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Posted by GA DAWG on 11-20-2008 03:25 PM:

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Originally posted by smokey7
Can't you understand Ga.Dawg? Our dogs aren't any good. That's the reason we can't tree 8 single coons in 2 hours.

I treed 3 singles awhile back one night and seen 8 coons!! On state land! Took ALOT longer than 3 hours though LOL.....

Posted by perry co cooner on 11-20-2008 03:29 PM:

Oh yeah. My dad can beat up your dad.

LOL..........that's about what this thread has become.

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Posted by Barry Brown on 11-20-2008 03:39 PM:

GA DAWG, it looks like you have a shot to show what you have. Summer time hunting is nothing come north in the winter with the snow on the ground then you will see. The man said come on up but will you?

Posted by GA DAWG on 11-20-2008 04:06 PM:

Yall want me to wait till jan or feb to come show yall some coons?

Posted by Ray&Luie on 11-20-2008 04:22 PM:

World Hunts

They have had hunts in TX , TN And Alabama

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Posted by smokey7 on 11-20-2008 04:26 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by GA DAWG
Yall want me to wait till jan or feb to come show yall some coons?

It seems to me we got to get on the same page as far as what these yanke...... uhhhhh I meant northern folks are talking about. They say 8 to 10 SINGLE coons in 2 hours time is nothing unless it's November through Febuary. Then the coons aren't even out of the den at all.

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Posted by smokey7 on 11-20-2008 04:27 PM:

Re: World Hunts

quote:
Originally posted by Ray&Luie
They have had hunts in TX , TN And Alabama

Yes. It's amazing what some really good feeder bucket's can do isn't it?

Posted by Ray&Luie on 11-20-2008 04:32 PM:

Re: Re: World Hunts

quote:
Originally posted by smokey7
Yes. It's amazing what some really good feeder bucket's can do isn't it?

Well im sorry to tell ya smoke, I know the guy that took the final four cast out in Boaz and he dont hunt feeders sorry to disapoint ya

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Posted by GA DAWG on 11-20-2008 04:41 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by smokey7
It seems to me we got to get on the same page as far as what these yanke...... uhhhhh I meant northern folks are talking about. They say 8 to 10 SINGLE coons in 2 hours time is nothing unless it's November through Febuary. Then the coons aren't even out of the den at all.

I do know they get hard to tree up there in the winter when all the big snows fall...LOL... You would not catch me up there then..I'm just messing with em.I do however know for a fact that hunting is easier up there than here on a 12 month average.Dont even compare and never will. You might see 10 or 12 coon cross the rd in front of you before you ever turn loose! Its nice I tell ya.. Now with all that being said..If I'm going to a world hunt..I'm wanting to go where they have enough coons to tree a few..Not here where you might tree 1 if you tree any..Let it be a coon treeing contest for all I'm concerened..I'd prefer big woods though..I cant hunt those patch woods..Set us up a trip to the north country.I'll go and drive!!

Posted by smokey7 on 11-20-2008 04:44 PM:

Re: Re: Re: World Hunts

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Originally posted by Ray&Luie
Well im sorry to tell ya smoke, I know the guy that took the final four cast out in Boaz and he dont hunt feeders sorry to disapoint ya

Well, I bet them nice honest folks scored 2,000 plus points didn't they? Ain't that nice.

Posted by Ray&Luie on 11-20-2008 04:51 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: World Hunts

quote:
Originally posted by smokey7
Well, I bet them nice honest folks scored 2,000 plus points didn't they? Ain't that nice.

Why dont you call Mr Glen Pruitt, from Ohatchee Alabama and ask him he Guided the final cast , didnt have a dog in the hunt but if you look at a lot of the Good Blooded Redbone hounds you will find his Old Choctaw Dog some place in the Breading

and the dog that won the Hunt was Walker

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Posted by Lee Stocking on 11-20-2008 04:58 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by smokey7
It seems to me we got to get on the same page as far as what these yanke...... uhhhhh I meant northern folks are talking about. They say 8 to 10 SINGLE coons in 2 hours time is nothing unless it's November through Febuary. Then the coons aren't even out of the den at all.

Those are pretty harsh words coming from a Southern Liberal...

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Posted by smokey7 on 11-20-2008 05:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Lee Stocking
Those are pretty harsh words coming from a Southern Liberal...

