do not have to suffer from someones habit, I have no problem with it. This has been a law in my state for some time and I enjoy eating out without having to fight for fresh air. We have enough polution problems as it is, and if I can avoid one up close and personal I am all for limiting smoking to outdoors. Make a smoking area, nonsmokers will have no problem with that!

Posted by Cynthia on 05-18-2009 09:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by wrinkletreeknls
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...But when you have people walking around smoking without a care as to where their smoke is going or where they are flicking their ashes it makes life very difficult. I have had smoke blown at me along with ashes flicked on me by smokers not caring who was walking by. With so many laws about smoking inside, smokers feel they should be able to smoke outside wherever they want to with no concern about others around them....

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Bull
How does smoking in the WIDE OPEN OUTDOORS where the air flows FREELY have ANY affect on ANYONE but the one who is smoking?

I agree, but just because its outside and the air moved freely does not mean that a person will not be in the path of that airflow. If smokers could be a little more considerate and point their mouth and head UP, the the smoke would go over people's head instead of into it.

Its funny to see this many people up in arms about not being able to smoke, but you cant get half this many to care enough to contact their legislature to help stop and fight against some of the ridiculous hunting and dog bills that are being proposed. If the smokers put this much energy into that, the antis wouldn't have a chance. jmo

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Posted by Mark A. Hauck on 05-18-2009 09:33 PM:

Well if the Anti-Smokers, Anti-Everything else would spend more time fighting for everyones rights rather than imposing their will onto others...then the Anit-Dog/Hunters would also never have a chance !!!

Sorry I spent 22 years giving folks the right to say and do what ever they wanted per our Constitution and Laws to be forced to do something the MINORITY wants all the rest of us to follow.

I've seen all the Anti Smokers here in Illinois raising cain to get smoking out of the bars, resturants and they don't even go to them, and now they are failing and closing faster then anything I've seen.

There were "Non-Smoking places" but that was not good enough for them...they wanted all of the places to be non-smoking and to FORCE their WILL onto others...just like the Anit-Hunters, Peta, and the HSUS !!!

Well I watch were I smoke, field strip my smokes, throw the butts in the trash and if my money is not good enough along with my habits then count me OUT..simple and its my way of protesting against the Minority few and for my rights as an American !!!

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Posted by patches9452 on 05-18-2009 09:40 PM:

smoking

my personal opinion is if a town or state has a smoking ban they should not be able to sell them...if that was the case we would hear it no more

Posted by Kenny Eads on 05-18-2009 10:53 PM:

I doubt that the Minority is non-smokering bar goers. I shouldn't have to taste cigarettes while I'm eating my food. I grew up in a house of smokers and have watched my mother lie in the hospital to have 3/4 of a lung removed from Cigs but not once did they ever sit and think about us kids riding in that car with the windows just barely cracked chain smoking. People think about your kids while you are smoking around them. I now have the worst allergies you could ever imagine. I cannot even stand to be around someone smoking but I don't have a problem with you smoking outside.

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Posted by Nailor Man on 05-18-2009 11:23 PM:

quote:
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I doubt that the Minority is non-smokering bar goers. I shouldn't have to taste cigarettes while I'm eating my food. I grew up in a house of smokers and have watched my mother lie in the hospital to have 3/4 of a lung removed from Cigs but not once did they ever sit and think about us kids riding in that car with the windows just barely cracked chain smoking. People think about your kids while you are smoking around them. I now have the worst allergies you could ever imagine. I cannot even stand to be around someone smoking but I don't have a problem with you smoking outside.

I agree Kenny. Being a former smoker,I can say that smokers are the most self centered selfish folks there is. I sat down one day and conservatively estimated what I had spent on cigs in the 15 years I smoked and I could have easily sent both of my children to a good local college.

Having said that. i think everyone should be able to smoke if they want to. Just please realize that people don not stand downwind of a campfire fire a simple reason.

Posted by Mark A. Hauck on 05-18-2009 11:28 PM:

Folks I guess I missed something, but my parents smoked, never in the house, never in the car when we where in it and I do the same. I have my Grandsons here almost every weekend, never smoke around them, as most know we don't smoke in the house and never in the car with the kids or grand-kids. Maybe I thought a large percentage did this.

As for your food, if there are 2 eating places in town and one is non=smoking and the other smoking ...go to the non-smoking place.

What we saw here in Illinois is the non-smoking places in Chicago were flat going under because hummmmm those folks did not seem to go out as much as smokers, so they wanted all to suffer their same fate. If I took my mom (a non-smoker) out to eat we went to a non-smoking place simple but nope seems a group would rather IMPOSE their beliefs onto the rest of us....

Humm kinda seems like some other organizations I know of

Posted by B Downing on 05-19-2009 04:56 AM:

Doesn't this country have enough problems that we shouldn't be fighting about stupid crap all the time! JMO

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Posted by BRYAN J on 05-19-2009 05:22 AM:

Just like human nature to argue!
I agree with Downing, better things to talk about.
Richard was just stating something and now it's a hot topic.

Get on with life, it's to short to be mad over something like this.
Could be alot worse off. I bet the men and women serving our country wish this is all they had to complain about!

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Posted by dkrause on 05-19-2009 06:42 AM:

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Originally posted by coonhuntercp
I agree with you plott power. I"m not trying to argue or say that smokers are bad people. I just feel like I should have the right to clean healthy air and I shouldn't have to smell or breath smoke in public. Public areas inside I say no question no smoking. Outside could be different

i hope u really dont mean this, do any of you clowns complaining about second hand smoke outside have any idea what other far more hazzardous chemicals are in our air?
you ever see that john travolta movie "boy in the plastic bubble"? you should really consider moving into one to be safe from the dirtty air.

also truthfully, i just dont understand why they dont just outlaw smoking. it would be much easier.

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Posted by MikeO on 05-19-2009 07:15 AM:

Re: smoking

quote:
Originally posted by patches9452
my personal opinion is if a town or state has a smoking ban they should not be able to sell them...if that was the case we would hear it no more

best post on this thread!

they sure like collecting that tax money don't they? talk about a double standard.

Posted by champion123 on 05-19-2009 08:26 AM:

will the people

on medical marijuna have a place to smoke there meds at there

Posted by Robert Johnson on 05-19-2009 12:22 PM:

guess i'll have to stay home if my outside rights are taken away too. i'm beginning to believe we are living in IRAN, where the people have to do what the musilum leaders say, and low and behold, OBAMA....hmmmmmmmm

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Posted by mrbluedog on 05-19-2009 01:26 PM:

What I want to know is what is the fine? I know me and being outdoors will want to lite up . I don't have a problem with inside but outside is a defferent story.I agree once they start taking rights we are no different than Iran and some others

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Posted by MATTY G on 05-19-2009 03:26 PM:

I don't smoke but what is the big deal about people smoking outside? This country has become way to PC..These people that go around our country preaching all this crap, don't they have a real job?

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