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Posted by davebastean on 11-04-2008 04:16 AM:

Re: yea right

quote:
Originally posted by Daren McKenzie
Those 8 years were years that Reagan had brought this country to...nothing slick willy did.....and for your info. the economy was already starting to go down when slick willy went out of office...so blow that smoke up someone that will listen....by the way are you an american, do you acknowledge the US Flag? Probably not if you are for nobama.........

Those 8 years of Reagan brought us to the recession of Daddy Bush and high defficits. Clinton precided over peace and prosperity and balanced the budget to boot. Yes things were beginning to cycle back when he left office but Bush's policies took us head first into the tank. Why else would his approval rating be in the twenty percents? Even McCain doesn't want to associate himself with the loser.

Posted by davebastean on 11-04-2008 04:26 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by rance56
if things we so great under clinton why didnt yall elect gore his VP for another 4 years and if things were so bad for the past 8 years why was bush in the white house for the past 4?

1 other question for the obama supporters, personally what have you done recently or currently doing to improve you skill sets and qualifications?

To answer your first question. I guess we all must have been drunk. On your second question are you saying that only Obama supporters need to enhance our learning and skills?

Posted by davebastean on 11-04-2008 04:31 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by daustin
That 43% is considered in dollar amounts. What is your definition of rich by the way? Clinton could have prevented this war but but she wouldn't. She had Bin Laden located and sighted in on and wouldn't pull the trigger. I'm glad McCain is closer to Bush than is Obama. I would like to keep my guns thank you.

We have created America not Bush. Keep in mind that the president really has very very very little power. It is the congress that runs the country. The problem in this election is that we could see a fully democratic congress and president. This really cuts out the checks and balance system. The president has the power to sign or veto a bill. He can't even cut out all the CRAP that is attached to it from both sides. So consider this. Our democratic congress enacts a bill to ban all semi automatic weapons. Some wiseass senator attaches a bill to it that raises taxes on firearms and ammo 300%. Some other senator adds in a 1 trillion dollar federal grant to build a bridge across a field to this bill. It goes in front of a democratic president that is as far left as any of us have seen in our lifetimes; what's going to happen?
ANSWER: Somewhere there will be a bridge being built across a field!

Your remark about clinton having bin laden in his sights is propaganda. No foreign government has ever admitted to authorizing us to come get him. And the war in Iraq had more to do with Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld wanting to take Saddam Hussein out than it did 911. Iraq had nothing to do with the 911 attacks. Buch rushed us to war on faulty intelligence.

Posted by davebastean on 11-04-2008 04:38 AM:

Re: well??????????

quote:
Originally posted by ringtail
dave, I'm waiting for ur chart (the one that facters in the expired Bush tax cuts)......... I don't have to research, I remember the Clinton days well.... Bill had a demo congress for 2 yrs, the other 6 were under republicans......

knox, I'm waiting for ur specific answer (what is osama going to do)?

Wing, no that does not give a specific answer what ur man will do, but it is a typical liberal response......

dave, knox, wing,

do ya'll have any concerns about the posibility of obama being elected to office with a filibuster proof majority? if no, why not? or is that what u all are secretly hoping for???????????

You don't need to do research but keep asking questions? Ok. You asked what osama is doing. He is hiding in a cave safe and sound because Bush was too busy spending billions in Iraq to get the real 911 criminal. Maybe President Obama can get him next year. If you don't like congress you can vote some of them out in two years. and if you don't like President Obama you can vote him out in four. And no I'm not afraid of a democratic majority. Can't be any worse than Bush and his six years of Republican rule.

Posted by rance56 on 11-04-2008 04:39 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by davebastean
Your remark about clinton having bin laden in his sights is propaganda. No foreign government has ever admitted to authorizing us to come get him. And the war in Iraq had more to do with Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld wanting to take Saddam Hussein out than it did 911. Iraq had nothing to do with the 911 attacks. Buch rushed us to war on faulty intelligence.

you better learn your facts alitte better. he had him in his sights, but he took his eye of the target becuase he was too busy worrying about an inter and a cigar.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/htmlCont.../21/wemb21.html

and isnt is hussien messiah obama that stated with permission or not he would hunt down bin laden into pakistan? you folks are a joke. so uniformed its said, until stupid people are not allowed to vote in this country we will comtinue to be in trouble

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Posted by ringtail on 11-04-2008 04:49 AM:

smokin.......

quote:
Originally posted by smokin-1-mo
you will not get a straight answer on this one........that makes sence...........

you are so right........ when it comes to "he said, she said" the obama zombies will hang in there all day long, but ask a direct and specific question and they will run for cover.......