Those aren't harsh!!!!!!!! LOL LOL

And i don't consider myself a "liberal" either.

Posted by smokey7 on 11-20-2008 05:05 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: World Hunts

quote:
Originally posted by Ray&Luie
Why dont you call Mr Glen Pruitt, from Ohatchee Alabama and ask him he Guided the final cast , didnt have a dog in the hunt but if you look at a lot of the Good Blooded Redbone hounds you will find his Old Choctaw Dog some place in the Breading
and the dog that won the Hunt was Walker

I know where Boaz Alabama is. It isn't that far at all. I also know what a feeder bucket is and what it can do. You give the me the score and I'll tell you EXACTLY what the situation was.

Posted by Lee Stocking on 11-20-2008 05:12 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by smokey7
Those aren't harsh!!!!!!!! LOL LOL And i don't consider myself a "liberal" either.

Those northern coonhunters might not like to be called yankees. I know alot of northern coonhunters that are PURE country. You act like a Liberal on here.

Posted by perry co cooner on 11-20-2008 05:17 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: World Hunts

quote:
Originally posted by smokey7
I know where Boaz Alabama is. It isn't that far at all. I also know what a feeder bucket is and what it can do. You give the me the score and I'll tell you EXACTLY what the situation was.

How many different area's of the country have you actually hunted in besides North Georgia? According to you, you have a fine blue hound and I'm happy for you and hope your future dogs turn out just as good but there is always the possibility that someone, somewhere might possibly have a better hound that is capable of posting huge scores. Some do certainly seem a little high to me too but I would never make such a bold statement without PROOF as in actually seeing it with my own eyes. I think they are in the final casts of World Hunts for a reason and one reason is because the dog can tree some coons in a hurry I'm sure. JMO

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Posted by GA DAWG on 11-20-2008 07:15 PM:

Was the world hunt not in the land of milk an honey for coons this year? Could someone post the highest score of the world hunt?

Posted by Loren Simpson on 11-20-2008 07:38 PM:

587.5 won it..

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Posted by Oak Ridge on 11-20-2008 08:24 PM:

Geez,

First off...sheepster, blacksheep, Jason, or Smokey7...whatever you are calling yourself these days...we have been down this road before.

Here is the biggest difference in our "yankee" coon population and the "rebel" coon population. (lets take density out of the equation...we know there are more coon here than there)

WEATHER.... See in the fertile farmland of the northern regions (I know...you may have never ventured north of the Mason-Dixon line) ole ricky don't have to travel near as far to get his evening meal. And he's big, fat, and content to lay in a den tree for the majority of the time when the weather is not favorable for him.

How the heck did he get so fat you say? Well he spent ALL FREAKING SUMMER eating. He built up a layer of fat on the nuts, berries, insects, night crawlers, corn, wheat, soy beans, crawfish, and whatever else struck his fancy! What's that have to do with it you say?

Well, in the summer time when the coon are building this layer of fat, to prepare them for the long cold winter, we are out treeing 8 to 10 singles in two hours. Its actually pretty simple to figure out if you get past that stubborn "southern heritage" wear your thin coon population like a badge of honor mentality.

Yes, the coon is a cousin (kin for you Jason) to the bear. Now most everybody knows that bears hibernate in the winter time. How long they spend in hybernation depends on how far south they are located. Bear in Canada den up not to be seen until spring. Bear in the southern regions, simple spend more time "sleeping in the den" than they do out foraging.

So you see sheep, as I've told you before, the world is a big place, and it's not all as simple as you care to make it there in Rockmart.

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Posted by Oak Ridge on 11-20-2008 08:35 PM:

As for the world hunt location.....I'm not sure that I could possibly care any less. I think for the sake of prestige, UKC would PREFER to have it in a place that would remove as much of the "luck" factor as possible.

Lets say you are hunting in ole "sheepsters" favorite spot outside of Rockmart GA.....

Four dog cast, let's make it the final four just for giggles. All four dogs have proven that they can tree a coon by getting through an RQE, a Zone, and have done will in the world hunt...we have to assume they are capable of treeing a coon.

Dog A....from the North
Dog B....from the South
Dog C...from the East
Dog D...from the West

We cast the dogs on the first drop, and the all go different directions. A goes North, B goes South, C goes East, and D goes West.

Whoooweee we are having a coon hunt. An hour and fifteen minutes go by...and not a bark has been heard from any of the dogs. We are walking in the direction that we "think" the dogs went, and at one hour and 55 minutes gone in the hunt, ole Princess (Dog B) is struck and treed. The hunt has been over for almost 30 minutes by the time we get to her, and we score her tree. Yup...plus her up...we have a new World Hunt Winner.

Now, someone please tell me how this denotes the "best" coon dog? The rest of the story is that Dog A is found an hour after the hunt is over....treed with a coon, some three miles North of where Princess was treed. Dog C....well I'll be darned...he was treed too, but he was five miles East of the one dog that was scored in the hunt. Dog D...he was found treed with a danged coon....but he was about three miles West of old WCH Princess.

Which was the best dog?

For my money, I would like to see luck and "home territory" taken out of the equation. If there are six coon per square mile, then each dog has an equal opportunity to tree a coon within hearing and scoring distance of the cast. If there is one coon per three square miles....the lucky dog, not the best dog, trees the coon. If a dog can tree more than one coon in a two hour hunt, and the rest only tree one...that's the best dog...not the dog that trees the only coon found in a two hour hunt....that's luck of the draw.

The difference is in mentality. Sheep goes hunting to tree A coon...I go hunting to tree SOME coon.....

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Posted by Dbradbury3 on 11-20-2008 08:47 PM:

I did not know that this post would stir it up so much or i would;nt have posted it, but oak ridge you make a great point , if we all could agree on one thing it would be the more coons you see the more fun the night is , lets just keep it simple , i have went to the grand american , it nothing like here i went down all week to get my dog ready and she looked like she did up here, except she had to go deeper farther and took her a heck of alot longer to get treed, i guess what im trying to say is why would you want to wait two hours and see one coon when you could see 10 coons in two hours and see dogs split treed all night under there own coon , and i remind you all of this is done within a couple hundred yards of each drop.

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Posted by Ray&Luie on 11-20-2008 09:02 PM:

coons

quote:
Originally posted by Dbradbury3
I did not know that this post would stir it up so much or i would;nt have posted it, but oak ridge you make a great point , if we all could agree on one thing it would be the more coons you see the more fun the night is , lets just keep it simple , i have went to the grand american , it nothing like here i went down all week to get my dog ready and she looked like she did up here, except she had to go deeper farther and took her a heck of alot longer to get treed, i guess what im trying to say is why would you want to wait two hours and see one coon when you could see 10 coons in two hours and see dogs split treed all night under there own coon , and i remind you all of this is done within a couple hundred yards of each drop.

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I think you have really hit the nail on the head, when you have to make more that one drop in a hunt that makes a lot of diffrence aposs to makeing one drop and never haveing to leave the same track of woods ,here you might have to make two or three diffrent cast and then you might not get a stike quick,also it might take a while for your hound to get to where the coon is.

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Posted by m4rcut on 11-20-2008 11:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dbradbury3
I did not know that this post would stir it up so much or i would;nt have posted it, but oak ridge you make a great point , if we all could agree on one thing it would be the more coons you see the more fun the night is , lets just keep it simple , i have went to the grand american , it nothing like here i went down all week to get my dog ready and she looked like she did up here, except she had to go deeper farther and took her a heck of alot longer to get treed, i guess what im trying to say is why would you want to wait two hours and see one coon when you could see 10 coons in two hours and see dogs split treed all night under there own coon , and i remind you all of this is done within a couple hundred yards of each drop.

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I think your full of it danny. hahaha how you doing buddy give me a call i lost my phone and all my numbers

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Posted by m4rcut on 11-20-2008 11:55 PM:

Re: Re: World Hunts

quote:
Originally posted by smokey7
Yes. It's amazing what some really good feeder bucket's can do isn't it?

i bet the only thing your dog can tree is a bisquit. and i bet it don't do that right half the time

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Posted by jackbob42 on 11-21-2008 12:58 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Oak Ridge

The difference is in mentality. Sheep goes hunting to tree A coon...I go hunting to tree SOME coon.....

No Joe , I think the difference is ............
He's hunting a bluetick and you're hunting a walker ! LOL

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