Q: will obam raise taxes on the middle class?
A: yes

Q: what is going to happen to the middle class when the Bush cuts expire?
A: our taxes will go up

Q: what is going to happen when obama raises taxes on big corp.?
A: they will pass the cost on to the comsumer

Q: who are the comsumers?
A: the upper class, the middle class, the lower class and the no class

dave, knox, wing or any other obama zombie are you going to answer the question???????????????

quote:
Originally posted by ringtail do ya'll have any concerns about the posibility of obama being elected to office with a filibuster proof majority? if no, why not? or is that what u all are secretly hoping for???????????

davebasten,

when are you going to post the chart that facters in the expired Bush tax cuts? I'd like everyone to see it......

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Posted by ringtail on 11-04-2008 05:14 AM:

Re: Re: well??????????

quote:
Originally posted by davebastean
You don't need to do research but keep asking questions? Ok.

I have asked and will continue. Ok? when are u going to answer them?

quote:
Originally posted by davebastean
You asked what osama is doing..

I never asked u what osama was doing...... I asked knox (I intentially missed it because he continuely mis-spells McCain)...... since u answered for knox, are u knox? is knox one of ur aliases?

quote:
Originally posted by davebastean
.......if you don't like President Obama you can vote him out in four.....

it is looking real good for obama, but he hasn't been elected yet.....

quote:
Originally posted by davebastean
......And no I'm not afraid of a democratic majority....

that wasn't the question and u know it.....

I never mentioned a democratic majority (we've been under one for two yrs)...... I said a filibuster proof majority and there is a difference, A BIG DIFFERENCE....

why are u avoiding the question? I think we all know the answer.....

quote:
Originally posted by davebastean
Can't be any worse than Bush and his six years of Republican rule.

Bush never had a filibuster proof republican majority.....

you keep talking research.... maybe you should do some yourself...

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Posted by Wingman66 on 11-04-2008 06:08 AM:

Dont you people not know gore got MORE votes than bush?? You tell me who the PEOPLE wanted?? Bush can thank his god his brother was gov of fla..

See what im saying davebastean? To this day, even though it is 8 whole years later, the people the republicans are still leading around on a leash think reagan set clinton up for good times. LMAO. Some folks will believe anything.

Ring... you can take my name off your list. I answered your question. His last name aint bush and he aint a republican. Thats good enough for me.

Obama doesnt scare me one bit. Not fond of him, but have enough sense not to believe the bs struggle the man has been through. He has been accused of any and everything, keep his mouth shut for the most part, and took it like a man. Despite all the retoric, despite taking all the best the republicans could come up with, he is STILL ahead in the polls and will probally win even bill (o really?) said so on his program today. You folks seem to think that the majority of obama supporters are stupid ignorant poor folks looking for a handout. You need to take a look at one of his rallies. I dont see all of skid row out there in the audience.

You can blame obamas (possible) win on any and everything you want to. You got one person to blame. GW Bush and his gang of outlaws that have raped the American people. If the dems ran a person every 8 years that say he/she was against abortion (even though they know it isnt one thing they could do just say it to make you feel better) and was a lifetime nra member, the republicans would never win another election period...

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Posted by liberalcreek on 11-04-2008 10:54 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Wingman66
Bush can thank his god his brother was gov of fla..[/QUPTE] Got proof, eh?? Can the same thanks you speak of possibly be the same Obama will have for Acorn?? 15 states under FBI investigation?? $800,000 in donations by Obama, 50,000,000 in earmarks for ACORN, by Obama. But I am sure, just like the other "strange associations" Obama has, this is purely coincidental as well. Geez, man.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wingman66
[B]reagan set clinton up for good times.

and the worlds leading economists agree. Only the Dem supporters wopnt accept the ecnomic facts, eh.

quote:
Originally posted by Wingman66
[B]
Obama doesnt scare me one bit. Not fond of him, but have enough sense not to believe the bs struggle the man has been through. He has been accused of any and everything, keep his mouth shut for the most part, and took it like a man. Despite all the retoric, despite taking all the best the republicans could come up with, he is STILL ahead in the polls and will probally win even bill (o really?) said so on his program today. You folks seem to think that the majority of obama supporters are stupid ignorant poor folks looking for a handout. You need to take a look at one of his rallies. I dont see all of skid row out there in the audience.

You can blame obamas (possible) win on any and everything you want to. You got one person to blame. GW Bush and his gang of outlaws that have raped the American people. If the dems ran a person every 8 years that say he/she was against abortion (even though they know it isnt one thing they could do just say it to make you feel better) and was a lifetime nra member, the republicans would never win another election period...

The rest of your post is proof that our founding fathers knew what they were saying when they said the Republic will fall within from people's greed and laziness to vote for someone who promises to line their pockets.

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Posted by tanner1979 on 11-04-2008 01:10 PM:

Obama has said many times that he is going to keep the bush tax cuts for the middle class but not the rich making over 250,000.

Posted by liberalcreek on 11-04-2008 01:11 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by tanner1979
Obama has said many times that he is going to keep the bush tax cuts for the middle class but not the rich making over 250,000.

Sorry, that is not what he said, eh.

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Posted by john nannemann on 11-04-2008 01:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by liberalcreek
and the worlds leading economists agree. Only the Dem supporters wopnt accept the ecnomic facts, eh.

The rest of your post is proof that our founding fathers knew what they were saying when they said the Republic will fall within from people's greed and laziness to vote for someone who promises to line their pockets.

yes!!! the politics of covetry. 50% now want YOUR stuff. they can take it but they can't make me like it.

Posted by davebastean on 11-04-2008 02:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by rance56
you better learn your facts alitte better. he had him in his sights, but he took his eye of the target becuase he was too busy worrying about an inter and a cigar.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/htmlCont.../21/wemb21.html

and isnt is hussien messiah obama that stated with permission or not he would hunt down bin laden into pakistan? you folks are a joke. so uniformed its said, until stupid people are not allowed to vote in this country we will comtinue to be in trouble

The article you provided says that Clinton ordered a missile strike hoping to get bin ladens network. It says nothing about bin laden being in his sights and failing to strike. It also said that Newt Gingrich was in complete agreement with him on this. Did you read the article?

Posted by tanner1979 on 11-04-2008 02:17 PM:

liberalcreek, yes he has said it many times. You will say anything to get people to think as you do. That will not work with me. I am not a Obama or McCain fan but I do take the time to check the facts. You should start doing the same. We should all check things out before we belive what is posted on this web sight as there have been so many lies it is not funny. I for one will be glad when this thing is over.

Posted by Wingman66 on 11-04-2008 02:25 PM:

The only people who lined my pockets is from the two jobs I work wipe...eh?

Posted by GideonHenry on 11-04-2008 04:12 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Wingman66
Dont you people not know gore got MORE votes than bush?? You tell me who the PEOPLE wanted?? Bush can thank his god his brother was gov of fla..

See what im saying davebastean? To this day, even though it is 8 whole years later, the people the republicans are still leading around on a leash think reagan set clinton up for good times. LMAO. Some folks will believe anything.

Ring... you can take my name off your list. I answered your question. His last name aint bush and he aint a republican. Thats good enough for me.

Obama doesnt scare me one bit. Not fond of him, but have enough sense not to believe the bs struggle the man has been through. He has been accused of any and everything, keep his mouth shut for the most part, and took it like a man. Despite all the retoric, despite taking all the best the republicans could come up with, he is STILL ahead in the polls and will probally win even bill (o really?) said so on his program today. You folks seem to think that the majority of obama supporters are stupid ignorant poor folks looking for a handout. You need to take a look at one of his rallies. I dont see all of skid row out there in the audience.

You can blame obamas (possible) win on any and everything you want to. You got one person to blame. GW Bush and his gang of outlaws that have raped the American people. If the dems ran a person every 8 years that say he/she was against abortion (even though they know it isnt one thing they could do just say it to make you feel better) and was a lifetime nra member, the republicans would never win another election period...

Wingnut, how is your wife doing? Fine I hope. With the trying to be nice out of the way I am tempted to say with this rant you must still be off your meds, but I won't.

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Posted by davebastean on 11-04-2008 06:50 PM:

NO matter who wins I wish all of you well. Good luck with your fine hounds!!

Posted by Knox on 11-04-2008 07:14 PM:

Same

quote:
Originally posted by davebastean
NO matter who wins I wish all of you well. Good luck with your fine hounds!!

Same goes here also............Tim

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Posted by Richard Nethery on 11-06-2008 12:58 AM:

On the Way to Cast My Ballot, I cussed, Swore, Grieved, Punched the Steering Wheel, and Dang it said I just cant do it.
I voted for John McCain.

A friend of mine, reminded me, that I was an adopted Child that Could have been Aborted. Guess Im not as Hard Core a Democrat as I thought I was. Sorry.

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Posted by Wingman66 on 11-06-2008 02:08 AM:

GH...the wife is fine. Thanks for your thoughts and prayers...

Posted by GideonHenry on 11-08-2008 07:41 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Wingman66
GH...the wife is fine. Thanks for your thoughts and prayers...

Your welcome. THAT IS IMPORTANT! A lot of this other stuff we wrestle with might be important to some extent, but nothing compared to our loved ones and their well being. And when it comes to the REAL important stuff we can be civil with each other. I will be keeping your family in my thoughts and hope things continue to go well for your wife. GOD Bless You Wingman.

Posted by MillsEnglish on 11-08-2008 01:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by rance56
if things we so great under clinton why didnt yall elect gore his VP for another 4 years and if things were so bad for the past 8 years why was bush in the white house for the past 4?

1 other question for the obama supporters, personally what have you done recently or currently doing to improve you skill sets and qualifications?

To your first statement in this Al Gore was supposed to be the first to try to take our guns. Thats why I didnt vote that way. And its been speculated Gore actually won the election.

To your 2nd statement thats much easier. Carey or bush in 2008 would still be bush in my book. I never did like carey. Bush's 1st 4 was quite a bit better than his last. He would be hard pressed to win another election if he had to run.

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